1 Day ml1 to 8 sunday 25th june (a real ML rush)[E]

[thergador]

Missed credit for 2.9, will you do this one again soon?

And thx for a great raid btw

ill post a soultion for one night this week

 

[Midnightangel]

Ok i really dont know why ppl are flaming zeus, 2.9 was bugged credit so we did it twice and zeus has offered to do it again for ppl who still didnt get it, some ppl didnt get bg credit for some steps, it was my job to grant credits wheni have 30-40 ppl pming me i try to get through as many before the timer goes, sorry if i didnt get to you i just did them in order i got the pms, myself and zeus know how to run raids and have been for a long time, ok i got stressed with ppl but i was feeling shit as i was full of cold aswell. It seems a couple of ppl who werent happy have come on here to flame but there were a lot of ppl who were happy and got what they came for, if you dont like our raids then dont come anymore simple as, doesnt bother us at all. For a 10hour day of mls with up to 200ppl i think we did really well and handled things really well, ok we got stressed when we were getting the same questions over and over in bg as ppl werent reading properly, and some ppl didnt listen and things went wrong, steps were bugged but we switched servers and redid steps for ppl but the majority of ppl who came today were happy.

 

[Jordiex]

I have been on raids with midnight before and no issues there. I i dont think ppl were blaiming him at all.
so 2.9 was bugged no blaim is bieing given there to any1 either.,
The issue is Zeus' attitude towards his fellow players and the lack of espect he shows them. I dont believe he has the qualifications he claim, as lag has very little to do with the pc, that he keep claiming.

if you have a lag issue and post a right now they send you ping plotter to trace where the issue is along the network.

I am also sorry that he is ignoring the posts where I have asked him questions to statments he has made. i now feal he is either unable to answer these as he has no idea what he is saying.

The points i have made regarding his leadership aye not all from me, but other players as well.
The title of this thread is incorrect as the only true word in it is rush.

It has been commented that as ML2 took soo long he started to rush the rest. to the extent he ingored requests for credit and wait for ld ers and dead.
I hope he achieved ml8 as he will be one of the eew that did.

I am also aware that he requested people to post on this thread against me in BG as I had a friends still in the bg. I of whom was worried as quote"they are saying nasty things about you".

I did try to rejoin the bg long before the lotto, but was unable to join(wonders why) as i had pmed him.

I asked if he had a problem as i had heard what he was saying in bg and he replyed no it was I that had the problem. and continued to say that i had lost my dummy and fallen out of my pram.?
I then started getting silly pms from othe excal players (why only excal playesr>?) who i will name as I have recorded this information.

I would still like Zeuspally to answer my questions regarding what he thinks the basic system for running DAOC is. and the spec of pc needed to run in 1 of "his" raids of 200 ppl. (which is causing a lot of lag) which again for Zeuspally information is caused by congestion over the network (reduced bandwith) mythic can handle at 1 time. but then again he has a degree in this so should know the basics at least about packet loss.

 

[Skaven]

I have been on raids with midnight before and no issues there. I i dont think ppl were blaiming him at all.
so 2.9 was bugged no blaim is bieing given there to any1 either.,
The issue is Zeus' attitude towards his fellow players and the lack of espect he shows them. I dont believe he has the qualifications he claim, as lag has very little to do with the pc, that he keep claiming.

if you have a lag issue and post a right now they send you ping plotter to trace where the issue is along the network.

You do realise generally that lag is quite a broad term. It can be generally fps lag, or as your proberbly describing network lag. One of them you can fix by upgrading your computer, the other by changing your isp or being routed through to daoc's servers diffrently.

And yes, if you wish to know my qualifications i'll gladly pm you them.

 

[Golena]

if any one can tell what else i need to do to raise my game then fair enough

Looking through the other comments on the thread i'd say the first thing to do is remember that while leading raids is stressful attending laggy raids where you are in danger of going LD in the hope of getting the credit you need can also be stressful.
It's very easy to lose your head with 20 people spamming for credit, especially if you think the raids running late. Often simply being sympathetic towards people goes along way, if someone's spamming or getting on your nerves, simply take the piss out of them in front of everyone. Having the fact they are being an idiot pointed out very obviously in front of everyone normally silences them for a bit. Just make sure you do it in a fun way. The second you get pissed off with the zerg, there's going to be trouble.

As raid leader your the person who should try to stay calm and know what's going on. My first tip would be to scrap the CG system that seems to of been implemented recently. It's frankly a terrible idea. Leave the BG open and let people talk in it. That way when you need to get a point across you can lock it and everyone can see what your writing.. it's a fast way to silence the zerg when you need to regain control. Having a CG, you have no way of stopping the spam during difficult times, and it brings absolutely no benefit.

Other than that just remember that doing 8 ML's your going to encounter at least one issue. Never plan timescales assuming everything is going to go perfectly to plan.. I notice from your initial post you allowed 30 mins for ml2? While I agree that it's perfectly possible to do ML2 in 30 mins if your well organised, i'd never rely on it happening that fast for the days timescale. If the first LD that happens puts you behind schedule then your always going to be rushing to catch up, which isn't good for a relaxed raid. If your going to be spending 8 hours raiding, people should be having fun, not rushing to keep up all the time.

Alb needs good raid leaders atm so I hope you stick with it and keep running them tho. I've always said, and always will say that the only ability a raid leader needs is to look at stuff that went wrong and improve it for next time, which you seem to be doing.

 

[thergador]

I have been on raids with midnight before and no issues there. I i dont think ppl were blaiming him at all.
so 2.9 was bugged no blaim is bieing given there to any1 either.,
The issue is Zeus' attitude towards his fellow players and the lack of espect he shows them. I dont believe he has the qualifications he claim, as lag has very little to do with the pc, that he keep claiming.

if you have a lag issue and post a right now they send you ping plotter to trace where the issue is along the network.

I am also sorry that he is ignoring the posts where I have asked him questions to statments he has made. i now feal he is either unable to answer these as he has no idea what he is saying.

The points i have made regarding his leadership aye not all from me, but other players as well.
The title of this thread is incorrect as the only true word in it is rush.

It has been commented that as ML2 took soo long he started to rush the rest. to the extent he ingored requests for credit and wait for ld ers and dead.
I hope he achieved ml8 as he will be one of the eew that did.

I am also aware that he requested people to post on this thread against me in BG as I had a friends still in the bg. I of whom was worried as quote"they are saying nasty things about you".

I did try to rejoin the bg long before the lotto, but was unable to join(wonders why) as i had pmed him.

I asked if he had a problem as i had heard what he was saying in bg and he replyed no it was I that had the problem. and continued to say that i had lost my dummy and fallen out of my pram.?
I then started getting silly pms from othe excal players (why only excal playesr>?) who i will name as I have recorded this information.

I would still like Zeuspally to answer my questions regarding what he thinks the basic system for running DAOC is. and the spec of pc needed to run in 1 of "his" raids of 200 ppl. (which is causing a lot of lag) which again for Zeuspally information is caused by congestion over the network (reduced bandwith) mythic can handle at 1 time. but then again he has a degree in this so should know the basics at least about packet loss.

1st piotn i said

oh and FPS lagg is due to your pc

if you have no problems with midnight then i suggest looking at your log as it was mid night that was granting credit not.

and yes i said peeps if you have enjoyed the raid plz say so on fh and give REP whats worng with ?

few that did ? 166 got ml8

i never request that any one say anything about you, why would i i dont know you i have not made any personal attacks against you, if you think calling you a noob is personal then i insulted my self as i ask for a cleric for the noob grp (mine) noobs this like what you have called me via pm and on fh

bg was set to private by pinkey on ml8.10 to stop randoms joining and lottoing

you ask do i have have a problem, i said no do you ?
then you start slaging me off yet again to which i said look just because you lost your dummy and its fallen out of your pram dont keep pming me

i told bg that you where still whine on fh and pming, they may or may not have pmed you one or two said thing in bg about you and asked what guild you where in
and finally

Frames per second is due to your system not being able to cope with displaying the images on your screen

packets loss due to the server would have casued us all to lagged

and tbh a trace route/ping ploter isnt going to help show anything when the lag is due to FPS lag which is what happens when you have a large numbers of players

min spec will i run on
two X 64 bit dual core 3.8ghz
ati x850
3 gig of cas2 (ultra low latancy)
i run this on unix emulating windows 64bit evoment

and i very rarely get lag i have a system which my BB runs on, which was lagging so i didnt take BB with us as i knew it would unstick due to FPS lag

oh and plz if you want look at my paper i had a white paper published last week
see links for my work belowe
1
2

some of my older work can be found on my old website here

so to summaries i really dont wanna drag my self to your level of flaming on FH m8 i have a life that goes beyond FH and what you are saying is utterly usless if it was constructive then maybe just maybe you might not get ignorred till i feel like answering when you got your self all upset.
really m8 get a grip we dont need to ever meet, speak agian. i do things my way, and you dont like it(you seem to trun that in to not like me personaly when you dont knwo me) so plz stop trying to drag this out we dont get on and wow it happens get over it

 

[thergador]

Looking through the other comments on the thread i'd say the first thing to do is remember that while leading raids is stressful attending laggy raids where you are in danger of going LD in the hope of getting the credit you need can also be stressful.
It's very easy to lose your head with 20 people spamming for credit, especially if you think the raids running late. Often simply being sympathetic towards people goes along way, if someone's spamming or getting on your nerves, simply take the piss out of them in front of everyone. Having the fact they are being an idiot pointed out very obviously in front of everyone normally silences them for a bit. Just make sure you do it in a fun way. The second you get pissed off with the zerg, there's going to be trouble.

As raid leader your the person who should try to stay calm and know what's going on. My first tip would be to scrap the CG system that seems to of been implemented recently. It's frankly a terrible idea. Leave the BG open and let people talk in it. That way when you need to get a point across you can lock it and everyone can see what your writing.. it's a fast way to silence the zerg when you need to regain control. Having a CG, you have no way of stopping the spam during difficult times, and it brings absolutely no benefit.

Other than that just remember that doing 8 ML's your going to encounter at least one issue. Never plan timescales assuming everything is going to go perfectly to plan.. I notice from your initial post you allowed 30 mins for ml2? While I agree that it's perfectly possible to do ML2 in 30 mins if your well organised, i'd never rely on it happening that fast for the days timescale. If the first LD that happens puts you behind schedule then your always going to be rushing to catch up, which isn't good for a relaxed raid. If your going to be spending 8 hours raiding, people should be having fun, not rushing to keep up all the time.

Alb needs good raid leaders atm so I hope you stick with it and keep running them tho. I've always said, and always will say that the only ability a raid leader needs is to look at stuff that went wrong and improve it for next time, which you seem to be doing.

cheers m8 points take

 

[eggy]

Closed thread at poster's request.

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