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Why would they need nandrolone?

In fairness the rock's physique wouldn't be hard to achieve as a natty trainer but it would take a while.

How long have you been training for out of interest - care to share your lifts?
The human body wasn't built to, to train very hard with weights then start becoming mr gymnast in the ring and training with an above average mass on a average frame.

You would certainly need nandrolone for the joint & tendon recovery time (collagen synthesis increase up to 280%) in that business and it’s favoured over Boldenone or Primobolan because it doesn't aromatised and it doesn't get 5 alpha reduced into a more potent hormone. And obviously because it’s easily stacked with Test and it creates a “the magic fluid” around the joints also.If you search you will see the majority of mma / wwe wrestlers have or will get caught for nandrolone.

I’m not a power lifter, I’m a body builder, I’ve done a few comps(untested) and I’ve been training since I was 16, I’m in my 20s now. But last time I checked my 1rep max were on the big 3, I didn’t and don’t always train them, for instance I don’t do bench press unless I’m mixing my lifts up and trying for a 1rm.

Bench – 150-160KG
Squat – About 140KG
Deadlift – About 170KG
 

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Mephz, just go away. You dont like something that a few members here do. Its not an excuse to proclaim MMA the best sport in the world.

Maybe MMA spurns on violence in the UK? Watching violent sports, sports that are way more violent than boxing or wrestling.

Its like dog fighting, instead with humans replacing the dogs...
 

Mephz

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Mephz, just go away. You dont like something that a few members here do. Its not an excuse to proclaim MMA the best sport in the world.

Maybe MMA spurns on violence in the UK? Watching violent sports, sports that are way more violent than boxing or wrestling.

Its like dog fighting, instead with humans replacing the dogs...
No it isn't, that's what people say when they haven't watched it so obviously you have no idea what your talking about. Me on the other hand was watching wrestling before you even knew what it was.
 

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No it isn't, that's what people say when they haven't watched it so obviously you have no idea what your talking about. Me on the other hand was watching wrestling before you even knew what it was.

I have seen enough of it to realise what it is. Why is it not different from dig fighting?

Two creatures fighting to do as much pain as possible to the other whilst being cheered on from outside the ring by those who love the bloodlust.

And ive been watching wrestling since I was 3, does that mean you beat me in life or something?
 

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I have seen enough of it to realise what it is. Why is it not different from dig fighting?

Two creatures fighting to do as much pain as possible to the other whilst being cheered on from outside the ring by those who love the bloodlust.

And ive been watching wrestling since I was 3, does that mean you beat me in life or something?
Bloodlust? People watch it for the skill not the blood; it’s a battle of technical ability’s.
 

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Bloodlust? People watch it for the skill not the blood; it’s a battle of technical ability’s.

So breaking peoples arms and whacking people in the nose till it breaks is "technical".....
 

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So breaking peoples arms and whacking people in the nose till it breaks is "technical".....
Yes, because it involves a high level of skill to get someone to that point. People don't like to do it, that's why the other person taps or the ref stops it and its over.
 

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I’m not a power lifter, I’m a body builder, I’ve done a few comps(untested) and I’ve been training since I was 16, I’m in my 20s now. But last time I checked my 1rep max were on the big 3, I didn’t and don’t always train them, for instance I don’t do bench press unless I’m mixing my lifts up and trying for a 1rm.

Bench – 150-160KG
Squat – About 140KG
Deadlift – About 170KG

Nice lifts - your bench seems quite high in relation to your other two, but still a great achievement :)
 

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Nice lifts - your bench seems quite high in relation to your other two, but still a great achievement :)
Everyone starts out as a bench whore first :) , I'm more of a leg press man my self i'm not too keen on squats.
 

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Bloodlust? People watch it for the skill not the blood; it’s a battle of technical ability’s.

You can't be serious that people don't watch and cheer at it because of "bloodlust" :eek7:

That's basic human behavior, screaming "Kill him!"(not in so many words) is the reason most people go to watch it.

I doubt that even 15% of the audience go there and clap at technical performances.
 

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You can't be serious that people don't watch and cheer at it because of "bloodlust" :eek7:

That's basic human behavior, screaming "Kill him!"(not in so many words) is the reason most people go to watch it.

I doubt that even 15% of the audience go there and clap at technical performances.
Don't doubt, watch a whole show.
 

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Don't doubt, watch a whole show.

And that would change what i said...how exactly?

I've seen a show, i've seen ultimate fighter shows, i've been to a live show. Doesn't change the fact that people want blood.
 

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And that would change what i said...how exactly?

I've seen a show, i've seen ultimate fighter shows, i've been to a live show. Doesn't change the fact that people want blood.
.Well then you’re an idiot or just saying that for argument purposes.
 

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Well then you’re an idiot or just saying that for argument purposes.

Oh how nice.

You really know how to discuss a matter constructively.

You haven't offered any reason why people don't want blood, or why it's doubtful that people watch it for the violence part of it.

Just because YOU watch it for a technical reason, doesn't mean that the majority of the viewers don't simply watch it for...the slobber-knockering that goes around.
 

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Thadius said:
Maybe MMA spurns on violence in the UK?

Could just say the same for wrestling, when I was I kid and saw it the first times I never understood it was fake :)

Now I just find it silly, looks so bloody stupid. But if you people like it, that's great! :)

Would much rather see some technical combat/martial arts things. Doesn't necessarily have to be all bloody and broken noses though :)
 

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Could just say the same for wrestling, when I was I kid and saw it the first times I never understood it was fake :)

Now I just find it silly, looks so bloody stupid. But if you people like it, that's great! :)

Would much rather see some technical combat/martial arts things. Doesn't necessarily have to be all bloody and broken noses though :)
brains at last.
 

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I don't see how people can't see the difference between:

SHOW entertainment and REAL stuff... o_o
 

old.Tohtori

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I don't see how people can't see the difference between:

SHOW entertainment and REAL stuff... o_o

Because their REAL stuff is so much more precious and everything else is crap.

Close minded bull, which usually leads to nothing.

I can say that i enjoy watching REAL fighting, and i don't have to defend my liking of SHOW wrestling by saying "Your show is crap!"
 

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Bloodlust? People watch it for the skill not the blood; it’s a battle of technical ability’s.

Look at peoples faces at the side of a UFC ring they are not after technical masterpieces that’s why you hear them boo when two guys start grappling. They cheer when people are punching not when they are using tactics. The title at the last show proved this every time randy created space and threw a punch they exploded when he went back to grappling they went quiet. You might watch it for a technical show and to applaud tactics a skill most people who go want to see someone get his head kicked in.
 

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Here is my thoughts on it all :)

I dont mind wrestling (wwe) However it is nothing like it was when the Rock and stone cold were around.

With regards to steroids, you go and find me someone out there that is the size of HHH or Batista and is as ripped that has not taken steroids.

Surely there is a legal enhancment drug that allows them to get to that size? Its not as if they need to roids to win matches because that side of it is all scripted. People wouldnt watch it if it was 2 skinny kids fighting in the ring, its all about the show giant men fighting against each other.

With regards to mephz or what ever he is called, trying to compare WWE to MMA is like smoking cock instead of weed.

I love watching MMA and I really enjoy it but it does not make me angry to know that people like watching WWE either.
 

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Most of the high end fights in UFC are all about ground and pound, which really isnt that technical at all. Give me 2 japanese guys versed in submission anyday over Liddel throwing haymakers.
 

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Look at peoples faces at the side of a UFC ring they are not after technical masterpieces that’s why you hear them boo when two guys start grappling. They cheer when people are punching not when they are using tactics. The title at the last show proved this every time randy created space and threw a punch they exploded when he went back to grappling they went quiet. You might watch it for a technical show and to applaud tactics a skill most people who go want to see someone get his head kicked in.


On that subject, was watching the 7 sins of England, and one was about the UFC. The guy they were interviewing was booing when the submission started but when they were punching each other, he was jumping up and down, almost foaming at the mouth with joy
 

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Mephz said:
Bloodlust? People watch it for the skill not the blood; it’s a battle of technical ability’s.

If you don't think people watch real fighting shows to see someone get his head punched in your completely clueless. There's a small faction that enjoys the technical aspects of it, mostly those that also participate in the sport. If those were the only people that watched it it would get zero air time due to lack of interest.

WWE is fake but that doesn't mean it doesn't hurt or take a large amount of skill to perform. The skill set is very different to actual fighting but it's certainly no easier to do. Infact it's probably much easier to do most of the moves they do if you don't care if the person your doing them to can stand up afterwards or not.

People that put down stuff just because they don't like it tend to be fairly insecure most of the time. Want me to pidgeon hole you into this category like your doing to all the WWE fans?
 

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This might sound really odd and probably Mephz will lap it up, but most of the wrestling moves look good but DONT hurt. Thats why you train for years, any fool can do a ddt and injure his opponent. The skill is to do it safely for the audience.
 

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I've chokeslammed some kid IRL before (Day I snapped IRL) dropped him from like 6"8 (this kid was like.. 5"1) walked off, realised what I did then made sure his head was okay o_O Helped him up then got yelled at by the head of school.

(Didn't get told of much, all tutors knowing I was depressed == 4tw xD)


Not nice things to do without training, scares me that all the kids keep doing it on the streets trying to be cool. They can seriously get hurt.
 

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I've chokeslammed some kid IRL before (Day I snapped IRL) dropped him from like 6"8 (this kid was like.. 5"1) walked off, realised what I did then made sure his head was okay o_O Helped him up then got yelled at by the head of school.

(Didn't get told of much, all tutors knowing I was depressed == 4tw xD)


Not nice things to do without training, scares me that all the kids keep doing it on the streets trying to be cool. They can seriously get hurt.

6 ft 8! :eek:

Are you Kane irl? ¬.¬
 
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I don't want to insult the wrestlers that are currently in the WWE. They are good guys and do their job well, and they still give people their entertainment.
 

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I don't want to insult the wrestlers that are currently in the WWE. They are good guys and do their job well, and they still give people their entertainment.


Feel free to insult John Cena, he is boring xD
 

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