10 Reasons why sbs/assassins are finished for now.

Glottis

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Thank you Jox!
For cheering up my day! I love it! I love you bitching!
Oh, payback is a bitch...
I do honestly hope that Mythic changes the way the game works for assasins, and I really hope they do it in about the same timeframe they needed when "fixing" something retarded like SH...
And I find it even more funny that you bitch about MoS while SH was 20 times worse.
Regards, Glottis :m00:
 

Phule_Gubben

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lathoniel said:
WHINGE U FEKKERS LIKE U NEVER WHINGED BEFORE!!!!!!!! i hope u get ur balance, jus like i had to wait a year for it, heres to the next 300+ days. Cry me a River you slags. i fking h8 u lot, ur such whingers, the only thing thats changed around here is that i see u same time as u see me. and in the past u called me a fking wall leacher and an adder(but i never moaned about it, ever!), well come fking get some u fking piece of shit crying lesbions, (xcept the ones that had nice stuff to say about me, like varg and sala, who rock). i hope u quit. cos lets face it. its too hard for u now u dont have scouts to pick on aint it. u whinging gits. and to think u had this seehidden for a year and could see us far further than mos5. and ur whinging about it. whinge whinge whinge. whinging *&%&*.

and yup, u SB are as crap as i allways suspected, no PA CD= crap. crap crap crap.

seriously tho guys, adapt. archers had to, itll come round in the end, stick it out. dont leave, i need my buzz....... whingers!

soz if i offend anyone thats just 1 year of hell, completely off my chest, i have no more to say.

R O F L............

:m00:
 

Runolas

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-Freezingwiz- said:
Sojoner ML 10 hmmm
Mass Gateway ;p guess u are talking about FZ ;p (ML8)

Incase you did get what I meant Archers with high finnished ML's ei. 8-10 not the particular ML 10ability, but ML8 and ML9 ability.
 

Runolas

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Matmardigan said:
4th: Nobody is forcing u 2 play this game. If u dont like it because of inbalancing play something else.

Cut the fucking crap - I've never said a word about quitting this game cuz of imbalance. The day I stop playing will be the day all my friends have left and not cuz of getting pwned by a wanker like you. I don't get worked up about it when I play, I die I /rel and come back, but still entitled to say what I feel.

If you cannot see that archers needs to be toned down then I guess your blind.
 

Danya

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echekiel said:
ur healer got FZ no need to complain aboout this :)
ppl always complain about what they dont have i thing goa need to do 1class in each realm to see how player play really :)
FZ does need a nerf though. 2 minute timer on such a powerful ability is just madness.
 

StonyPony

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Don't get me wrong, in my eyes you are one of the good guys as i met you solo alot recenlty.
Jox said:
1. Frontier is all about range, it couldnt get better for snipers than this.
2. The way MoS works; Snipers with MoS > Assassins with MoS.
3. All snipers got free getaway-cards while sbs got Shadowstrike :/
4. FZ.
5. Its way too many snipers around, attack one, get attacked by 5.
6. The loss of MoA, DR and RoF.
7. Climb-points are too few and too hard to find(especially in drunk-mode).
8. Towers have no climb-points :p
9. TS-guards.
10. Hysterical guards everywhere.
1) True.
2) You get what you spec for. xcept, we got camou you got more base detection range.
3) Vanish
4) Mezz Poison.
5) Macmep/Feinar/kenwolf.
6) Loss of mastery of archery.
7) I've never had the ability to climb anyway, at least you can at a few points.(I seen numerous sb/ns kill people inside keeps and get away with it)
8)the :p you wrote yourself makes this sound like sarcasm, which i hope it is, coz take a look at paradoxx and his javelins....
9) Same for scouts.
10) Stay away from them, they don't go out of the keep/tower range much anyway, and you are dumb if you attack when they are close.
 

vintervargen

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Jox said:

hhehheahaehaehaehaehaehhaehehaehaehhhae hehaehaehaehaehaehhae haehaeahehaehaea hehaehaehaehae haehhaehaehaehae haehaehaehae haehaehae haehaehaehaehae haehaehaehaehae haehaehaehaehaehae haehaehae haehaehaehae haehaehaehae haehaehaehaehaehhaehaehae haehaehae

did you have SH pre-nf? ofc you had. fuck you.

hahahhahaha hahahahaha hahahahahahahaha hahahahahaha hahahahaha ahhaha hahaha hahahahahahaha hahahahahahaha hahahaha hahaha hahahahahahahaha hahahaha
 

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Runolas said:
...and not cuz of getting pwned by a wanker like you. I don't get worked up about it when I play, I die I /rel and come back...

do it 1 year, maybe ull know how Archers felt the last 2 years.
 

Light

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lathoniel said:
WHINGE U FEKKERS LIKE U NEVER WHINGED BEFORE!!!!!!!! i hope u get ur balance, jus like i had to wait a year for it, heres to the next 300+ days. Cry me a River you slags. i fking h8 u lot, ur such whingers, the only thing thats changed around here is that i see u same time as u see me. and in the past u called me a fking wall leacher and an adder(but i never moaned about it, ever!), well come fking get some u fking piece of shit crying lesbions, (xcept the ones that had nice stuff to say about me, like varg and sala, who rock). i hope u quit. cos lets face it. its too hard for u now u dont have scouts to pick on aint it. u whinging gits. and to think u had this seehidden for a year and could see us far further than mos5. and ur whinging about it. whinge whinge whinge. whinging *&%&*.

and yup, u SB are as crap as i allways suspected, no PA CD= crap. crap crap crap.

seriously tho guys, adapt. archers had to, itll come round in the end, stick it out. dont leave, i need my buzz....... whingers!

soz if i offend anyone thats just 1 year of hell, completely off my chest, i have no more to say.

roflmao!

classic comeback :)
 

[e]

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No point in trying to balance this game or to make a point. You retards can't see past your own dicks. So tables turn from one great imbalance to another and that makes it FAIR? Please.

It's come to that I can't loose to a solo SB at all. Even if they are a duo if I can't win I sure as hell wont loose - if I don't want to. And listen all you "think-I'm-Skilled" peeps. It has NOTHING to do with that I play well or am skilled/better. ANY scout with proper RR/ML can do it, everytime. This is fucking insane and offer absolutely no challenge. What is the point to play this game when you know you can't loose to a certain class, or that you WILL almost always loose to a certain class etc etc. The charm in a good balanced game would be the feeling that the fight might go either way vs any class, that when you win it's actually that you did something right, not like now - to win is rutine, to loose is what.....you where afk, asleep?

I bet if somebody have a nostramo you could make 2 macros... Call one: I-WIN-IF-THEY-RUN the second I-WIN-IF-THEY-COME that way you only push one button and win either way when you see another stealther with MoSx.

Very skillfully fucked by Mythic, says alot about the average IQ lvl in the company. And this is not a scout problem only. More then one class needs to be adjusted.
 

Marczje

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lol :p

and indeed, assasins that have had sh shouldn't bitch about mos :p
 

Kinad

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Slam, Shield trip, FZ, MoS5, snare/debuff preped weapons, purge + ip and a scout is 99 % unbeatable 1on1 for an assasin. They might vanish but only once :)

Ofc most alb scouts are shitty noobs, even the high rr's ones, who sit most of their day looking at 1350 slash ws pondering on a way to beat a SB in straight melee.
 

[e]

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Marczje said:
lol :p

and indeed, assasins that have had sh shouldn't bitch about mos :p

Don't know if ppl got this, but 1) my main is a scout and 2) it's not about what skill/abilities xxx-class HAD to justify punishment NOW.
The point is, it should be fair (or very close to) for all ALWAYS.
Tbh, Daoc is a great game with the best PvP system to date. From my point of view It's so damn easy now to make the small changes necessary over the board, that would make it perfect, but it's not happening (!?).
 

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remove relics, decrease all stuns to max 4 sec, FZ on 10-15min timer, make envenom poisons only work if the first style is a successful 'from stealth' attack.
 

Radix

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People saying assassins should try it for year or 2?
the way mythic does things it would probably be more than year before assassins got little boost from current abuse.
I guess thats why I know I should find a new game.

After atlantis archers was a challenge to assassins without zephyr (dead assassins if zephyr), after NF its just silly.

you cant really appriciate assassins weak points without real experience, and Im sure a lot of non-assassins still believe perf is "raw powar".
 

Jpeg[LOD]

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Jox said:
1. i Disagree im having tons of fun on my friar. whome i either solo with or join gg's.... in keep raids yes range is a major advantage, but it aint "the be all and end all"
2. i disagree.. i tried the highest level on my scout , yes it was really nicebeing able to see all stealthers before they saw me ... but your acting as tho u think the range is enormous. when in fact it isnt. the melee a sb has should have np sprinting to a scout who shot him from MOS and then pwn him in melee.
3. doesnt make scouts op'd ... just means they dont get there asses handed to them as often , you do realise scouts cant attack at all once they use shield slam right? and thats if they are rr5.handed to em as often. o and u have Vanish whsh IS a pain in the ass. the amount of assasins have been giving a damn good beating to and they vanish just as about to die is annoying!
4. healers have FZ also .. in 8v8 fights its just as much pain in the ass as 1v1
5. learn where to camp... i run solo on my friar often now and sometimes i can run around for a good 30mins and not see any enemys at all and i do meet up with a good few soloer's or duo's . if u goto towers and keeps. then u should expect to get used as a pin cushion.
6. /no care ... all classes lost something. and gained something elsewhere.
7. i agree with ya here
8. as above
9. pain in ass. but there range is VERY limited.. not as if they are hard to avoid.
10. as above :)


<diaclaimer> i hardly play my scout in NF cos its kinda boring :)
 

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lathoniel said:
WHINGE U FEKKERS LIKE U NEVER WHINGED BEFORE!!!!!!!! i hope u get ur balance, jus like i had to wait a year for it, heres to the next 300+ days. Cry me a River you slags. i fking h8 u lot, ur such whingers, the only thing thats changed around here is that i see u same time as u see me. and in the past u called me a fking wall leacher and an adder(but i never moaned about it, ever!), well come fking get some u fking piece of shit crying lesbions, (xcept the ones that had nice stuff to say about me, like varg and sala, who rock). i hope u quit. cos lets face it. its too hard for u now u dont have scouts to pick on aint it. u whinging gits. and to think u had this seehidden for a year and could see us far further than mos5. and ur whinging about it. whinge whinge whinge. whinging *&%&*.

and yup, u SB are as crap as i allways suspected, no PA CD= crap. crap crap crap.

seriously tho guys, adapt. archers had to, itll come round in the end, stick it out. dont leave, i need my buzz....... whingers!

soz if i offend anyone thats just 1 year of hell, completely off my chest, i have no more to say.

Moron. All you have ever waited for is TS. :touch:
 

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Jox said:
5. Its way too many snipers around, attack one, get attacked by 5.

Can easily say the same for assassins of all realms too.

Sucks doesn't it? But at least they don't run off with Vanish soon as a fight looks a bit to tough for them.
 

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Jayce said:
1 patch assassins rock snipers suck and the very next patch assassins suck and snipers rock, erm balance ?
welcome to the mythic see-saw :twak:
 

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assasins have the best get out of jail card going, vanish, they can attack any enemy without fear of getting killed, if its going bad for them, poof, they are gone again.
 

Jox

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There are some nice snipers, like [e] who understand what I am talking about, but the rest seems to think we deserves it; after all, we had See Hidden with 1500 in range and overpowered leftaxe during 3-4 patches out of 30+.

Read the bible for crying out loud, you cant justify one error with another :p !

I do not blame a group of players, like albs, or rangers, or Socialdemokraterna, all I said was that Mythics message is clear; accept it, reroll or quit.

Lets face it; This game has always been broken and it always will be.

прощай
 

Danya

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Jpeg said:
doesnt make scouts op'd ... just means they dont get there asses handed to them as often , you do realise scouts cant attack at all once they use shield slam right? and thats if they are rr5
Purge the no attack effect, FZ, shoot the assassin down.
 

Xajorkith

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Umm not all archers are made equal, a Hunter < Soj 8 is still easy pickings.

Infils have no problem killing me, they evade almost everything I throw at them.....

Do infils and NS feel hunters and rangers are uber?
 

Solarius

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Nice to see that once again Revenge!!11!0 takes precidence over balance.

I've come to expect that over on the VNBoards, where the US concept of win at all costs exists, but I'm ashamed to see that sentiment is here also. What happened to the concepts of fair play?

I'd be happy if they made FZ so that someone trapped in the effect was immune to attack (and the same done to Grappled players), this would at least mean that, once in a FZ the player didn't feel that they may as well just type /release. It would be a start at least.
 

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