Who would you follow to defend our realm ?

[Whisperess]

Originally posted by Shike
He's always been there since the day we founded Utopia and still is.

Liar! it was Alchymedes!

Anyway - what would be best for albs? I dunno, don't play alb anymore since I wasn't allowed back into Utopia ( thanks liste! ) - but looking through these boards; if I were an Alb I'd nominate Yussef.

 

[liste]

Liar! it was Alchymedes!

Scary!

Who is this?

 

[Whisperess]

Originally posted by liste
Scary!

Who is this?

Muahahaha

Let's see - let's count original guild group-members from the start.

Orlando ( Shike )
Zoelin
Alchymedes ( Liste )
Hexia ( Ziera )
Owan
oh and Decard was with us for a bit

hmm, there's one missing

I have a nice screenie of you here in a purple dress with a matching blue cloak when we invited Ezeine to the guild.

 

[sru]

Originally posted by Addlcove
Laird
Salazzar
Liste(s)

other persons I´d follow into battle in a split second would be

Shaeffer
Ziera
Graham
Faderullan
Rachey/Colby

could probably think of mroe but these are off the top of my head

I would add thunderthighs to that also. Plus Roalith

 

[Addlcove]

Originally posted by sru
I would add thunderthighs to that also. Plus Roalith

forgot about Roalith, my mistake

and Salazzar= Thunderthighs

 

[Pixie.Pebr]

I'd be prepared to follow anyone to hell and (hopefully) back once, as long as they are genuienly trying.
Anyone who steps up and tries to lead during a defence or who plan and execute an attack deserve that one chance.

To lead means someone has to follow.
To follow means someone need to lead.
If either of the two do not do their part, both will fail.

The problem Albion is facing is not a lack of leaders, but in fact too many.
Too many in the sense that some seem to have a hard time leaning back and taking orders, even when it is agreed on who is calling the shots this time.
Granted, some people who have been leading raids/defences have been making some large misstakes, but by trying to do a coup in the cg the only thing achieved is disorganization.

That's the message I've been hammering in in the past when the Templars have gone out; "Save the critique for after and don't hold back then, but now you're supposed to do what you are told."

It's not like we are entrenched on the East Front and a bad order will lead to you ending up holding your intestines in front of you wondering what the hell you are doing here (or, possibly, just screaming).

Rant over.

 

[old.Gombur Glodson]

Nilo

 

[shanks]

Fetstryk!

You albs have no idea how to unite a realm under fear! <evil laughter>

 

[old.Gombur Glodson]

Cause the albs is a realm not under fear?

 

[Darkhawk]

imo , i will follow anyone brave enough to step forward and take charge. Thats when you need a good leader not when everything is going as planned but when you are up against it and cant see away out.

 

[ilum]

Originally posted by Pixie.Pebr
I'd be prepared to follow anyone to hell and (hopefully) back once, as long as they are genuienly trying.
Anyone who steps up and tries to lead during a defence or who plan and execute an attack deserve that one chance.

To lead means someone has to follow.
To follow means someone need to lead.
If either of the two do not do their part, both will fail.

The problem Albion is facing is not a lack of leaders, but in fact too many.
Too many in the sense that some seem to have a hard time leaning back and taking orders, even when it is agreed on who is calling the shots this time.
Granted, some people who have been leading raids/defences have been making some large misstakes, but by trying to do a coup in the cg the only thing achieved is disorganization.

That's the message I've been hammering in in the past when the Templars have gone out; "Save the critique for after and don't hold back then, but now you're supposed to do what you are told."

It's not like we are entrenched on the East Front and a bad order will lead to you ending up holding your intestines in front of you wondering what the hell you are doing here (or, possibly, just screaming).

Rant over.

It's all true.

One suggestion tho: In the future, after defenses/offenses are over, dont leave CG, but have a discussion what went right/wrong, and then come with input to the leader on what he did right/wrong etc. And whether he's suited to lead again.

 

[shanks]

Originally posted by old.Gombur Glodson
Cause the albs is a realm not under fear?

Unite them by fear rather. If you turn off your everything mid players says is a negative remark about alb mode and read it again im sure you'll get it. (hint read ffa threads on mid section)

 

[the_smurflord]

I think this question needs to be turned around.
Who is prepared to be led?

I'll personally follow anyone who's competant and organised (except Flesh of course).

The main problems are not the leaders of the raids, but more often individual guilds and groups not following the instructions.

 

[ilum]

Originally posted by the_smurflord
I think this question needs to be turned around.
Who is prepared to be led?

I'll personally follow anyone who's competant and organised (except Flesh of course).

The main problems are not the leaders of the raids, but more often individual guilds and groups not following the instructions.

Actually, some times the problem are the leaders too. And yes, I admit on Saturday I was in a group and we were pretty much doing what we felt was needed at the moment. So we got a few more with us and instead of camping Excal we retook Berks, then Boldiam, then Berks again and then the main force joined us and retook Renaris.

 

[Coren]

The main problem is that people feel like they need someone to tell them what to do instead of just doing what's best. :E

 

[old.Gombur Glodson]

Originally posted by shanks
If you turn off your everything mid players says is a negative remark about alb mode and read it again im sure you'll get it. (hint read ffa threads on mid section)

If I turn off my everything mid players says is a negative remark about alb mode?

Lay off the weed, please.

 

[Master_de_roos]

Im quite willing to follow anyone who is willing to have a stab at getting people moving in the right direction, and it helps awfully, as Liste says, if that person is someone who has been elected.

Leadership as far as I can see it can be taken by initiating the defence chat group, in the form of co-ordinating the defence CG upwards.

Leaders of defense are not there to micro-manage tactics, but there to organise the "Big Picture" and ensure that forces are moving together to acheive one aim.

Leadership in this matter is NOT power, but a HUGE responsiblity to your realm mates to ensure they are, by planning and action, given the best fighting chance to slaughter the enemies of the realm like the dogs they are.

One thing I would say, is let the folk of the realm hear your voice in action.../y away.

Encourgement of the fighting spirit is worth more than people give it credit for.

CRY VIVE LE ROY for Albion!

 

[Tesla Monkor]

Follow me!

 

[chretien]

Originally posted by Master_de_roos
Im quite willing to follow anyone who is willing to have a stab at getting people moving in the right direction, and it helps awfully, as Liste says, if that person is someone who has been elected.

Leadership as far as I can see it can be taken by initiating the defence chat group, in the form of co-ordinating the defence CG upwards.

Leaders of defense are not there to micro-manage tactics, but there to organise the "Big Picture" and ensure that forces are moving together to acheive one aim.

Leadership in this matter is NOT power, but a HUGE responsiblity to your realm mates to ensure they are, by planning and action, given the best fighting chance to slaughter the enemies of the realm like the dogs they are.

One thing I would say, is let the folk of the realm hear your voice in action.../y away.

Encourgement of the fighting spirit is worth more than people give it credit for.

CRY VIVE LE ROY for Albion!

Who's Roy?
Which alliance is he in?

 

[Master_de_roos]

He who was the late ruler of this realme, Arthur, Kyng of Albion.

The alliance? I would hope that was the whole of Albion, but I am an eternal optimist <grins>.

 

[Shike]

Originally posted by liste
Scary!

Who is this?

Turgor!

and ye Whisperess, wasnt "Liste" alias "Listepik", was alchymedes so I guess I stand corrected, I still think blood from Q3A was better though (namewise)

old stuff...

 

[Whisperess]

Originally posted by Shike
Turgor!

and ye Whisperess, wasnt "Liste" alias "Listepik", was alchymedes so I guess I stand corrected, I still think blood from Q3A was better though (namewise)

old stuff...

sure is old, eh Orlando?

 

[Shike]

Originally posted by Whisperess
sure is old, eh Orlando?

yip yip

 

[liste]

reminds me of High School Reunions

 

[Dimse]

I would follow the Leader of the raid. I dont care who does the leading, as long as he/she/it gives clear commands, has the ram issue ( ram issue= Who has the rams and who uses on what doors) settled before they leave albion and isnt a total twit.




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A small note to future raid leaders: If you dont invite Uranicus Phalanx, they wont show. Im tired of my guild being treated as some 3rd rate guild that is kindly granted the right to supply rams.

 

[old.drac]

mm

Laird, Liste, Pyro, Salazzar, Roalith, Vae, yussef...in no particular order.
therer are quite a few others but these are the ones that spring to mind.
saying that, whoever had the lead i would follow, its the only way any new leaders will gain experience.
imo nothing is worse than a prima donna who thinks they know better and tries to take control all of the time, nothing annoys me more than being in a cg and seeing 10 different people giving orders and seeing the command split 10 different ways.

suggestions from experienced leaders is fine, trying to take command is just plain wrong.


oh and Nilo

 

[inertia]

Gotta be careful picking a leader tbh. I was on one of my mid/excal chars recently when albs did a very organized massive keep take/relic door bashing (mids had no relics at the time). Mids were running out by the FG only to get holy wtfpwned. Talk in the cg was wether to gather a defense zerg, or go bust up Renaris to scare them home to defend.

At some point, all talk in the cg turned to this subject:

"Don't suppose ardamel is inc?"
"We need Ardamel!"
" Ardamel Ardamel Ardamel!!1one!"

Ect.

Now that I think of it, I have myself been known to do a /who laird or /who vayasen in times of need. But the point is, if your realm is only capable of defending itself providing one of 2-3 people are online, you're in trouble

Originally posted by darzil
On the having Rams (& Trebuchet's) handy thing, I'm always amazed how difficult it seems to be for people to get a few Rams together.

Invite UP to raid in advance, problem solved. Most albs know this by now. There's a reason Conoor's lastname is McRam =p

Speaking of Conoor, couple people named him.. I belive he can lead, and lead well if need be, but (and I'm not speaking for him, this is just a guess from knowing him pretty well), I think he'd prefer to just be put in charge of making sure the doors go down

Lastly, my own personal list would have Laird, Ilum, Liste, Roalith, Shaeffer, Vae, and possibly even Soulfly, assuming he could be dragged out of Sidi.

Edit: I should add Yussef to that list, shouldn't I?