zerg is the way ahead

[Balbor]

the idea of this game being realm vs realm is that everyone in your realm is on your side right! I'd like to see more large scale battles between. 1fg vs 1fg fights are ok but unless you have 1) speed and 2) CC you don't have a chance of wining. I'd like to see more large scale battles with more siege weapons being used. At the momment only rams and catapults (only at merchant keeps) are used. If people want small 1fg vs 1fg maybe they should play on a PvP server.

Zerg MGs camping is boring as it forces larger zergs to form, the frontier zones need to be changed so the 2 gates are in different zones. Its also takes too long for people to get to them in there own zone.

 

[trigali]

The frontier zones need to be changed so the 2 gates are in different zones. Its also takes too long for people to get to them in there own zone.

I don't understand... you want the 2 gates to be in 2 different zones, but closer to one another ?

And for large scale events, see the chapter: Relic Raid <smiles>

Bring it on, we'll be waiting for you <polishes his sword>

 

[old.Bubble]

they should make more RvR zones
with greater risks/rewards

Maybe an Epic size keep(something that totaly dwarfs excal etc)
Somewhere where we could use catapults and Ballista's to some sort of effect

 

[Balbor]

make all the gate the same distence from eachother.

People can't be bothered to go from CS to HW so they go emain instead, zergs form and camp, people moan...

 

[wyleia]

Err, are you wanting us to zerg? So whoever has the biggest zerg of random people wins?

This happens almost everynite anyways, yes at the milegates. But do you suggest the zerg move around and patrol? Heck, i think one of the biggest reasons people congregate at milegates and dont run around emain like other groups do, is because of lack of speed. Its not much fun to run around looking for stuff to kill at mach -10, and when you do hear about a battle, you miss it cuz you are turtling along and cant get there in time.

I dont see a big zerg force moving around for a regular rvr session using no speed. Its annoying enough on relic raids when we have to do that to get to the relic keep.

So even if you got your wish of constant zerging, to use force of numbers before skill (which imo is boring), I think you would still end up with the typical prime time zerg camping mmg/amg depending on who it is (mids/albs). So if you want to see your dream-zerg in action, just pop by mmg tonite around 8pm or so... They will be there, unless they are on the pad porting back from just having an encounter with the mid zerg that is.

 

[klavrynd]

http://forums.barrysworld.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=59477


if you want to zerg, go zerg in pennine mountains, its designed for zerging.

 

[Roo Stercogburn]

I'm noticing a reccuring theme to Balbor's types of posts

 

[datruth]

Roo doesn't miss much

 

[the_smurflord]

Originally posted by datruth
Roo doesn't miss much

Except his teddy bear.

 

[Sharma]

Well we can only speculate whats coming in the RvR expansion

 

[AzuratMinimus]

If you have trouble balancing a group, you could allways make a new char with speed or CC and you won´t miss that at least

But ok everyone wants to play leet uberdmg classes anyway. Then when mythic nerfs em in someway they change class to what´s uber then instead.

 

[Roo Stercogburn]

Originally posted by the_smurflord
Except his teddy bear.

You! You're the one that stole it? NOOOOOOOO!

 

[the_smurflord]

Originally posted by Roo Stercogburn
You! You're the one that stole it? NOOOOOOOO!

5 plat ransom! or it comes back a piece of stuffing at a time.


<moves from assassination to extortion>

 

[Damon_D]

" slap's Visit with a tree size mushroom" Hey there you leather clad extorsionist..leave our poor SM's teddy's alone.. they have enough to cry about as it is , you silly Alb

 

[hangianix]

Originally posted by AzuratMinimus
If you have trouble balancing a group, you could allways make a new char with speed or CC and you won´t miss that at least

But ok everyone wants to play leet uberdmg classes anyway. Then when mythic nerfs em in someway they change class to what´s uber then instead.

He is a smiter. He's reached lvl 50 maybe 2 weeks ago, so yes, he is really playing with an uber class.

 

[AzuratMinimus]

Well thought all lvl 50 smite clerics was from pre smite nerf. He could have specced for healing instead to be more group friendly.

 

[Balbor]

a huge rvr type city zone sounds cool, need a way to get around the problem of people just going over to the other realms entrace zones and camping it.

it would be nice to see large scale battle that don't just happen because people are camping eachother MG/PK. (and of course large scale battles tat don't crash the server)

 

[kr0n]

Balbor is being smart I see!
Gratz, you really but all those 3 braincells to work when you came up with this!

Zzz.

 

[hangianix]

Originally posted by AzuratMinimus
Well thought all lvl 50 smite clerics was from pre smite nerf. He could have specced for healing instead to be more group friendly.

Believe me, you wouldn't want more reju cleric (nor the albs, but they haven't realised it yet) -> more RvRing reju -> more alb grps in emain, maybe they won't zerg 'cause they have clerics, but 15 fg albs instead of 8 in emain would mean -> you meet in every 10 sec with a fg.

Btw most of the smiters are already respeced (buffbot or reju) - not me tho and I've never played with uber smite spec, got the 98% of my rps after nerf.

Fafnir said it well:

Originally posted by Fafnir
Most people play this game to have fun, not to own everytime.

I would correct most to some, 'cause some ppl find fun in owning everytime (nothing wrong with it) - so I think it is good when ppl are playing with other spec than common - so not just air theus, reju/enh spec clerics (or smiters in pre nerf ) etc.

Hmm, my post not really related with the topic, soz.

 

[old.Gombur Glodson]

Well the best fun in rvr is either 1on1, which only happens against buffed assasins, or 1fg vs 1fg.
Sadly emain doesn't offer the 1fg vs 1fg often

 

[Kahland]

lol i guess all in your guild has the same attitude Balbor, some days ago in emain we were running 1fg as usual, and Triaq from Praetorian Guards and his grp started following us. I send him, and told him and his group to stop following us, and he started with comments like these:

"Bah, why?"

"lol, now i know why we albs keep loosing, if we dont stand together we will keep dying"

"The more ppl the better we do"

"LOL, Why dont you want to zerg with us, you poor excuse of an alb"

I reckon some ppl had fun as me too when i pasted these logs on irc, i'll post logs and screenies laters, its funneh

And you say you should zerg if you dont have a balanced group, what about making one then ??? give it a little time and wait for ppl to port instead of just following the random zerg :wall:

 

[old.Gombur Glodson]

Zerging is the way of the albs, sad but true in most cases

 

[Balbor]

Originally posted by Kahland
lol i guess all in your guild has the same attitude Balbor, some days ago in emain we were running 1fg as usual, and Triaq from Praetorian Guards and his grp started following us. I send him, and told him and his group to stop following us, and he started with comments like these:

"Bah, why?"

"lol, now i know why we albs keep loosing, if we dont stand together we will keep dying"

"The more ppl the better we do"

"LOL, Why dont you want to zerg with us, you poor excuse of an alb"

I reckon some ppl had fun as me too when i pasted these logs on irc, i'll post logs and screenies laters, its funneh

And you say you should zerg if you dont have a balanced group, what about making one then ??? give it a little time and wait for ppl to port instead of just following the random zerg :wall:

I was running around in a well balenced random guild group at the weekend, not much going on so we went over the the MMG, saw some albs fighting mids so joined in only to get shouted at for doing so . Move around to PK, same thing, again more abuse from a PE group camping PK (not sure if they were camping or had just turned up). RvR is for everyone, and not all guilds can field a well balenced group with mincer and sorcerer. Even those that can might not be able to do it every time. Theres nothing worse that watching a group of 3-4 people run off towards AMG only to see there death spams come up moments later. Sometimes a zerg is the only way to push through the MGs. This is a realm vs realm server, were all on the same side, you can't expect another Albion group to set back and watch while the enemy are fighting. Its bad tactics, another enemy group could appear at any time.

I guess the only way to you can RvR without another albion group 'helping' out is go to HW or go to a PvP server and were you can have Guild vs Guild fights.

 

[Kahland]

Sorry for the 'abuse' but you joined the fight at mmg, then we left to check mpk, we ran an odd way and you followed and joined in and made it to a 'zerg' and 'zerged' 1fg of mids once again.

Then we run on and it looks like Triaq the one leading your grp at that point is stuck on our asses turning whereever we do, and we meet an fg and you do it again, altho the first times we said it nicely, 'leave us alone' etc.

 

[Balbor]

must of been a different time as Traiq wasn't with us, we had a LOE sorcerer leading us. I think going the long way around to MPK is quite common.

 

[dakeyras]

When I first went RvR I was able to solo successfully, both as a smiter and as a skald. Solos, duos, half-groups were pretty much the norm with 1fg vs 1 fg being fairly rare.

Players still zerged and there was still mg camping but once through into emain/odin's you could survive and fight solo or in small groups. That, however, has changed and it is not just population that has changed it. Mythic have made small group warfare almost impossible.

Look at some of the recent changes:

1. High con, mach 5 guards
2. Upgraded uber keeps
3. RA's meaning lower RR peeps have to herd to survive
4. Tougher new mobs in prime RvR zones
5. Corpse Summoners
6. Limitation on rams's per door
7. Warning on /gu if guards killed

etc, etc, etc

Then look at Mythics new advertising blurb...'Realm battles on an epic scale'

Ain't hard to see where the designers are going with DAOC. I don't mind that, provided there is population balance and that the hardware is made robust enough to withstand more than 300 in a zone.

 

[hrodelbert]

uber realm guards were the beginning of the end for good fun in the hibernia frontier.

 

[Balbor]

fix lag and zergs might be fun

 

[klavrynd]

i've said it once and i'll say it again

if you like zergs go play excal or avalon.

 

[ImLestat]

Originally posted by klavrynd
if you like zergs go play excal or avalon.

Says the zergpolice. What the **** gives you the right to tell people what they should or shouldn't do?