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Don't know about anyone else who likes watching WWE but I haven't watched much recently and have of lost interest in it.

All these revelations about the drugs they take and the denials of some of them like Kennedy, Regal etc who have all found to be taking them is a bit too much.

What is amazing is they will sack Eugene, but because Edge is a top star he only gets a 30 day ban for drug abuse.

It is being reported that Ric Flair has quit because he isn't getting a big enough push. Ok he isn't what he was but he was still entertaining enough.

Even Triple H coming back isn't enough to tempt me to watch.

It all just seems a bit seedy now and until they clean up their act and can't see myself watching it anymore.

And yes, its all made up and it isn't a real sport but it made for an entertaining few hours watching each week.
 

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The problem they have is that they just dont have enough main eventers anymore, that have the charisma and ring skills to get over with the crowd. Edge and HHH are the only legitimate main eventers they have. Orton isnt too far off, but hes seems intent on ruining his career. Batista, Cena, Khali etc would be no where near main event status if the WWE had the same roster it had 8 years ago. I would of put Cryme Thyme in with edge and HHH but the WWE did a "montreal screwjob" on them and then sacked them. This incident alone is evidence of how out of touch the bookers are with what the fans want. I doubt even the imminent return of Chris Jericho will be enough to turn things around.
 

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The 10 superstars said to be on suspension are Mr Kennedy, Chavo Guerrero, Gregory Helms, Randy Orton, John Morrison, Shoichi Funaki, Charlie Haas, Umaga, William Regal and Edge.

Where Batista, King Booker, Santino Marella and Chris Masters purchased the drugs from the site before the ban last year so get away with it.

I think this cant be true and some of the bigger guys Cena and Lashley are not on the list.

It is worng but Edge and Baptista have said they were using steroids only to rebuild muscel mass after injury i dont know how true it is.

I still enjoy the WWE and think they will survive this but only if the American Goverment go after TNA as well if TNA is left alone and the WWE start losing stars who cant use drugs anymore TNA could take over.

Money picks who Main Events so that is Cena and Batista. The most over guy in WWE is Matt Hardy and him vs MVP are normally good match ups which the crowd like.
 

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The 10 superstars said to be on suspension are Mr Kennedy, Chavo Guerrero, Gregory Helms, Randy Orton, John Morrison, Shoichi Funaki, Charlie Haas, Umaga, William Regal and Edge.

Where Batista, King Booker, Santino Marella and Chris Masters purchased the drugs from the site before the ban last year so get away with it.

I think this cant be true and some of the bigger guys Cena and Lashley are not on the list.

It is worng but Edge and Baptista have said they were using steroids only to rebuild muscel mass after injury i dont know how true it is.

I still enjoy the WWE and think they will survive this but only if the American Goverment go after TNA as well if TNA is left alone and the WWE start losing stars who cant use drugs anymore TNA could take over.

Cena makes them too much money to be suspended. Lashley, I feel has already been caught as a while a go, he took time off with problems to his kidneys that are a side effect of steriod abuse. It amazes me that HHH has never been caught. One wonders why.....
 

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The wwe is poor now, I only watch it due to nostalgia.

Cena is no Rock, Kennedy is no Stone Cold.

Cryme Time getting fired due to a stupid rib that they reacted to just kinda sums up the poor state the WWE is in at the moment :(

And Gibbo, nice start to the football season?;)
 

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It's good entertainment, shame that finnish tv stopped showing it. ECW would be nice, i think, if it wasn't for that screaming midget in charge.

Anyhoo, about the drugs etc use. If it's not an official word of the peeps in charge, i'd dismiss all "claims" of someone using and such.

Hell, it's possible to get that way without enhancement so, why wouldn't some go that way.

And who cares really, those are the non-show things that just don't matter.
 

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I really don't find wrestling even close to mildly entertaining :mad:

Guess it's just me :(
 

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I really don't find wrestling even close to mildly entertaining :mad:

Guess it's just me :(
Yea I enjoyed it when I was about 9 years old but then I just kept noticeing how fake and retarded it is, and switched to mma.
 

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Yea I enjoyed it when I was about 9 years old but then I just kept noticeing how fake and retarded it is, and switched to mma.

And two guys rolling on a mat for 2 minutes is entertainment? Last time I watched mma, i thought they were trying to spoon each other :/
 

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People who think that people who watch it, think it's real, usually are the ones who don't like it because it's not real.

Those who actually watch it for entertainment, always knew it's not real, but as such, it's nice show of choreographed slobberknockering :D
 

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And two guys rolling on a mat for 2 minutes is entertainment? Last time I watched mma, i thought they were trying to spoon each other :/
Yea choking someone out cold, breaking there arm (they tap just before); knocking a guy out cold with punches while having him mounted etc is spoon feeding. Its real talent and not aerobics, you need to train in several martial arts sports and it’s a technical battle of skill.

While wrestling is all fake, they stamp there foot and pretend to hit, jump up and down with each other, touch each other up and make all these drama story’s and scenes that only a 8 year old American kid would find funny? Its pathetic and you have to be pathetic for a grown man to even watch it.#

and its 5 mins, 4 mins and 50 seconds more then you could do.
 

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Yea choking someone out cold, breaking there arm (they tap just before); knocking a guy out cold with punches while having him mounted etc is spoon feeding. Its real talent and not aerobics, you need to train in several martial arts sports and it’s a technical battle of skill.

It looks gay, dont care how much you go into how "legit" it is

While wrestling is all fake, they stamp there foot and pretend to hit, jump up and down with each other, touch each other up and make all these drama story’s and scenes that only a 8 year old American kid would find funny? Its pathetic and you have to be pathetic for a grown man to even watch it.[/

Not really, granted some wrestlers do it but most of the time the only "fakeness" is the finishes, iewho wins and loses. As for the storylines, I rarely watch for them and watch for the wrestling.

Oh, watch Vader vs Cactus Jack from the WCW in 93, Vader smacks Jack so hard his nose breaks. Yea thats fake...
 

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thats only because mick foley is a nut job.. like Funk's and orginal ECW like dreamer.


no matter how scripted/fake something is.. using cheese graters and thumb tacks still must hurt like hell when thrust into someones face...



oh and back to the point.. Yep WWE sucks now.. TNA is good but they hardley ever show it..
 

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Well Thadius kinda beat me(no pun) to it, but if you whink that what happens in the ring/outside, damage wise, is fake, then have a go at it.

I'd bet there's only a handful here who could actually go in that ring and survive.

It takes talent, it DOES hurt, but usually it doesn't kill and because of the expertise involved, they don't break stuff too often either.

If you think getting hit by a steel(rimmed) chair, falling 8 feet, through a cage and on some glass doesn't hurt you and is ALL fake, you need to try it out.

Also they need to be in quite physical shape to do half the things they do.
 

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It looks gay, dont care how much you go into how "legit" it is



Not really, granted some wrestlers do it but most of the time the only "fakeness" is the finishes, iewho wins and loses. As for the storylines, I rarely watch for them and watch for the wrestling.

Oh, watch Vader vs Cactus Jack from the WCW in 93, Vader smacks Jack so hard his nose breaks. Yea thats fake...
Gay? Yea wrestling isn't gay, just sweaty men covered in baby oil and leotards jumping around touching each other up, while mma is just a mix of martial arts in an octagon? And noses often get broken in mma and they carry on fighting because it’s real, that’s what happens when you punch someone.

Want to watch wrestling? Watch Greco roman match’s then, MMA is real wrestling. Sorry to piss on your fire works but you’re a tad old to watch this shit.
 

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Well Thadius kinda beat me(no pun) to it, but if you whink that what happens in the ring/outside, damage wise, is fake, then have a go at it.

I'd bet there's only a handful here who could actually go in that ring and survive.

It takes talent, it DOES hurt, but usually it doesn't kill and because of the expertise involved, they don't break stuff too often either.

If you think getting hit by a steel(rimmed) chair, falling 8 feet, through a cage and on some glass doesn't hurt you and is ALL fake, you need to try it out.

Also they need to be in quite physical shape to do half the things they do.
The char isn't steel you prune and the they land on a trampoline type material, if it’s so bad then where are the effects? Someone’s got visual damage in MMA from 1-2 punches with GLOVES in the first round.

Yea I agree you need to be in good shape, there bodybuilding gymnasts that like to do acting also, that’s all it is.
 

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Gay? Yea wrestling isn't gay, just sweaty men covered in baby oil and leotards jumping around touching each other up, while mma is just a mix of martial arts in an octagon? And noses often get broken in mma and they carry on fighting because it’s real, that’s what happens when you punch someone.

Want to watch wrestling? Watch Greco roman match’s then, MMA is real wrestling. Sorry to piss on your fire works but you’re a tad old to watch this shit.

You think i m bothered if you think im sad? I see wrestling as any other tv show, a bit like Lost or Heroes.

No, wrestling looks a lot less gay than rolling around on a mat for 3 minutes.
 

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In reality WWE has gone down hill since the like of The Rock, Stone Cold and Kurt Angle left, the whole entertainment side of it has gone down hill; no one is able to use the mic the way stone cold or the rock did or Jericho for that matter.

John Cena is the most overrated peice of shit the only decent wrestlers left are : Orton, Edge, Undertaker, Kane and ofcourse Lashley who is a huge tallent.

If Jericho is to return like the rumour says I have a feeling that with a good enough story line ratings might pick up.
The best wrestler in terms of ability and charisma is Randy Orton but the wrestler with the most potential is Lashley.
 

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The char isn't steel you prune and the they land on a trampoline type material, if it’s so bad then where are the effects? Someone’s got visual damage in MMA from 1-2 punches with GLOVES in the first round.

Yea I agree you need to be in good shape, there bodybuilding gymnasts that like to do acting also, that’s all it is.

Where did that "you prune" come from? :eek7:

Just HAD TO throw in an insult?

The chair isn't steel(complete), but the rims are. Like i said in my post.

Anyway, yes, they are actors. That's why it's entertainment. Also, it's called "show wrestling".

Kinda gives out the reason for it not being real right?

The effects are(can look them up too) around. Broken bones, noses, deaths even.

Sure, the ring has a "bounce" to it, to give more show and most the punches etc are faked. But when someone jumps off a 12 foot ladder, off stage, through three tables and on a basic mat...that's pain right there.

Most of the WWE matches have blood in them, and people get bleeds and other stuff.

Just because they hit for real in Ultimate Fighter and such, doesn't devalue the pain factor of WWE.

The only difference is, other is a contact sport, other is a show sport.
 

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The char isn't steel you prune and the they land on a trampoline type material, if it’s so bad then where are the effects? Someone’s got visual damage in MMA from 1-2 punches with GLOVES in the first round.

Yea I agree you need to be in good shape, there bodybuilding gymnasts that like to do acting also, that’s all it is.

Torn muscles, death in the ring, serious injuries, blood, broken noses, eyes popping out of sockets.

I do not doubt for one second that mma is legit, the same with boxing. It just looks a lot more homoerotic than wrestling does
 

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Torn muscles, death in the ring, serious injuries, blood, broken noses, eyes popping out of sockets.

I do not doubt for one second that mma is legit, the same with boxing. It just looks a lot more homoerotic than wrestling does
I disagree, how isn't baby oil and leotards not homoerotic? and torn muscles? Oh nos.
 

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MMA is shit. Sorry but it is. Give me boxing any day of the week
 

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MMA is shit. Sorry but it is. Give me boxing any day of the week
Boxing is shit, why would you watch boxing with 8-12 ounce gloves and pussy jabs that last 12 rounds of boring muck? there’s better boxing in mma.

ufc 75 is on saturday live in london, you might wanna watch it on santanter w/e its called or online :england:
 

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All these revelations about the drugs they take and the denials of some of them like Kennedy, Regal etc who have all found to be taking them is a bit too much.

What is amazing is they will sack Eugene, but because Edge is a top star he only gets a 30 day ban for drug abuse.


Laughed so hard reading this. No drugs in wrestling! Yeah right! Cos its perfectly natural to look like that without enhancement drugs! Sorry mate but US sports outside of Olympic type competitors is pretty much a drug fest. American footballers from college age are taking steroids to boost muscle gain and performance. Any sport where that much money is involved there will be always be drug users.

30 day ban just shows how seriously they take it. They damn well know they all use them. More a publicity stunt than a punative measure to prevent it.
 

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Laughed so hard reading this. No drugs in wrestling! Yeah right! Cos its perfectly natural to look like that without enhancement drugs! Sorry mate but US sports outside of Olympic type competitors is pretty much a drug fest. American footballers from college age are taking steroids to boost muscle gain and performance. Any sport where that much money is involved there will be always be drug users.

30 day ban just shows how seriously they take it. They damn well know they all use them. More a publicity stunt than a punative measure to prevent it.
They are bodybuilding gymnasts, and 95% of them will need nandrolone to do what they do.
 

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Laughed so hard reading this. No drugs in wrestling! Yeah right! Cos its perfectly natural to look like that without enhancement drugs! Sorry mate but US sports outside of Olympic type competitors is pretty much a drug fest. American footballers from college age are taking steroids to boost muscle gain and performance. Any sport where that much money is involved there will be always be drug users.

Like i said, sure, there is drug-use, but it would be foolish to say ALL of them use drugs.

Because it IS possible to look like that with natural ways, just that it takes helluva lot of work.

I don't think anyone said "there's no drugs at all".
 

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Like i said, sure, there is drug-use, but it would be foolish to say ALL of them use drugs.

Because it IS possible to look like that with natural ways, just that it takes helluva lot of work.

I don't think anyone said "there's no drugs at all".
I would bet my arse that they have all used steroids at one point in there life to get there, its physically impossible for someone like "The Rock" to be what he is with out steroids. For one his joints and constant injury’s would have held him back let alone his size and agility etc at his state now.

And yes I do know what I’m talking about, the since of 16 I devoted my life to bodybuilding.
 

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They are bodybuilding gymnasts, and 95% of them will need nandrolone to do what they do.

Why would they need nandrolone?

In fairness the rock's physique wouldn't be hard to achieve as a natty trainer but it would take a while.

How long have you been training for out of interest - care to share your lifts?
 

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I would bet my arse that they have all used steroids at one point in there life to get there, its physically impossible for someone like "The Rock" to be what he is with out steroids. For one his joints and constant injury’s would have held him back let alone his size and agility etc at his state now.

And yes I do know what I’m talking about, the since of 16 I devoted my life to bodybuilding.

Yes, but you can't say it's a 100% certain that they are all using.

The Rock may be(don't know), but there are tons of smaller guys in the WWE also.

Just because some look like they've used dopey since age 3, doesn't mean they all are.

But you hate the WWE with a passion, or atleast seem to/don't listen to anything about it that might be positive, so i'm not suprised if you answer this with a "lol" or something other constructive as that.
 

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