Worth coming back?

[emma]

Me and the Wife have been drifting from MMORPG to MMORPG since we gave up DAoC about a year ago. We both had level 50 chars and numerous alts but our accounts have now found their way into other peoples hands. We're waiting for either EQ2 or WoW and need something to fill in the space till then and are considering coming back to the game. SI was well established when we left but we know nothing about the new expansion, is it worth buying the full 3 in 1 product? How is server population, bugs, general gameplay and have GOA improved at all (i'm seriously doubting this). Has anyone got a link to that skills calculator so i can check out whats changed and the new classes if any.

Thanks in advance.

Personally i would say no its not worth coming back.

There`s just too much involved now with getting a character to RvR status.

First you need level 50, then you need to get ToA artifacts and level those (some of which are almost like leveling another char). then you need to get spellcrafted armour, and finally you need some master level`s which depending on class can vary.

If i were you i`d maybe look into lineage2 for now until WoW comes out in 5-6 months. Its new so something to explore and its actually not that bad. Check out the open beta available on there web site http://www.lineage2.com/ try it out before making a decision on what to do next, if you decide to stick to it any characters you have when beta ends you keep for release.

 

[CliffyG]

Forgot to say the Wife may be speccing 46 Void, 28 Shadow.

DAoC gold edition arrived today so will be playing in Hib later on this evening.

It's not all about end game for us though, although RvR is a good the PvM was the most enjoyable out of all of the others we've played.

 

[Wij]

Then I hope you enjoy it even if everyone else is a misery

See you in RvR...

 

[Sigurd]

And my last on bit of the matter of Sigurd, i was not in any guild at the time in a group with 5 or 6 other 50's (i was not group leader either). I asked if they minded and all of them did as you were only 32 or so. Please stop trying to cause arguments in my thread now, sick of you already.

I wasn't talking about me, but complaints I recieved from other guildies wandering why you wouldn't group them (in their 40s) in RvR... I wasn't the only one you drove away after deciding to take over the guild... all I'm saying is that it's ironic, you asking for help once more... I'd forgotten the whole thing until I saw this post.

BTW you should know if you remember me that I don't stand down from things, so no I won't leave your thread, I could be a lot less civilised than this towards you old... friend.

 

[Brunore]

Its total crap that you NEED to get L10 artifacts, you NEED to be MLwhatever....

All you do need is a decent SC suit and thats not hard to get, you will have that before you hit 50.

Play the game and enjoy it, thats what it is a game, not a todo list...

 

[Oro]

Play the game and enjoy it, thats what it is a game, not a todo list...

The most worthwhile thing said on this thread outside of the asked-for char help of course

And yes, the game is worth coming back to. It just doesn't suit everyone the same as it did before because it has changed somewhat.

Would be pretty boring if it didn't over time

 

[Flimgoblin]

it's frustrating for people because they know where the "finish line" is and get upset that they're not at it...

back when you started it was all new and exploring I'm sure some people had MUST GET 50!!!! but a lot of people were more relaxed. Now levelling up a lot of people have done it before or they see everyone around them is level 50 and they feel left behind, that they need to "catch up" - this'll cause frustration.

So will people with artifact/ML envy - some people are ML10 already, if you worry about it then it'll get you down, if you don't worry about that sorta thing then you'll find the game as fun as it used to be (at least once you get to the "ooh new stuff" bits of ToA).

Personally I think the game's great at the moment - ToA has brought a lot more stuff to do at level 50 than just the usual run around emain farming zergs/feeding RvR groups or the one or two dungeons to explore in SI.

Of course if all you like doing is running around emain farming zergs/feeding RvR groups (I'll never understand it - it's fun for a bit...) and absolutely detest the thought of actually killing some challenging (or zergable... take yer pick) PvE encounters then you'll hate ToA.

 

[Tualatin]

If you don't like one realm, you can always reroll =)

 

[CliffyG]

I was never a fan of emain really anyway, my friar was normally hanging around Alb frontiers on my own when i did do RvR. We're both big fans of PvE so are looking foward to the new additions.

Can someone just confirm for me that these 2 specs aren't gimped and that they'll be ok as a duo:

Bard: 20 regrowth, 23 nurture, 47 music, 34 blades.
Eldritch: 46 void, 28 Shadow.

 

[old.windforce]

bard one can't be right

well its not fotm in any sense

 

[CliffyG]

bard one can't be right

well its not fotm in any sense

Whats wrong with it? I don't like following templates and it looks pretty much how i like to play but if it's that gimped then please tell me.

 

[Jonaldo]

Bard seems a bit high in blades really as he should never need to fight. Maybe just get enough for taunt and stick the rest back in regrowth or nurture.

Would advise animist > eldritch if it's just you two.. in fact even in groups.

 

[Tucka]

Hello Cliff, nice to see you back in game again Its me Maragan from yesteryear, im still here

 

[CliffyG]

Bard seems a bit high in blades really as he should never need to fight. Maybe just get enough for taunt and stick the rest back in regrowth or nurture.

Would advise animist > eldritch if it's just you two.. in fact even in groups.

OK i've dropped blades a bit but don't want to go any lower. Will be 27 regrowth, 23 nurture, 47 music and 29 blades. If i'm not supposed to be fighting how will fighting mobs work when we're in a duo?

Hello Cliff, nice to see you back in game again Its me Maragan from yesteryear, im still here

Hello mate, how many 50's now eh? Maybe see you in RvR in a few months lol.

 

[CliffyG]

Forgot to ask, where are some good places in Hib to level. We got to level 4 last night which took bloody ages for some reason and we have a few quests planned for up to level 10 but where are some good xp spots for 5+?

 

[Jonaldo]

OK i've dropped blades a bit but don't want to go any lower. Will be 27 regrowth, 23 nurture, 47 music and 29 blades. If i'm not supposed to be fighting how will fighting mobs work when we're in a duo?

That's why I recommended Animist Let the pets do the work and keep agro while you buff and heal them whilst running powersong.
The animist can nuke and if the draw agro, heal them instead and they can also QC lifetap to get some health back.

 

[Jonaldo]

Forgot to ask, where are some good places in Hib to level. We got to level 4 last night which took bloody ages for some reason and we have a few quests planned for up to level 10 but where are some good xp spots for 5+?

Around the river North of Ardee is ideal for low people all the way up to about 10 maybe. But from 8ish onwards, try the Blackthorns along the road South of Mag Mell, also opposite them in the hills you have badgers, wolves and other things.

Don't kill the little people, they are our friends!

 

[CliffyG]

That's why I recommended Animist Let the pets do the work and keep agro while you buff and heal them whilst running powersong.
The animist can nuke and if the draw agro, heal them instead and they can also QC lifetap to get some health back.

The wife has never been a fan of pet classes, the eldritch suits her play style down to the ground so she's gonna stick with that. I'll see how the bard goes in a duo but may have to be something a bit more able to take a beating.

 

[CliffyG]

I'm seriously considering rolling a Warden or an Animist instead of a Bard. I think they'll both complement an Eldritch better. Warden does seem to be the best bet but i quite like the idea of an animist. Would an Animists pet be OK for tanking for us?

 

[Modesst]

I'm seriously considering rolling a Warden or an Animist instead of a Bard. I think they'll both complement an Eldritch better. Warden does seem to be the best bet but i quite like the idea of an animist. Would an Animists pet be OK for tanking for us?

Well, prolly my first and only time posting here, but i will tell you this, Eldy/Bard combo rocks. I have a 47 (retired) bard on Pell, and my wife had a high level eldy there as well, and i barely had ANY weapon spec at all. i only had 2 blunt, that's it, the rest was like 47 music, and high heal spec (built for RvR). We still OMG WTFpwned mobs right and left. If you are gonna be an animist, then one of you needs to be a Ment or a Bard, for power regen since they are HUGE power hogs. I'd stick with your original idea of eldy/bard, can't go wrong there.

Modesst-Bard 47 (retired) Pellinore

 

[CliffyG]

I think the problem is i need a more hands on approach and the Bard style doesn't suit me, i was the same with Mincers when i played Alb. I like to get stuck in occasionally unless im playing a pure healer.

 

[Kokelimonkelmedisin]

you need 43 nurt if you ever want to get a group in RvR

 

[Modesst]

No kidding Koke... that's why i said high heal spec... it's been along time since i've played my bard, i just don't remember his exact end spec that i was shooting for... And you can still get in the thick of it as a bard... Don't knock one till you try one When you get stuck as the only healer type in a group because most dr00ds are bots nowadays, you learn to CC and heal and twist all at the same time, that would keep you plenty busy... but then again you did say you weren't gonna RvR, so i will now try to get back on track with that. If you don't think that a bard isn't intensive enough for ya, try another class then, and good luck, i mearly suggest that a bard is a fairly good choice to comeplemnt an eldy, and why i suggest that. anyways, GL to ya in picking a toon.

Mod

 

[Thegreatest]

Roll an enchanter/mentalist combo really and let your wife play the mentalist if she doesnt like to play a pet class..I think you know the tactics so dont think I need to explain it, but if you dont like playing a bard, a mentalist is a great class too to duo with an enchanter (you'll only miss the buffs tho but you get aoe dot which helps with pbaoe and hot > heal due to not generating aggro)

 

[CliffyG]

Am going for a 26 regrowth, 45 Nurture, 10 Parry and 39 Blades Warden. Quite similar to how my Friar was and a play style i enjoy.

Am going for a full Arborial Spec Animist as my solo char.

 

[Ctuchik]

Am going for a full Arborial Spec Animist as my solo char.

go Creeping insted... way more fun