remi said:Second time in 5days our group had to logg due server being shit. May it be routers, corrupt data or whatever, so fucking tired of it.
Please fucking deal with the servers, GOA?
bottler said:we need classic asap new hardware
chretien said:For me it looks like the internet is b0rked.
Latency isn't too bad but there's a lot of random packet loss on the way to the servers.
I take it everyone who's whining about lag is already running a pingplot? Otherwise you're not going to achieve anything from whining if the problem isn't with the server.
That's how the internet works. 'Pretty much everyone' is probably going through the same bunch of routers from the international backbone to the Goa server farm. If one of those has a problem or is under a lot of load then 'pretty much everyone' will get lag and LDs. All of that can happen without there needing to be any problem at Goa's end. From the data I've collected it looks like there's a lot of random packet loss in some big FT routers in France. Could be they arent talking nicely to my ISP, could be they are being hammered by something. I don't know and I'd guess only the techs responsible for that part of the Internet could tell you. Not Goa or anyone else connected to them.Puppet said:Same story as always, mass-LD's and mass lagspikes for pretty much everyone and peeps gonna blaim it on random-router near Mexico instead @ GOA servers?
Gamah said:Whats the problem this time, aliens abducted a router? Baguette fallen in a server fan? Monkeys wanking in the server room?
Just one problem after another these days.
Gear said:Amazing, it's like facing aoe stun in every fight and there's no immunity for it ^^
Requiel said:The lag you are getting is not coming from the servers or our network. Once again, it's problems in the general internet. If you want it to be sorted then get pingplotting and either send us the details or hassle your ISP with them.
Before I get the inevitable 'well I spoke to my ISP and they say there's no problems with my line' or 'I have 100MB internet and so it can't be a problem with my ISP' responses I'll clarify this. It's not a problem with your ISP. If you call your ISP and report lag they'll check the latency from your house to their servers and declare that everything is fine. The problem is the routing from your ISP to our network - which your ISP is also responsible for. If you contact your ISP you will have to explain this to them and most likely provide them with additional evidence in the form of pingplots.
There is a very limited amount that we can do about this problem. We can collect information and pass it on to whichever company is responsible for the router(s) causing the problem. Your ISP can also escalate consumer complaints and to be honest they are likely to have much more luck with that than we are.
Requiel said:Before I get the inevitable 'well I spoke to my ISP and they say there's no problems with my line' or 'I have 100MB internet and so it can't be a problem with my ISP' responses I'll clarify this. It's not a problem with your ISP. If you call your ISP and report lag they'll check the latency from your house to their servers and declare that everything is fine. The problem is the routing from your ISP to our network - which your ISP is also responsible for. If you contact your ISP you will have to explain this to them and most likely provide them with additional evidence in the form of pingplots.
There is a very limited amount that we can do about this problem. We can collect information and pass it on to whichever company is responsible for the router(s) causing the problem. Your ISP can also escalate consumer complaints and to be honest they are likely to have much more luck with that than we are.
Your ISP isn't causing the lag. As you can see it's affecting people from all over Europe - except those connecting from France. Let me explain again how the internet works.Requiel said:I'll clarify this. It's not a problem with your ISP.
Requiel said:Routing is the responsibility of your ISP - even though they aren't directly responsible for the hubs that are causing problems. There are escalation agreements in place between backbone providers and ISPs so that ISPs can escalate reports of routing problems and expect to get them fixed fairly quickly.
Requiel said:Service providers (like us) don't. We can report it to whoever is responsible, but they won't be obliged to do anything about it.
1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms BLAH BLAH
2 2 ms 1 ms 1 ms BLAH BLAH
3 3 ms 3 ms 3 ms lutn-lam-2-s517-0.inet.ntl.com [62.252.92.177]
4 4 ms 3 ms 5 ms lutn-t2core-a-pos411.inet.ntl.com [62.252.64.181]
5 9 ms 19 ms 10 ms pop-bb-a-so-300-0.inet.ntl.com [62.253.188.185]
6 6 ms 6 ms 6 ms win-bb-b-so-500-0.inet.ntl.com [62.253.185.202]
7 17 ms 17 ms 17 ms po4-0.brsbb1.Bristol.opentransit.net [193.251.254.145]
8 17 ms 17 ms 17 ms po8-0.loncr3.London.opentransit.net [193.251.243.37]
9 17 ms 17 ms 17 ms po7-0.pascr3.Paris.opentransit.net [193.251.242.17]
10 17 ms 17 ms 17 ms po9-0.pascr1.Paris.opentransit.net [193.251.129.61]
11 18 ms 17 ms 18 ms wanadooportails-1.GW.opentransit.net [193.251.251.54]
12 18 ms 19 ms 18 ms 193.252.122.14
13 19 ms 19 ms 18 ms 193.252.123.177
Trace complete.
Thorwyn[B&Q] said:There we go again. Nobody is responsible and everybody is pointing at someone else. GoA says "Our network is fine", my ISP says "Your connection is fine", OT says "Dón´t fuquing bóthere ús with la emailez, or we will fuquing blóquez your IP".
Took month to solve the last lag-session. Any bets how long it´s gonna take this time?