Zerk TL kicked out from his post after TL feedback

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old.Sko

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Originally posted by faderullan
Sorry but i cant feel sorry for a class that was to good earlier and when it gets balanced they all cry and say its gimped. Its understandable they all make savages, because who wanna play on even terms right...

tbh
dw styles use _far_ less endurance
they offer both side and back positonals with damage exceeding only backpos chain of zerks due to associated bleed effects (not by far but still)
thrust merc has both parry and evade long duration stuns
and dont forget about once in 15 minutes melee immunity =D
so equal terms eh ?
 
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Groborthir

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Well, I don't know about all of you, but I kinda like my zerker, even after the nerf.

I don't really give a flying **** about how he peforms in duels, like Fadeh, I care about how he performs in group vs. group stand-offs; in which situations most classes run away from me, allowing me to use our back positional combo, which to me seems to be dealing quite a lot of damage. And of course there's Prevent Flight, which is what is making me pull out my zerker from the closet! :)

Although I don't approve of Aurora Borealis being changed to come off Icy Brilliance with a seemingly lower growthrate than Icy and Snowsquall and proccing a useless cold proc ...

Alright, zerkers won't hit for 1000+ damage anymore (not like they ever had in other than very, very extreme and rare cases), and that's fine by me. I still hit for 600'ish damage on my zerker in frenzy, and that's by far enough when I'm hitting on supports and cloth wearers.

I like my zerker, and I don't feel like I'm gimped. Light tanks are supposed to have the highest dmg output in positional situations, and so far, for the zerker, that's true.

Just my flip of the coin.
 
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Jenna.

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Originally posted by faderullan
It isnt about zerker vs bm or zerker vs merc. Its all about the fg vs fg fights. Its about zerker vs support. And vendo is a good thing vs that. DT offers me slight to nothing in those kind of fights. I guess TW is good but so is vendo.

And to all zerkers who cry like babies. You poor things, it must be horrible to only be "balanced with other light tanks or even better". Mercenery even is considered fotm in albion. And dont come here say that mercenery outdamages a berserker. Maybe in duel but we talking about pure damage dealing on support and casters. Also a berserker can use those slow 2handers for the extreme frontload damage in assist groups.

If you dont get groups as berserker, then help the rest of the daoc community to nerf savages. That way you will get groups again as easy as mercenery get groups in a albion tank group.

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Sharma

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Originally posted by faderullan

And to all zerkers who cry like babies. You poor things, it must be horrible to only be "balanced with other light tanks or even better".

Yes ofc, Sycho hitting me for 400 mainhand and 100 offhand and me hitting back for 166 main hand and 50 offhand is balanced, he was swinging at the same speed as me also, go figure.
 
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Jenna.

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Originally posted by Sharma
Yes ofc, Sycho hitting me for 400 mainhand and 100 offhand and me hitting back for 166 main hand and 50 offhand is balanced, he was swinging at the same speed as me also, go figure.

DUH! You are supposed to hit casters and support! :rolleyes:
 
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old.Sko

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Originally posted by Sharma
Yes ofc, Sycho hitting me for 400 mainhand and 100 offhand and me hitting back for 166 main hand and 50 offhand is balanced, he was swinging at the same speed as me also, go figure.

dual shadows,chain armor, spec af buf, relic bonus vs. anytime style and studded armor TT
 
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faderullan

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Originally posted by Sharma
Yes ofc, Sycho hitting me for 400 mainhand and 100 offhand and me hitting back for 166 main hand and 50 offhand is balanced, he was swinging at the same speed as me also, go figure.

So in other words you say mercenery do 250% more dmg then a berserker. lol
 
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Jenna.

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Originally posted by faderullan
So in other words you say mercenery do 250% more dmg then a berserker. lol

"You poor things, it must be horrible to only be "balanced with other light tanks or even better"."

I agree, lol
 
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SilverHood

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my thane can beat zerkers of equal RR... he used to be abvle to beat those of lower RR, but now, they're just an annoyance... the poor little fluffy hamsters, left as roadkill on the emain highway

never stood a chance against a merc with IP though... hit me faster, and for more damage, than I can do back

And BM's... overpowered :p ... might as well sit down and die, rather than waste IP :D
 
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Rudor Dwarf

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Yeah duel dont say a s#¤t but that a merc hit faster and harder in a duel say a bit more!

Btw give more whine ^^..
 
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Damon_D

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IMHO the albion fools who say zerkers are fine should feek off and die
 
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ilum

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If you wanna prove a point, arrange some get-together in Hadrians or whatever.

3 Mercenaries
3 Berserkers
3 Blademasters
Each light tank brings a small group of a caster and a tank or something for the others to try on.

Try hitting them a few times and compare the dmg, different styles etc. Different spec Mercenaries, Berserkers and Blademasters, buffed and unbuffed etc.

Write down the damage and compare it.
 
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Xeanor

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Mid needs to be overpowered according to them.

That's why they whine about zerker damage now and all roll sagaves ^^
 
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not_here

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Duels means jack. I won sevarl times over SZ's with my 5 specc in pure melee. Why did they not nerf that?
 
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ashitaka

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Lets put it this way:

You were overpowered and living the happy days until latest patch. You got put in place, and this is the price you have to pay :) .. Can't handle the suffering - don't play the game, go feed some ducks in your local park with the cute old ladies instead. I mean it.
 
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Edlina

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Originally posted by Groborthir
Well, I don't know about all of you, but I kinda like my zerker, even after the nerf.

I don't really give a flying **** about how he peforms in duels, like Fadeh, I care about how he performs in group vs. group stand-offs; in which situations most classes run away from me, allowing me to use our back positional combo, which to me seems to be dealing quite a lot of damage. And of course there's Prevent Flight, which is what is making me pull out my zerker from the closet! :)

Although I don't approve of Aurora Borealis being changed to come off Icy Brilliance with a seemingly lower growthrate than Icy and Snowsquall and proccing a useless cold proc ...

Alright, zerkers won't hit for 1000+ damage anymore (not like they ever had in other than very, very extreme and rare cases), and that's fine by me. I still hit for 600'ish damage on my zerker in frenzy, and that's by far enough when I'm hitting on supports and cloth wearers.

I like my zerker, and I don't feel like I'm gimped. Light tanks are supposed to have the highest dmg output in positional situations, and so far, for the zerker, that's true.

Just my flip of the coin.

You find a clever post by a mid with a zerker, thinking you've finally found a clever mid, but then, looking in the sig there's that damned overpowered BD ^^^

Anyway, point is, you could learn smth from Groborthir whiners that say zerks hit for less than BM's / Merc's, which they don't, but before they hit for much more.

Oh, and about end if that's where you're going, LA might be costy in end, but Hib styles cost far more than alb/mid styles (reason hib was only realm with end regain for a long time) so QQ.
 
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faderullan

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quote:
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Originally posted by faderullan
Agree with edlina
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Thats one smart hib imo
 
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ilum

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Originally posted by Edlina
You find a clever post by a mid with a zerker, thinking you've finally found a clever mid, but then, looking in the sig there's that damned overpowered BD ^^^

Actually, seeing a player with both a 50 Berserker and a 50 Bonedancer preferring his Berserker in RvR is proof that Berserkers probably need another 30% nerf :D
 
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Jenkz

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Originally posted by Sharma
Yes ofc, Sycho hitting me for 400 mainhand and 100 offhand and me hitting back for 166 main hand and 50 offhand is balanced, he was swinging at the same speed as me also, go figure.

Sharma NotteScura <Maelstrom>: L50 Valkyn Berserker, RPs: 119,232 (42,657 last week)
Sycho WaitAndBleed <Forgotten Legends>: L50 Highlander Mercenary, RPs: 2,840,263 (71,401 last week)

- RR3, studded, valkyn, slash vs chain

- RR8, chain, highlander, slash vs studded

You really expect to beat a RR8 slashmerc one on one? Afaik slash Mercs used to beat zerkers pre 1.62 anyway.

I guess he was using AS-DS in slash line as well.. Which is not really comparible to LA
 
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Sharma

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the .5 extra dps at rr5 and aug str 2 will REALLY make him hit for like more than twice as much as i do on most swings :E
 
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Derric

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You roll a valkyn zerker and expect to hit hard? :p
 
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Dunmer

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Originally posted by ashitaka
To all berserkers: Fuck off you fucking sissy fucks, and stop crying. Did I mention you are all a bunch of sissy fuckers? You fucking sissy's.

Love, Albs.

Oh, this guy has a great vocabulary. You must be a REAL BAD GUY. :sleeping:
 
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Sharma

Guest
Originally posted by Derric
You roll a valkyn zerker and expect to hit hard? :p

i get hit in duels by troll zerks for 350 most of the time. T_T

i know duels are about luck, but that was a straight hit, so hardly any difference.
 
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old.Atrox

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Originally posted by Sharma
the .5 extra dps at rr5 and aug str 2 will REALLY make him hit for like more than twice as much as i do on most swings :E

0.3 dps, 2more AF ( on each armor part, and the chain abs makes the effective AF ever greater compaird to studded ), RA's and you got 10% penalty vs slash, Where as Alb chain is neutral.

I think thats where the big dmg diffrence is.
 
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old.tuppe

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well, if you say albs have poor cc, why not nerf other cc in albs so sorc is more wanted for his cc ability?

minstrell has uber speed comparing other classes in albs, why not nerf minstrell so he dont have that uber speed anymore?

lets see, if our only class what keep our head up on this game is savage/healer/shammy combo, nerf savage.
after that all classes are equal, fine.
lets see ra:s, what make mids equal here?

if dmg is same in all realms, why other realms need 1win ra:s like alb/hibs have now?
cc is pointless, so no idea give that crap, there is enough resists to get, purge, sos, group purges, det, unmezz spells.

what mids have after that?
bones? class what have 0 group ability, uber 1v1, but still all classes whit good ranged ability, like archers/bolts can kill them easily, st.

enchanter, wellknow overpowered class, and asnwer they get from mythic?
-you are overpowered but we dont wanna touch you because mythic as company NEVER nerf any class (clerics, archers, healers)
 
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tildson

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Haha, such QQ'ing :)

Hard to survive as a "normal" class?
 
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kalgarn

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Originally posted by tildson
Sofragile - Etheralist - Prydwen
Lurkburk - Master Ranger - Prydwen
Quadro - Fist of Kelgor - Excalibur
not even going to give a smart reply :D
 
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Damon_D

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Originally posted by ashitaka
Lets put it this way:

You were overpowered and living the happy days until latest patch. You got put in place, and this is the price you have to pay :) .. Can't handle the suffering - don't play the game, go feed some ducks in your local park with the cute old ladies instead. I mean it.


Kinda hard when your sexualy abusing both the duck's and the old ladies..lay of the crack pipe twat
 

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