Why albion Allways sucks in RvR?

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Gordonax

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There are lots of reasons why 1fg to 1fg Albion has some disadvantages compared to Mids and Hibs. However, sometimes Albs do themselves no favours.

Yesterday I spent half the afternoon and early evening in Hib land, passing through Emain and into the soft underbelly beyond so I could gank a few XP'ers (hey, they'll grow up to gank me, I'm getting my revenge in advance). It took a couple of goes to get through AMG alive, as there was a group of Mids (2fg or so) camping the gate or roaming around it, followed by a similar group of Hibs later on. I'm good at getting through gates - I've had plenty of practice - and I was waiting for the all-important SoS before chancing it. But, despite the fact that plenty of people had yelled at atk about amg being camped by 2fg, something that was also announced on the cg, over and over again little groups of Albs, often less than a full group, would head out and two minutes later they'd be killed.

Have we got so obsessed with not being seen to zerg that we won't ever wait for 2fg to form up to deal with 2fg of gate campers? It was just stupid.
 

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[NO]Subedai said:
the best alb grp around atm is FC or those grps made up of AD/FC etc. i think bob will be good with their debuff grp, but the rest come no where near to competing to any of the good hib/mid grps.

U do realise how many people you have Insulted here, albeit in a conceited manner. Especially the part, where u say "but the rest come no where near to ". keep it up Subedai, and u will become Midgard's Krane.
 

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RvR on Excal is pretty crap atm, Odin's used to be solo or duo heaven, always a good fight, now its zerged by 3fg low rr hibs every night, soloing used to be fun in HW too but now hardly anything happens in HW, now its zerg or be zerged. zerging is pointless if only farming RPs, if ya gonna zerg do something constructive like take a keep instead of wandering around emain going backwards and forwards from amg to mmg and back. its shocking how many albs dont know their way around frontier zones, especially their own!!
nowadays only fun RvR on Excal is taking keeps and defending keeps, if i want to farm RPs i just play on Camlann, much more fun and always action there, and NO zergs :cheers:
 

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Clipse said:
U do realise how many people you have Insulted here, albeit in a conceited manner.
And? Most folks are still too busy laughing at Subedai's excuses for rerolling ;)

They were 'bored', thats right. Thats why they rerolled to do 3 months more TOA PvE since its such fun :p
 

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Draylor said:
And? Most folks are still too busy laughing at Subedai's excuses for rerolling ;)

They were 'bored', thats right. Thats why they rerolled to do 3 months more TOA PvE since its such fun :p
Hahahahah that still cracks me up.... :cheers:
 

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Dordanov said:
or there are dozens of shrooms at amg that even kill you before you have time to run through
need to plan to go thru in that case - shroomz are mezzable - and must be mezzed in a situation like that. the other option is aoe nukes but due to thier insane hp it can take sometime to kill them :eek7:

and ofc while u kill them the fop'd animist is building a new field somewhere... mezz shroomz ftw.
 

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Hmmm, well most un-decent people join albion :p.
Not a flame as there's a bunch of clueless weirdos in all 3 realms, alb just has a major part of them ;>

You got the zerg at least.
 

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dont blame the hibs camping amg in odins, after all its mostly the alb zerg in emain that makes them go there ;)
 

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Hope NF will change this a bit... really

Crossing finger to have more fun in NF. Blesed god we had DF las night... wooohooo... Just some really fun down there. Its sad to get so much happyness in such a basic thing like that, but at last got some fun in the last 2 moths. :cheers:
 

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vintervargen said:
dont blame the hibs camping amg in odins, after all its mostly the alb zerg in emain that makes them go there ;)

It could be said in different order too.


And roll on NF already. Mushrooms with 60% less hps would take about 2 nukes to die?! :clap: :clap: :clap:
 

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Tinyheals said:
Herbal

No relicraids until what.. September, October mayhaps?

and what you see on us does not reflec eu, or excalibur.
I think this wont change very much, we'll see, but dont bring your hope
with a patch. That is not going to change the attitude of the players.
please herbal go take the str relics now, we want more albs in emain

So you can alarmclock them again? No thanks :)
 

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eggy said:
Several FGs roaming in Odins at 7pm last night, so we went and farmed them. Got quiet, so went brefine, farmed that for a bit. Bit more emain til few members had to log, then back to Odins which had 3fg+ hibs camping AMG

:eek7:

I think Beeks just wanted to xp in brefine :D
 

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its more like 1month pve, we nearly done with toa :D really is alot faster second time round.
dont really care what u think about us rerolling, but the reasons we state are true.

the main reason alb is weaker is cuz fundamentally weak things with alb that have been there for ages, too many classes etc. the fact that alb ahrdly ever have relics doesnt help this.

NF may balance out things with alb having a more equal share of the relics and add to this the greater extablishment of alb debuff grps they may find them selves on a more level playing field.
 

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[NO]Subedai said:
its more like 1month pve, we nearly done with toa :D really is alot faster second time round.
dont really care what u think about us rerolling, but the reasons we state are true.

the main reason alb is weaker is cuz fundamentally weak things with alb that have been there for ages, too many classes etc. the fact that alb ahrdly ever have relics doesnt help this.

NF may balance out things with alb having a more equal share of the relics and add to this the greater extablishment of alb debuff grps they may find them selves on a more level playing field.

TBH there is only magmatic who ive seen give the real reason why you re rolled and that was to farm the Warder Zerg. Personally, im kinda glad you re rolled, as 8 less ego's in alb is a good thing
 

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Zero respect for anyone moving for the easy option.

Alb, as someone stated above, is the most fun simply because of the challange. I would hate to win 90%+ of fights, how dull. Much more fun playing well and wiping out a RR8-10 grp of hibs.
 

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[NO]Subedai said:
dont really care what u think about us rerolling
Im sure, thats why you reply to anyone that laughs at the FotM rerolls to Mid very quickly :)
 

[NO]Subedai

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my job is very boring and combine that wil the allure of the internet it creates rather rapid responces :p
 

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Im bored. Flamebait not working. Bah, next thing Ill actually be doing some work.

Save meeeeee, pleaseeeeeeeeeeee!
 

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I know from playing other online games that things like Ventrillo work well, and I know some top guilds already use this, maybe partly due to their success this enhances RvR experience for those guilds.

There is no 'easy' realm, anyone who thinks that is just stupid.


I for one struggle to find time to farm these artifacts everyone thinks are required tobe 'uber' to overcome your enemys, I believe I can still have fun in RvR without these nice items, which if I were in a RvR orientated guild, they would play a part to a degree, but in a nice freindly large sized guild, who enjoy both PvE and RvR, I don't find it matters much to me.

You put team work and effort into your guilds, you will be a successful guild, by this I mean playing with the same people, but in doing this sometimes you single out those who also enjoy RvR aswell, because maybe their class doesnt fit into your group style, or they arent on enough, and when they do come on, they whine becuase they don't get a group .. hmmm :) I'd hate to be a GM.

There are some who say Albion has the nicest group setup, there are just so few RvR guilds that use this group setup well and succeed.

I also don't see why people whine so much about alb so much, when rvr is 100% luck based anyway in my opinion.

Just stop the whine, and stop blaming all your deaths in RvR on radar and not your own self for being piss poor at playing a point and click game :x
 

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I also don't see why people whine so much about alb so much, when rvr is 100% luck based anyway in my opinion.

that i really cant understand......

imho class's,gear,time spent >>> skillz ..

but saying RvR is luck it far out imho
 

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Theres a element of luck, but thats just like everything else in life.
Good gear,good setup help yes
Switched on ppl is what u need more then anything imo.
Experience, ppl that know which targets to go for first, which enemies are castin which spells, what to do in certain situations, when to purge and when not to purge :) the list goes on.
I stopped playing in rog groups long ago, what i found worked for me, i got to know other ppl who were like the above and when it came to form a non guild grp i looked for those to join in a group or make a group with.

Voice Comms! u would be amazed (those that dont use them) how much this will improve a group. We rarely use in game chat these days, always Teamspeak.
 

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there is a liddle luck involved in rVr :D and skillz tho :D especially, like if u beat 2fg. arts like Scalars are esential. and tbh there is no reason why casual players cant have some arts lvled to 10.:D
 

[NO]Subedai

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hmmm luck. ye thers a bit of it i guess but bad luck and good luck even its self out.
 

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eggy said:
Zero respect for anyone moving for the easy option.

Alb, as someone stated above, is the most fun simply because of the challange. I would hate to win 90%+ of fights, how dull. Much more fun playing well and wiping out a RR8-10 grp of hibs.

The first statement is true: anyone leaving somewhere where it's a hard fight to win to somewhere where it's easier to win fights is just pathetic and weak.

Though the second statement I would challenge. I mean, I don't think you or many other people at all (perhaps 90-95% of people) would mind winning 90%+ of fights, because you feel powerful, you get an ego boost and that's why people play to win. Agreed it's much more fun playing well and wiping out rr8-10 groups, but I still doubt many people would mind winning 90% of the time.
 

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how do you define luck?

Their GP was down? They enemy mezzer thaught he could mez you without insta? The savage had bad luck with quads? SoS was up ? Enemy red resists faded away? Their bb went ld? :m00:
 

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I will define luck, eg, your cleric lags, loses stick, u turn around to pick them up, and bang u get mezzed. Or, you are about to kill a luri in a fg v fg fight, but suddenly an arrow comes from nowhere and hits u in the eye for 850 HPs. The luri was lucky, u were unlucky.
 

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verry true .. m8

1. Albs has always be dont care about relics , they try and give up too fast .

2. we have Big and small guilds.. and No one trying make relic raids offen ..even if they got a BIG alliance

3. Albs has a money problem . all selling ToA items exspensive and make it a big problem for many players to get a Toa suit .

4. Albs is that Realm . that never rezz players in emain when it needed ..some do . AND some never do .. even if they are near dead Albs .

5 . Some players solo in emain , what i can completely understand, but the problem is , they are needed in a Albs groups ..

6. Albs should find 8 friends and setup a good group and play this group forever :wub:
 
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