Zerk TL kicked out from his post after TL feedback

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old.mattshanes

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The only targets a slash merc can't hit hard are ns/rangers/bards/shamans/healers with capped slash resists......

I dont have aug str 2 sharma:p

Anyway grobirthir was hitting me decent damage about 200-270 mainhand no ratmode....you guys have no str relics too, not sure if the guy is high qui.The damage seems nerfed too much though yes :/

Zerk's damage is like my damage on mid healers xD(joke ;) )

Also by the way... amethyst SUCKS in rvr for those who keep saying it's good and it's slash style remember :p
 
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klavrynd

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not gonna read the entire post

continuous mid nerfs, alb and hib boosts and now this

don't you people see it ?


time for a new game imo
 
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kaine_1

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That t/l was a total idiot.

Any class that can 1-shot another class is overpowered.

All he had to do was present a reasonable argument about zerkers, and what -realistically- was needed to improve them....

He chose to cry about the dmg nerf and ask for it to be removed.

Comparing a Midgard light tank to an Albion or Hibernian light tank is also a little silly, as everyone bases the entire argument on 1 base ability, and forgets racial stats, realm buffs available, types of realm support classes available etc etc etc.

Mythic took a class that could 1 hit a caster, or 3 hit any other class and nerfed it........all I can say is look out Bonedancers, it may not happen today, it may not happen tomorrow.....but its coming trust me.
 
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Jenna.

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Originally posted by kaine_1


Any class that can 1-shot another class is overpowered.


Infils can also oneshot ppl fyi, nerf yourself.
 
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Solid

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Assuming the Damage nerf stays...

Why have Mythic not given Zerkers Shield spec and Flurry and why have they not removed the defence penalty from Vendo?

Those are the absolute minimum fixed the class deserves now to bring them level with BM/Mercs.

As everyone says, the damage is comparable (pre resists adn relics) so why do Mercs and BM's have more tricks up there sleeves?
 
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Damon_D

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Not only more tricks..but better tricks..on shorter timers...
 
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old.Hendrick

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Why have Mythic not given Zerkers Shield spec and Flurry and why have they not removed the defence penalty from Vendo?

There is absolutely no point in light tanks having shield spec. Beats the purpose of the class and certainly does not make it anymore interesting/better than it was before. And I speak from experience, having tried 50 shield on my merc. If you want that, roll an armsman/warrior.
 
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old.Hendrick

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Not only more tricks..but better tricks..on shorter timers...

Vendo, Triple Wield and Dirty Tricks are all on 7 minute timers now. Before the light tank changes, Mercs and BMs had to wait 30 minutes to use their special abilities again, Zerkers still having a 7 minute timer.
 
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Hyuga Hinata

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Originally posted by kaine_1
all I can say is look out Bonedancers, it may not happen today, it may not happen tomorrow.....but its coming trust me.

Especially since Mythic said BD Sup spec was fine as it is etc.

Think you should spend your time preparing to dodge the nerfbat instead of spouting random jibberish on the forums Infiltrator.
 
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kaine_1

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Originally posted by Hyuga Hinata
Especially since Mythic said BD Sup spec was fine as it is etc.

Think you should spend your time preparing to dodge the nerfbat instead of spouting random jibberish on the forums Infiltrator.

Perhaps suppresion line is fine, but perhaps it wasnt intended for 99% of BD's to walk round with 2 infinite power healers.

Perhaps Infils are overpowered, hell maybe even my rejuv cleric needs a nerf.

Im saying when one class consistantly tips the balance over a long period of time, its gonna get nerfed, no two ways about it.

You may not like it, but its a fact
 
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Jenna.

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Originally posted by kaine_1
Perhaps suppresion line is fine, but perhaps it wasnt intended for 99% of BD's to walk round with 2 infinite power healers.

Perhaps Infils are overpowered, hell maybe even my rejuv cleric needs a nerf.

Im saying when one class consistantly tips the balance over a long period of time, its gonna get nerfed, no two ways about it.

You may not like it, but its a fact

:mgwhore2: chanters :mgwhore:
 
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Hyuga Hinata

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Originally posted by Jenna.
:mgwhore2: chanters :mgwhore:

"Mana is very powerful spec and it's difficult to alter it's overpowered nature without fundamentally changing what the enchanter class has been for almost 2 years, which we definitely dislike doing for any class. The four things that really make mana enchanters overpowered is their powerful PBAE, effective baseline pet, baseline stun (affected by debuffs), and baseline DD (affected by debuffs). We're working on a way to address one of those four. We hope to narrow our changes here to one that affects the ability of enchanters to use their light based baseline DD with so much effectiveness despite being specced high in Mana. We'll announce the changes when we put them on Pendragon for testing."

This is what they said about the Chanters mana specline, and yet they had no problem "fundamentally changing" what the berserker had been in the last 2 years.

Hipocracy at it's best!
 
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uma_thurman

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Originally posted by Hyuga Hinata
Especially since Mythic said BD Sup spec was fine as it is etc.

Think you should spend your time preparing to dodge the nerfbat instead of spouting random jibberish on the forums Infiltrator.

Only a blind man or a fool would believe BDs are immune to changes. The BD will be nerfed, mark my words.
 
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Groborthir

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Originally posted by old.mattshanes

Anyway grobirthir was hitting me decent damage about 200-270 mainhand no ratmode....you guys have no str relics too, not sure if the guy is high qui.The damage seems nerfed too much though yes :/

I capped quickness since I'm basically a Prevent Flight-bot. :)
 
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Makwaerk

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the core to all this zerk whine is that we are a pointless class (yes yes qoute this and whine)

in what group setup would you but a zerker in? the answer is none you would pick a savage or a warrior insted EVERY time.

I am leveling a savage myself atm, being a former zerker.

NOW the thing the random albs whinerst need to get is, it is not about being overpowered.. really it is not, it is about doing your job, and as it is now you are making your group weeker by being a zerker and not a War/Sav
You might start to whine about savages now.. fine np with me here I will even agree with you, but it does not change the fact that zerkers preform suppair of our own realms fellow tanks, hence we are useless.
 
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Hyuga Hinata

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Originally posted by uma_thurman
The best of spelling too! :)


Forgive me for not having perfect english when I'm from norway Mr. Perfect.

Originally posted by uma_thurman

Only a blind man or a fool would believe BDs are immune to changes. The BD will be nerfed, mark my words.

You'd have to be equally blind to think that about Infiltrators aswell.
 
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denser

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Any merc or BM you ask does not have a problem with zerkers getting a shield specline. How many shield zerks would you see though? Two?
 
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faderullan

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Give shield to zerk. I wonder if that would make them whine less... Even give them teh uber flurry skill!
 
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klavrynd

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Originally posted by faderullan
Give shield to zerk. I wonder if that would make them whine less... Even give them teh uber flurry skill!

Giving shield to zerks is like giving utility to a wizard. You play for damage not fluff.

1.62 : levelled the stylebonus but forgot to level the unstyled damage
 
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mskin

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this must be a heavy burden to carry in these days of nuclear threats, cancer and wars
 
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Wij

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Originally posted by mskin
this must be a heavy burden to carry in these days of nuclear threats, cancer and wars

And sarcy morons.
 
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faderullan

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Originally posted by klavrynd
Giving shield to zerks is like giving utility to a wizard. You play for damage not fluff.

1.62 : levelled the stylebonus but forgot to level the unstyled damage

Mercs have it. You think we want it?
 
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old.mattshanes

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If they give us evade 3 yes, both weaps hit all the time and avoid pain sure.:p
 
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faderullan

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And a offensive special ability. Who needs DT in fg vs fg fights.
 
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old.mattshanes

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Yep been a broken class for a while now and people whine when we get loving.Also with evade 3 a merc who specs thrust can dragonfang more i doubt mids/hibs would want that after the whines about infs eh?xD
 

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