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[Summo]

Jesus! Why would you want desktop machines involved in Active Directory? No wonder tech peeps said no.

Work politics is fun.

 

[Sawtooth]

Stability over gameplay? I keep reading theres a significant slowdown in Q3 14-15 fps cos of the ACPI (Everything routed through IRQ4 ffs). I know you can disable this but whats the point of upgrading if you lose out in the one area thats really important. There was an article about thjis on bluesnews yesterday.

Sawtooth

 

[Summo]

That sounds like its to do with IRQ sharing on the same IRQ as the graphics card. Maybe. BIOS manufacturers will be coding better support for ACPI in future upgrades.

There should be a setting in the BIOS to reserve IRQ for VGA or Video or Display or similar, make sure it's enabled. Once this has been sorted you'll probably notice a performance increase due to the improved way XP handles iteself when run in the background (ie when you've got Q2 or whatever as the foreground app), memory and protected address space etc etc.

Each to their own, though. Contrary to how it might appear I'm not an XP rep, though I've yet to find fault.

Though if you're looking for a good deal on hassle-free gaming, why not visit...

 

[Durzel]

I'm willing to bet you've never actually tried using XP for an extended period of time.

That's the funny thing about a lot of Internet-savvy people - they read a few half-baked reviews on TheRegister, see a few screenshots from RC1-beta dotted around on the Web, hear a few old wives tales and suddenly they're the World's authority on XP. God forbid they actually use/install the piece of software they seem to know so much about - why should they after all, they've already determined its worth without actually needing to try it for themselves.

SomeGuy hit the nail on the head for me really. Software companies are already beginning to support XP in their product lines, every bit of software and hardware I've installed - even where there has been no XP-specific drivers - has installed and run like a dream with absolutely no compatibility issues whatsoever.

For the most part I think people are generally turned off by the apparent "cutesy" nature how it looks and feels when you first install it. It's worth noting that Windows 2000 also comes with themes, the only difference is that they aren't enabled by default, where on XP they are. It takes all of about 5 minutes to turn off all of the cutesyness, turning XP (visually anyway) into an exact match of Windows 2000.

That together with the faster loading times, greater compatibility and a myriad of other features make it essentially what Windows 2000 should've been (imho of course).

 

[bodhi]

Originally posted by sawtooth
Stability over gameplay? I keep reading theres a significant slowdown in Q3 14-15 fps cos of the ACPI (Everything routed through IRQ4 ffs). I know you can disable this but whats the point of upgrading if you lose out in the one area thats really important. There was an article about thjis on bluesnews yesterday.

Sawtooth

So I'd go from 190 to 175fps? Shucks

 

[shabazz]

Nah q3 doesnt drop any fps

(and like bodhi said, who'd sodding notice anyway )

Gotta agree with someguy though, xp really is sweeeet!

 

[Testin da Cable]

Originally posted by SomeGuy

Work politics is fun.

heh it is kinda [to watch]. the stunts pulled get stranger and stranger.
some nutter was doing the rounds a coupla weeks ago attempting to get all *ix platforms taken down as then his project would be cut some slack. he got rather glum when someone got around to telling him that all our criticals run on unix heh
he said that information didn't stroke with his own, so he'd have to investigate it heh.
makes you wonder sometimes

 

[Wij]

'kin muppets some manager-types. they think nothing matters except their own projects. absolute rubbish. it's well known that my projects are most important !

 

[Testin da Cable]

you understand I work under nda, so I can only give you the gist of things, but here's an excerpt from a recent conversation with a doomed young managerial type:

HE: I've only been here two days, but as I now lead project X there will be some major changes
ME: so you've been saddled with X huh? doomed you are young padawan
HE: what?
ME: what are you proposing?
HE: I intend to remove all ideas implemented by my predecessor
ME: so you're changing the plans?
HE: no. I'm just looking at them from a fresh perspective
ME: 'removing' sounds a lot like 'changing' if you ask me
HE: no, it's a totally different concept
ME: what? removing or changing?
HE: you're not being very helpful.
ME: my card is bigger than yours

 

[Summo]

Heh heh heh heh.

 

[Wij]

Secret Info from our management roadmap...

Q1 2002: Outsourcing, Business lead, Flat Structure.
Q2 2002: Insourcing, Technology lead, Flat Structure.
Q3 2002: Outsourcing, Technology lead, Vertical Structure.
Q4 2002: Insourcing, Business lead, Vertical Structure.

and so on...

 

[Summo]

This is turning into a Dilbert thread.

I like it!

 

[Testin da Cable]

I'll top you there Wij

we're moving to a vertical organizational structure with an flat proces stream overlay

 

[Summo]

Really? We're moving away from a vertical structure to a circular, moduled 'onion-skin' structure. Central management with independant, detachable, easily privatised layers.

'Ats the public sector for ya!

 

[old.Kez]

Originally posted by testin_da_cable
ME: my card is bigger than yours

HEH!

 

[Durzel]

Q1 2002: Outsourcing, Business lead, Flat Structure.
Q2 2002: Insourcing, Technology lead, Flat Structure.
Q3 2002: Outsourcing, Technology lead, Vertical Structure.
Q4 2002: Insourcing, Business lead, Vertical Structure.

LOL Wij!

As for my company, they're conceptualizing on a few new proposals that should augment the existing revenue streams to provide a multi-tier system wherein key services can be unilaterally brought up to speed with development advancements, thus providing a cost-effective, cohesive model for future business development.

(they're supporting ADSL for customers)

 

[Testin da Cable]

The customer can count on us to collaboratively integrate multimedia based leadership skills and assertively fashion low-risk high-yield services to meet our customer's needs

 

[Wij]

It sounds like your company runs an S&M prducts site. Am I right ?

 

[Summo]

Link?

 

[bodhi]

Riiiiiight.

I'm a student. I have 10 hours a week.

Sucks to be you guys

 

[Sawtooth]

So how many people here spend say at least 89 quid on an upgrade to just see if its worth having?
That sounds a bit naive to me.

I've read several reviews about XP in PC Format & on the net and the choice is not as clear as it seems. Sure some people say its got the stability of 2000 but I'm willin to bet that like 98,95 and the rest it ships with just a few thousand new bugs. Now maybe theyve cracked stability ( agood thing) and it only falls over cos of crap code in games etc. But I still need to know if after forkin out large sums of cash on hardware to run Quake at lightening speed whether this is going to screw it up. I'm certainly not going to spend money until I read about this somewhere.

My OHO is to wait to see what actually happens after its got general release, and get the XP second edition....microsoft always like to make more money by releasing the patched version later ot havent you noticed?

Sawtooth

 

[Will]

I'd check your bank balance before you get all cocky about it Bodhi

 

[Testin da Cable]

lol
there's this tho Itchy: Bods can get student loans aiiii

Student: hey I need 6G's to get a new poota!!5
Clerk: sure no problem
Student: while you're at it, I want to get a car too!
Clerk: sure no problem
Student: hey, I have a stick here, want I hit you with it?
Clerk: sure no problem


heh, soz feeling wonky

 

[Wij]

want i hit you with it ???

v wonky m8

 

[Testin da Cable]

/me thinks about adverse effects of combining C8H9NO2 and C8H10N4O2

 

[Will]

If only it was that easy

 

[bodhi]

Originally posted by ItchyTrigaFinga
I'd check your bank balance before you get all cocky about it Bodhi

What all -1650 quid of it?

 

[Summo]

Originally posted by sawtooth
So how many people here spend say at least 89 quid on an upgrade to just see if its worth having?
That sounds a bit naive to me.

Heh. I wonder if anybody on these forums has actually paid for an OS before.

Sawtooth - like I said before there is a freely (legally) available 120-day trial XP Pro. If you don't like it, don't buy it.

My OHO is to wait to see what actually happens after its got general release, and get the XP second edition

There won't be an XP Second Edition but there will be NT4 and 2000 style Service Packs. No doubt it does ship with a whole new set of bugs, but I personally haven't found any yet. Can't argue with waiting to see how it pans out - if you can wait that long.

microsoft always like to make more money by releasing the patched version later ot havent you noticed?

Um... how do MS make money by releasing free upgrades?

 

[Testin da Cable]

SomeGuy said:
I wonder if anybody on these forums has actually paid for an OS before.

I have
I actually own a copy of NT heh
betcha think I've really lost it now huh

 

[Wij]

buy a replacement then :/