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But they already get emp as secondary stat...
But they already get emp as secondary stat...
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Mavl
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Originally posted by Belomar
For myself, I am unbelievably happy that Cabalists for ONCE get some undivided love their way (the DoT change patch affected all DoT casters). At last I am going to be able to start using my ruby simulacrum; too bad the LOS changes means I will never be able to start paying enchanters back for their nuking-and-snaring-pets-who-ignore-LOS (YES, before you ask, I was owned!).
And yes, I'm also happy that my dear minstrel will get some loving... Buffer of health sounds like pbt, only in an ablative shield version.
what dot change patch??
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Jiggs
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played on pend a bit and went up against some cabbies
the new simmy thing looks like its casting an ice dd, hit me for about 100 i think, didnt seem to proc any effect or anything tho
very nice for interupting opponents etc.
bonedancers still the number one caster class atm
the new simmy thing looks like its casting an ice dd, hit me for about 100 i think, didnt seem to proc any effect or anything tho
very nice for interupting opponents etc.
bonedancers still the number one caster class atm
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hotrat
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new sim? did they change the actual look of the sim as well?
What is the new damage of sapphire sim?
If you can compare it to this
http://www.cabalist.org/article.php?sid=31
would be great
What is the new damage of sapphire sim?
If you can compare it to this
http://www.cabalist.org/article.php?sid=31
would be great
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Well....
The big thing bards have is AE lull (forget instamez). Sorcs don't have instant AE amnesia. Giving them that would have helped a lot...but of course...there's also the Cloth factor.
Might not go live like the last cleric patch
The big thing bards have is AE lull (forget instamez). Sorcs don't have instant AE amnesia. Giving them that would have helped a lot...but of course...there's also the Cloth factor.
Might not go live like the last cleric patch
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Qte Eth
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hehe yeah now instames just sux and lets nerf insta lul
bard is a damn fun class to play,and soo overpowered
bard is a damn fun class to play,and soo overpowered
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Mavl
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Qte pls dont start the whining in this thread, it was quite whineless to this moment.
I understand u hibs want all and now, but pls create another thread to bitch about it.
edit spelling
I understand u hibs want all and now, but pls create another thread to bitch about it.
edit spelling
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Qte Eth
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am i not right in smth ?lol
its not a whine its a pure fact
its not a whine its a pure fact
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old.Nol
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Actually we don't want quickcast either.
http://www.bardsofcamelot.com the forums have links to every TL report.
Mythic gave us instamezz, from that day, bards have complained about it. In every TL report since, we have asked for it to be removed and be replaced by either a confusion that works on PC's not pets or amnesia that wipes a players target list(which would mean them having to click on you again, to get target - not a big overpowering thing imo), a pbaoe snare or one handed instrument so we can at least carry a shield.
Now you have your instawin on it's way combined with the fact that your mezzes land from further, for longer and the fact that our mezzes have been nerfed more. I would say Albion got some loving - large style, then you can once again start to pwn! us no-skills treehuggers.
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Mavl
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Overpowered compared to which realm? ^^
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old.Nol
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Originally posted by -Shaz-
Well....
The big thing bards have is AE lull (forget instamez). Sorcs don't have instant AE amnesia. Giving them that would have helped a lot...but of course...there's also the Cloth factor.
Might not go live like the last cleric patch
Mate, there is tons of stuff that sorceror's have that bards don't have either, so don't even go there. Sorceror's have got more then enough loving in the last 2 patches to make them a viable class again, both have been a stealth nerf to bards.
Lull interupts a caster, that's all it does, there is no negative effect whatsoever, it is not an amnesia spell in RvR only Pve, I would kill for it to be one.
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Mavl
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btw, amnesia clears your target in 1.59 afaik. So it has use in rvr ;p
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old.Nol
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yay, at last.
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wAaaaahahaAHaha Albs get 1 thing other realms dont get and it's already unfair
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some facts
That is wrong. Hibs also have QC ae mez or they do atleast have QC single mez. Don't forget mentalists they have mez they have nuke they have mana crack and heal over time.
but i have never seen any and i mean any mentalism mentalists.
they usually are light or mana mentalist. But mentalists Can have ae mez if i am not wrong.
Mids don't have any form for qc mez but they have instamez with skalds that lasts 29sec and have a timer on 30 sec. and that is single target also. healers have insta ae mez that lasts 10 or more sec they also have ae mez and they have ae stun but that is on cast time 2 or more sec. so i think it is even most of the places still the healers should get some loving imo.
Originally posted by Aussie-
wAaaaahahaAHaha Albs get 1 thing other realms dont get and it's already unfair
That is wrong. Hibs also have QC ae mez or they do atleast have QC single mez. Don't forget mentalists they have mez they have nuke they have mana crack and heal over time.
but i have never seen any and i mean any mentalism mentalists.
they usually are light or mana mentalist. But mentalists Can have ae mez if i am not wrong.
Mids don't have any form for qc mez but they have instamez with skalds that lasts 29sec and have a timer on 30 sec. and that is single target also. healers have insta ae mez that lasts 10 or more sec they also have ae mez and they have ae stun but that is on cast time 2 or more sec. so i think it is even most of the places still the healers should get some loving imo.
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Re: some facts
quote of the year
quote of the year
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Re: some facts
You're so wrong
Light eld have ae mez, but thats as crap as theurg ae mez
You're so wrong
Light eld have ae mez, but thats as crap as theurg ae mez
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It's hardly an "instawin". It still has to be cast. It can still be countered by amnesia. It will help only with fights in which Albs saw the Hibs from miles away.
Poor wittle bards...they'll have to find some new "tactic" other than steaming in at Mach 5, lulling and casting mezz at the same time. OH IT'S AWFUL!
Bards don't need QC, they need some kind of Skill button they can press in case it actually turns out all bards had fuck all to begin with.
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Rollie_David
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healers dont have insta amnesia
they need to make it so instas last longer if they implement this, as it stands my instas are very very short, giving you a 1:12min 400 radius mezz from outside the range i can cast any CC is a bit overpowering considering u can QC that every 30 seconds compared to my instas 10 min timer, if they made the duration and radius like an insta mezz i wouldnt mind but as it stands it will be the full mezz.
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Glottis_Xanadu
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Well, hardly a nerfbat to Bards, if one class is improved. They did not take anything away did they?
I still have doubts that the longer range weights up against the 206% speed and instant mezz that the bard has, as it takes about 3 seconds to get it targetted. Nice thing will be that a sorc can hang about behind the group a little, and mezz, instead of having to lead the group in order to get a mezz off.
But not happy yet, cause my scout is still gimped
Regards, Glottis
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Originally posted by dune
healers dont have amnesia
Yes we do.
Pac Baseline: 4 - Wake senseless : Single target Amnesia
Pac Baseline: 14, 24, 34, 44 - Wake Forgetful / Ignorant / Mindless / Oblivious : Ae Amnesia
I would be hoping that more of the healers in our realm knew what spells they have. ( You do know about Pac baseline: 23 - Remove Mezmerize, don't you? )
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read the post it says insta amnesia
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Belomar
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No, it didn't, not until you edited it after Whisperess had pointed this out.
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its not insta amnesia.. only use bards get from amnesia is to interrupt casters and such.. cos it is insta.. .. .
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that was edited before hand, when i posted it i realised i had made a typo and rectified it, after i had rectified it there was no other posts regarding it.
If you actually look belo you will realize that i have adjusted it and while whisperer goes off looking for the levels for the baseline healer amnesia. It was a simple mix up, i made a typo, i rectified it, whisperer tried to make a point about it and it happened at the same time as i rectified and you just had to jump in, Keep trying
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Forget instant amnesia...you have instant stun. That's even better. Guaranteed stoppage.
And as for the 400r 1m19s 1875r mezz...that's at 44 mind. Going 44+ mind means you get NO AoE root, NO spec nuke, NO decent resist debuffs, BAD variance on base lifetaps and so on and so forth.
Pac-specced healers still get usable base abilities such as buffs and heals. Sorcerers get...self-AF shield? Ooooh!
And hahaha at the "We don't have amnesia!". Tsk.
Point is, sorcerers are becoming less of the mangy mezzers they currently are and becoming a decent primary CC class.
At least, on Pendragon. ~rolls eyes~ The live patch will probably reduce mezz range to 1000 and replace QC with Trip.
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And as for the 400r 1m19s 1875r mezz...that's at 44 mind. Going 44+ mind means you get NO AoE root, NO spec nuke, NO decent resist debuffs, BAD variance on base lifetaps and so on and so forth.
Pac-specced healers still get usable base abilities such as buffs and heals. Sorcerers get...self-AF shield? Ooooh!
And hahaha at the "We don't have amnesia!". Tsk.
Point is, sorcerers are becoming less of the mangy mezzers they currently are and becoming a decent primary CC class.
At least, on Pendragon. ~rolls eyes~ The live patch will probably reduce mezz range to 1000 and replace QC with Trip.
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i know we get stun but unless you actually play a pac healer you wont understand how short it is, the last aoe insta stun is 300 radius and lasts currently for around 4 seconds, i rarely use the stun for offensive purposes now as it just isnt worth it, i only use my inasta if i have to otherwise i use the castable mezz for longer duration, if they let this go through without some enhancements to other realms/classes i can see patch 1.51 all over again but this time with albion, its nice to seee albs getting a few unique abilities but the mezz is a bit too much.
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old.Sko
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Re: some facts
2Qte:
2Qte:
See - you can have same tools. You just dont want to spec for them, because you want high killcount not support to your group. Well, obviously hib's intelligence is lacking
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Yeah, just as odd giving 2 realms insta-CC and the third none whatsoever.
Oh wait, we've been telling this story since a few patches and I was always told I am wrong. Stupid me...