Impressed £67.5 billion... nope... 263 billion, and rising.

[Bodhi]

Full of shit as usual @Bodhi.

"WTO definition of subsidies, accepted by the UK and 163 other nations, includes government revenue that is otherwise due, foregone or not collected - such as reduced tax rates".

As I said, reframing the definition of subsidy to include tax breaks.

Or Newspeak as its otherwise known.

 

[Scouse]

As I said, reframing the definition of subsidy to include tax breaks.

Bullshit. It's the UK government reframing tax brakes as "not subsidies" after it already accepted the quite clear definition, along with most of the rest of the world.

And if this is all you've got to whine about, given the above, then it seems your barrel is not only empty but you've clearly scraped right through it.

 

[Scouse]

It's all kicking off about hidden subsidies for our nuclear defence programme through our energy bills.

It is clear that the costs of maintaining nuclear submarine capabilities are insupportable without parallel consumer-funded civil nuclear infrastructures

The accelerating competitiveness of renewable energy and declining viability of nuclear power are making this continuing dependency increasingly difficult to conceal

and, reiterating what's been said above:

t was once forecast that nuclear energy would be too cheap to meter. But it's clear now that bill-payers will give price support to the Hinkley Point C nuclear station at a cost of £92.50 per megawatt hour, compared with £55 for offshore wind.

Ministers expect that, before long, wind energy will operate without support.

Offshore delivering on promises, nuclear not so much.

 

[Job]

Well its not....because wind power is shit atm.
The renewable industry is the very poster boy of exaggeration and downright lies.

 

[Bodhi]

Bullshit. It's the UK government reframing tax brakes as "not subsidies" after it already accepted the quite clear definition, along with most of the rest of the world.

And if this is all you've got to whine about, given the above, then it seems your barrel is not only empty but you've clearly scraped right through it.

I've got plenty, but I know better than to get into in depth arguments with religious people.

 

[Job]

Though this is a good thing, people buying or even worse renting solar panels in a country thats classed as mostly cloudy.
Home solar panel installations fall by 94% as subsidies cut

It goes go to show they were only being fitted because of economics....or free money off the bill payer.
So many shysters making stupid amounts of money installing fucking useless solar panels.

I worked for a free boiler green deal company when I was training.
They got paid 6 grand for every installation.
700 quid boiler..100 quid parts and 400 to the installer.

The owner bought a yacht in the Med after 4 months.

 

[Job]

We are now at 415ppm in outside co2 levels.
At 1000ppm it affects the brain, causing measurable cognitive slowdown.
So we are approaching half of what it takes to slow down the entire human race.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/thinkp...ion-new-harvard-study-shows-2748e7378941/amp/

 

[caLLous]

It must be well over 1000 already where you are.

 

[Wij]

Tim Minchin comes out for nuclear


View: https://twitter.com/timminchin/status/1140596458036461569

 

[Job]

If we slip into an iceage after reducing co2...Ill be laughing from my igloo.

 

[Ormorof]

If we slip into an iceage after reducing co2...Ill be laughing from my igloo.

I dont know whether to laugh or cry, with enough Jobs we are all doomed

 

[Embattle]

If we slip into an iceage after reducing co2...Ill be laughing from my igloo.

Technically we are in an ice age.

 

[Job]

Yes..well Im old enough to remember the original panic that burning fossil fuels was going to turn back the climate..every news program has an item with pictures of a snow storm in the artic and chilling overvoice of.
London could look like this in 50 years if we dont reduce emissions.
Endless documentaries on iceages, comedians joking about eskimos in hyde park.
Apparently though we were all dreaming that and they knew it was actually warming....they were just trolling us.

 

[Job]

And the totally fucking obvious begins.
Next will be tax on electric car charging.


HMRC pushes steep VAT increase for new solar-battery systems

 

[Hawkwind]

Tim Minchin comes out for nuclear


View: https://twitter.com/timminchin/status/1140596458036461569

Didn't Greenpeace do that years ago?

 

[Job]

Well Duh..
Headlins should day 'A lot of'

Americans' plastic recycling is dumped in landfills, investigation shows

 

[Embattle]

Record-breaking concrete pour lays Hinkley Point base slab


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=306&v=pEF28GBuYVA



View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EvGhV82L2qE

 

[Job]

This is hilarious.

On 'Hottest Day in History of France,' World Told 'Do Not Look Away' as Police Tear-Gas Climate Campaigners in Paris

 

[Gwadien]

This is hilarious.

On 'Hottest Day in History of France,' World Told 'Do Not Look Away' as Police Tear-Gas Climate Campaigners in Paris

Why is it hilarious?

Does authoritarianism get you hard?

 

[Job]

Bitcoin's global energy use 'equals Switzerland'

 

[Job]

Heres a description of the compounds used to make car ev batteries..where they come from and will later cover the political and environmental consequences.
Its not biased at all.
And not being sarcastic

View: https://youtu.be/kGFiaWvD-KI

 

[Scouse]

Offshore wind is now at a record low price - dropping massively in the last two years.

Offering at £39/mwh.

 

[Job]

But..but.
Wind power is next to useless and nuclear provides a base load.

Without storage it is next to pointless...why does this get conveniently brushed over?

 

[Wij]

More wind power means more CCGT is needed as backup.

 

[Embattle]

World's largest wind turbines to be built off Yorkshire coast

 

[Job]

That is a step in the right direction by building a hub that can be shared.

 

[Scouse]

Thought it was fucking useless @Job?

They won't share the fucking wind.

 

[Job]

They are building a europe wide grid that can balance out the generation and make it useable.

 

[Scouse]

That's fuck all to do with that article - it's about a big fuck off wind farm off yorkshire @Job

 

[Job]

Theyre going to be part of the North sea super grid.