1.4... well?

[old.Mr Crapini]

The play is different for those amongst us who could appreciate that the skill required for playing CS didn't only consist of accuracy, but also had a large lump of athletic ability thrown in there to stop people getting bored.

 

[old.D0LLySh33p]

Hmmm, the old Betas where running was so fast with your knife out it was like using Force speed or something...

I like CS 1.4 (heh, I already said it, indeed I spammed it last night I seem to remember on IRC).

The crosshair thingy is fun... I dunno if it actually works properly, but it gives me a warm feeling inside to know if I actually stop moving, crouch, line shot - fire... the crosshair is so small I "will" hit. My word, the deagle... bwahahaha, Jolt banned me last night as 'no-one an snipe with it and be human'...

Jumping. It agrees with me sometimes. I do jump when trying to get places fast, or if I get hit by an unseen attacker, but on the whole - I'll live with the absence of it I just won't play CT on Italy anymore

By the way, anyone else noticed how moving with mp5 and UMP seems to still let you have a degree of accuracy compared to moving with the heavier weapons...

/me foresees Jobbie pwnzin all now - CS has truly left Quake territory and joined erm, well, camping git with aim territory

 

[old.D0LLySh33p]

Bah, I just realised 'there' is one thing I don't like about 1.4.

That peeps can now watch me through first person.

They'll see how crap I really am...

And I mean, REALLLLLLLLLLY crap I am

(Heh, Jobs, I got coms enabled in game now m8y. You can listen to me ciggy/spliff induced hoarse S.E.London accent now )

 

[S-Gray]

lol banned you for snipin with a deagle..

 

[S-Gray]

OMG i had to pinch myself just, to make sure i wasnt using any cheats, the number of headshots i got just then on Italy was out of this world, i ended up beatin everyone 27-7, 26 where AK, and about mmm 15 where headshots some from hard angles..

 

[Stazbumpa]

Not got it yet, will have it tomorrow hopefully.

Then the Staz opinion will be known.

 

[Skyler]

Originally posted by 1Moon


I disagree and I think he's got just as much right to post his opinion here as any one else .

Erm, no he doesnt, because he spammed the fuck out of barrysworld IRC earlier on with his whinging.

If you dont like it, dont play it, dont spend 4hours telling everyone how much it sucks, because we dont care.

It is a definite improvement, the gameplay has slowed down a bit more again, it is now the slowest its ever been I'd say, and I think its fine.

As for the gimp that said bring back 5.2, go play 5.2 now and see how shit it is compared to what we have, it wont come back, never, its crap compared to what we have.

Back in its day it 0wned totally, and I 0wned it (avg of 60-70frags/30minmap).... But it has many bugs, and compared to the latest cs its crapp0r!

 

[Embattle]

To me it sounds they've tried to add a shit load of realism to CS, finally.

 

[Moving Target]

Made it worse ironically

 

[Will]

Originally posted by Skyler

Erm, no he doesnt...

You are probably getting bored with me commented on your posts Skyler, but I'm going to anyway.

This is a forum. People post here to air their opinions. One day, we may even have an informed debate, but until that day, I refuse to put up with petty flaming like that. Where do you get the right to decide who has the right to post what, or to attack them personally for venturing their opinions?

If he was to have never played it and be telling me how shit 1.4 was, I could understand you getting a little upset at him. But a CS player commenting on the update has as much right as you to post his opinion.

 

[lovedaddy]

So far, I HATES it. Can honestly say that this is the only time Ive disliked a new version. Taking out the jumping really dont agree with me. Seems to remove half the level, I mean, the boxes on Italy and Militia for starters.
UGH.... "hold on, we cannot launch our quality TF2 game whilst there is a massive cs scene. I've had an idea, buy cs and kill it with every version. Then! Dum dum dum, TF2, everything CS should have been"

 

[Moving Target]

Headshots are really common now, a la 1.1, which is a shame, and using jumping to climb boxes is really annoying as it slows down :/

 

[S-Gray]

Just come across the first Wallhacker on a Server (Barryserver), was watching thru his eyes as he traced this guy then shot him thru the wall.

Also got me a few times, and he had a score of 20-0 before he was kicked, but he kept comin back and too.

 

[old.Kurt_Angle]

Originally posted by lovedaddy
Dum dum dum, TF2, everything CS should have been"

Tf2 will no longer be what it should have been though.


It's just gona be another lame extension of what we allready got.

Not the radical realistic battlefield action sim that valve once promised, as shown in there now age old tf2 video clips.


Guess they figured that 'simple' is what appeals to the masses most.

Eg CS, with it's blast'um up choke points.

And TFC with it's mass spam appeal.

 

[Embattle]

Don't even mention TF2 as it's been floating for years and years now.

 

[Moving Target]

w00t just got 40-16 on cs_office

 

[S-Gray]

stop playing on the beginners servers then!! you have to quit it sometime!! lol

 

[Wilier]

Originally posted by throdgrain
You could always just shut up a bit

Heh, lol, nice one Throd, lol.

 

[Moving Target]

Originally posted by Super_Gray
stop playing on the beginners servers then!! you have to quit it sometime!! lol

Yeah well BW are n00b servers :/

 

[S-Gray]

Sometimes.. its good when i come top of the table by miles (for me) but i like a bit of competition now, where i may come 2nd/3rd that gives me a good game.

altho i wont use Jolt servers coz everytime i always get my arse kicked...

 

[Moving Target]

BW are n00b servers!

 

[Moön]

TFC ones are because of BW's lack of flexibilty and comunication with the TFC comunity .

TFC - Etiquette Server ************
16 Players
Friendly Fire ON
Map Rotation: Monkey_l, shutdown 2, Chimkey_l, Openfire_l, Stowaway_l, Bases2k1
Optional Maps: Stowaway 2, Insurrection_l, Oppose2k, Twilight_l, Shutdown_l, Roasted_l
Class Limits:
cr_sniper -1
cr_hwguy 1
cr_engineer 2
cr_demoman 2
cr_spy 3
cr_medic 4
cr_scout 4
cr_soldier 5
cr_pyro -1
mp_timelimit: 26 mins
prematch: 1.5 mins
Special Rules:
Do NOT spam messages or grenades
Do NOT midfield DM
Do NOT backtrack
Do NOT team kill
Do NOT hide the Flag or Key
Do NOT use inappropriate defensive classes
Do NOT be abusive to anyone
Do NOT excessively moan about other players
Do NOT use Aliases

Now thats what I call a server. gg wireplay

 

[old.Mr Crapini]

I played TFC yesterday and kept being accused of BTing, could this BTing be back tracking?? if so where is the crime??

 

[Moön]

Ok I know this is a CS thread but here goes

on a newb server anything goes .

League players have a gentlemens rule that in a match your offence dont attack enemy offence, this is because it results in a mid map death match and the team effort of offence and defence goes out the window .
This is backtracking (BTing). Offence dont attack offence if they have some respect for one another .

End of the day its boring to backtrack and no one scores, now on a public depending on what one some people may also take offence to backtracking and its always good to avoid doing it .

Most BW tfc servers however dont get used by many TFC league players and thus you shouldnt find people getting upset over backtracking .

On a public clan server I used to run I would give instant unwarned permanent bans for backtracking, the server become very popular with league players and was full every night I admined it, it run custom maps which helped clear out most of the newbs and I also had sniper removed. I quit the clan and now its dead

 

[Ch3tan]

Originally posted by 1Moon
Ok I know this is a CS thread but here goes

on a newb server anything goes .

League players have a gentlemens rule that in a match your offence dont attack enemy offence, this is because it results in a mid map death match and the team effort of offence and defence goes out the window .
This is backtracking (BTing). Offence dont attack offence if they have some respect for one another .

End of the day its boring to backtrack and no one scores, now on a public depending on what one some people may also take offence to backtracking and its always good to avoid doing it .

Most BW tfc servers however dont get used by many TFC league players and thus you shouldnt find people getting upset over backtracking .

On a public clan server I used to run I would give instant unwarned permanent bans for backtracking, the server become very popular with league players and was full every night I admined it, it run custom maps which helped clear out most of the newbs and I also had sniper removed. I quit the clan and now its dead

And I thought some CS players had a elitist attitude

 

[throdgrain]

Indeed that does appear to be a case of -noob-as-an-insult, rather than welcome-noob-to-our-burgeoning-ranks heh

 

[Moön]

There are plenty of newb servers but for league players it seems wireplay and clan servers are the only place worth while going due to BW's lack of understanding of the TFC comunity .

And on a clan server I can do what I feel is necassary to uphold its reputation, get one moaning newb in there he's banned for life, its common on any popular TFC clan server .

 

[Moön]

To add to that this is wireplays TFC comunity forum http://forums.wireplay.co.uk/forumdisplay.php3?s=&forumid=294

This is barrysworlds dead TFC cuminity forum http://forums.barrysworld.com/forumdisplay.php?s=&forumid=33

Its not hard to see why when wireplay set down rules like this:

Do NOT spam messages or grenades
Do NOT midfield DM
Do NOT backtrack
Do NOT team kill
Do NOT hide the Flag or Key
Do NOT use inappropriate defensive classes
Do NOT be abusive to anyone
Do NOT excessively moan about other players
Do NOT use Aliases

elitest maybe but thats what league players want and thats why they go else where .

 

[Ch3tan]

And thats why TFc won't attract enough new players.

 

[old.Kurt_Angle]

Originally posted by Ch3tan

And I thought some CS players had a elitist attitude

Wooohooo.


Somebody else outside the game has actually seen what goes on


It works like this:

Anything that gets in the way of Mr capper and is demmed to be an unfair or otherwise and is frowned on straight away, then word get around and it becomes part of tfc folklore as being one of the worst crimes known to man.

It doesn't matter if it's 100% effective in stoping them, it's just LAME

Tfc was a happier game before all the biggots that play it made there own sets of rules.


Personally i like the alais ruling, and the dm rulling. I was once kicked from a server because i was cleaning them up and they were all calling me an allais because of it.

Despite my saying that i hadn't used the same name twice in the last 3 years, i was roundly kicked and abused just because they belived i was somebody else.

The dm ruling allways makes me laugh too, the amount of times iv'e been acused of dm'ing just because iv'e been shot at on my way to the nme base, and chosen to shoot back, and the person iv'e droped (after he's attacked me first) has a clan handle on the front of his name, thus im the 'lame' one because i never have.