Wii U

[Embattle]

Retailers are just going to set a high price not to get caught out with pre order advertising.

 

[Chronictank]

I still have mine, it's a very nice silent DVD player.

lol me too, and iplayer on the family tv

 

[MYstIC G]

Ah, PS3 for iPlayer in the Lounge at mine, lol!

 

[DaGaffer]

Preorder pricing from Zavvi and a few other retailers, alot of people in the trade seem to think 349 is nearer the price it will launch at though. Will know more when they release details on CPU/GPU/Memory, until then it just guesswork based of the horsepower Nintendo says it has and factoring in the cost of the tablet controller. Oh and remembering that Nintendo will not be launching the hardware as a loss leader.

That price is a total guess; the likes of The Hut (Zavvi) always do that, because Nintendo in particular never give retailers info until the last minute.

I don't really know what to make of this as a console, but one thing I've learned is never bet against Nintendo, lots of their "stupid ideas" have borne fruit over the years, including Wii itself which was written off at the start on the grounds of shit name/stupid controllers/"last gen" graphics. (And yes I know Ninty have had their share of clunkers as well).

 

[cHodAX]

DailyTech - Report: Proprietary Disc Format, AMD GPU Found in New Wii U

More horsepower than the GPU in 360 or PS3, considerably more infact and still cheap as chips to make at 32nm. Good move by Nintendo, now lets see what direction they go with CPU and memory.

 

[Yaka]

it wont by anything thats gona cost em much, after n64 nintys will never make a loss on a console again

 

[cHodAX]

DailyTech - Nintendo Wii U: No DVD or Blu-ray Playback for You!

 

[MYstIC G]

Well, that's put me right off then.

Wii + Homebrew = DVD Playback =

 

[cHodAX]

It is weird, the licence fee for including DVD playback is about a quid these days, the Blu-Ray licence adds about a fiver iirc. Why would you not just add that extra £6 to the price, appeal to a broader range of customers who want an all-in-one box? Fuck me the Japanese are strange.

 

[MYstIC G]

I don't understand why you wouldn't sell it as a fucking downloadable program.

 

[Yaka]

fee is peanuts today, paying someone to create play back software is not, tho they should makes it a doanloadble program or something, one less reasion for someone to hack it

also just wondering would ati need to be paid as well if ninty say offered a media player app to buy? thier ageement wouldnt cover multimedia use would it?

 

[cHodAX]

fee is peanuts today, paying someone to create play back software is not, tho they should makes it a doanloadble program or something, one less reasion for someone to hack it

also just wondering would ati need to be paid as well if ninty say offered a media player app to buy? thier ageement wouldnt cover multimedia use would it?

Nah, even to pay someone to develop a media player, couple of million tops. They could make that back by charging £2 a copy online. As for ATi, they are paid a fix fee for design, chip fab is done elsewhere. The licence fee might be higher but still, definately not prohibitive.

 

[MYstIC G]

The fact the Japs will get it is what fucking grinds.

 

[Ch3tan]

Erm - I wouldn't pay £2, and I'm guessing more wouldn't than would. Ninty aren't gaurenteed to make their cash back.

I have a DVD player, it's a very good one. I don't need a second rate one in a console.

TBH, Ninty are pretty much spot on here, there are too many DVD enabled devices in the average home as it is.

 

[MYstIC G]

You're also an AV enthusiast, so of course it wouldn't apply to you dude.

 

[Ch3tan]

The DVD player downstairs isn't fantastic though, it's a free Tosh one. It does however have optical and coaxial out, something the wii does not.

People aren't going to suddenly get rid of their old DVD players and pay to use their wii as one.

 

[MYstIC G]

Absolutely. I think it's a perfect "Kids room" DVD player setup though. As was the Wii. I don't think the software would have cost Nintendo that much to do either as others have figured it out and released it freely.

I've got my Wii hooked in upstairs and in reality it's just "ok" but it saves buying another cheapo DVD player and using another power socket, etc, etc.

 

[ST^]

The only things under my TV that plays DVDs is my PS3. If I plan to buy only one console next generation, it can't be a Nintendo one because I won't have a DVD player once my PS3 is put away.

I'm not that interested in the controller concept anyway, but this really writes them out of the race for my cash already.

 

[cHodAX]

The only things under my TV that plays DVDs is my PS3. If I plan to buy only one console next generation, it can't be a Nintendo one because I won't have a DVD player once my PS3 is put away.

I'm not that interested in the controller concept anyway, but this really writes them out of the race for my cash already.

That is quite risky bud, the failure rate on PS3 Blu-ray drives is pretty high, especially on the earlier models. Personally I wouldn't risk it just to play DVD's because if the drives goes there is no way to replace it.

 

[ST^]

That is quite risky bud, the failure rate on PS3 Blu-ray drives is pretty high, especially on the earlier models. Personally I wouldn't risk it just to play DVD's because if the drives goes there is no way to replace it.

What, Sony can't replace a blu-ray drive? I don't understand what you're saying.

 

[cHodAX]

What, Sony can't replace a blu-ray drive? I don't understand what you're saying.

If the machine is out of warranty you are looking at the price of a new console for Sony to replace the broken drive.

 

[Wazzerphuk]

SOGA their arses.

Also, to me it just seems that Nintendo are remaining to keep distance between them and Sony/MS by offering a different product. If they include drives for DVDs/Blu-Rays their machine becomes instantly more comparable to the other, more capable systems, and people will be encouraged to buy Sony or MS as they'll do the same kind of things but with a much higher quality gaming content.

 

[cHodAX]

SOGA their arses.

Also, to me it just seems that Nintendo are remaining to keep distance between them and Sony/MS by offering a different product. If they include drives for DVDs/Blu-Rays their machine becomes instantly more comparable to the other, more capable systems, and people will be encouraged to buy Sony or MS as they'll do the same kind of things but with a much higher quality gaming content.

I think Nintedo will always do well just because of their first party stuff, having a new type of controller will help too and as long as it is visually more capable than PS3/X360 (which it will be) then I think the machine has a good chance of hanging on to some of that marketshare. Adding media functionality will only increase those chances, it certainly won't harm them.