who wins 1 on 1

[sigh]

Originally posted by Cloak_
Defensive Pally >> All

= pointless

 

[talivarevil]

hehe thana try cori

 

[Cloak_]

Originally posted by sigh
= pointless

Pointless because ?

 

[gwal]

Originally posted by Cloak_
Pointless because ?

cause ur statement is wrong?

 

[sigh]

I assume when your talking about defensive, you mean high parry and shield?

anyways, as gwal pointed.

 

[old.Icebreaker]

Originally posted by gwal
casue ur statement is wrong?

Yea because me > all

 

[old.Nol]

Originally posted by Kallio
What about chanter vs. Champ?

QC stun, then debuff heat + nuke nuke nuke nuke... Not to forget the annyoing pet that also nukes

:edit: oh, and a shammy is also stron solo. Have to have ichor and purge up though.

or QC stun nu...WTF SPRINT SPRINT SPRINT!

 

[Cloak_]

Originally posted by gwal
cause ur statement is wrong?

Then you must suck

and Sigh, this is just my opinion - wether its correct or not. If you dont like it dont bother fukin replying? and instead post your opinion?

 

[ab_fluid]

Originally posted by sigh
I assume when your talking about defensive, you mean high parry and shield?

anyways, as gwal pointed.

i fink he meant 42 shield spec high chants as opposed to ubah leet 502hand

 

[Cloak_]

Yea Alu,

Smth similar to:

42 Shield (higher RR = MoB3 or so)
48 Chants (last AF chant)
39 Slash
15 Parry (with possibly MoP also)

I think anyway :x

 

[hotrat]

hmm a matter spec caba could kill pretty much any other class. Nearsight vs any other caster, stick pet on, dot from range. Any assasin will beat a caster though if all ra's are up.

It gets very difficult if you add ra's, I dont see many things beating a spirit/body caba with MoC/purge up mind you.

 

[ab_fluid]

Originally posted by hotrat
hmm a matter spec caba could kill pretty much any other class. Nearsight vs any other caster, stick pet on, dot from range. Any assasin will beat a caster though if all ra's are up.

It gets very difficult if you add ra's, I dont see many things beating a spirit/body caba with MoC/purge up mind you.

just run away when they moc ^^ any char with end can beat a caster like that, eg a bard should kill 1 easily

 

[hotrat]

Originally posted by ab_fluid
just run away when they moc ^^ any char with end can beat a caster like that, eg a bard should kill 1 easily

Don't forget cabalist has a pet with a disease that procs after about 2 or 3 secs of it being in melee.

Also run away from a caba doing 500 dmg every 1.2 sec? ok

Edit: ops unbuffed caba will tap every 2.5 sec for around 400.

 

[ab_fluid]

Originally posted by hotrat
Don't forget cabalist has a pet with a disease that procs after about 2 or 3 secs of it being in melee.

Also run away from a caba doing 500 dmg every 1.2 sec? ok

Edit: ops unbuffed caba will tap every 2.5 sec for around 400.

why would a bard go into melee with the cabby and they can mezz the pet too, then just lull, dd osv until cabby drops, will only take 5 or so dd's for an unbuffed cabby. Overall i don't fink its possible to name 1 class that will always win 1 on 1 as theres always a class that can beat another class with relative ease

 

[sigh]

Originally posted by Cloak_
:

42 Shield (higher RR = MoB3 or so)
48 Chants (last AF chant)
39 Slash
15 Parry (with possibly MoP also)

great for duels, not so good for rvr, that was my point.

wasnt being rude or anything.

 

[Garbannoch Nox]

Originally posted by hotrat
hmm a matter spec caba could kill pretty much any other class. Nearsight vs any other caster, stick pet on, dot from range. Any assasin will beat a caster though if all ra's are up.

It gets very difficult if you add ra's, I dont see many things beating a spirit/body caba with MoC/purge up mind you.

light elds are very effective for soloing: aoe mez (for enemies + pets), nearsight (against mages or anyone with ranged interrupts), dex/qui debuff (against mages, healer types and most tanks), light spec dd (209.7 delve value dd), baseline stun, disease from mana line and much more... hmm think i respec

 

[andruril]

rr5+ infiltrator vs equal RR anything (50dw spec + 21 cs)

if IP comes into the question, then ofc it changes things

 

[Arnor]

Originally posted by Divinia
another one who think chanterstun = 9 sec ubah fubah hippie hey!

on a chimp, with 26% resists it IS pretty long, fucks sake

 

[Arnor]

Originally posted by andruril
rr5+ infiltrator vs equal RR anything (50dw spec + 21 cs)

if IP comes into the question, then ofc it changes things

a good kiting mercfil can kill everything 1v1 i reckon

 

[NightyP]

Reaver can kill anything, any hybrid can

 

[piggeman]

Fully buffed BD >> Fully buffed Necro

 

[etcetra]

Thane > all imo :§

 

[belth]

Originally posted by piggeman
Fully buffed BD >> Fully buffed Necro

Quite a bit more expensive, those pets sure like multiple buffbots xD

 

[kirennia]

Smite clerics are fantastic in duels..
no.......i said no.......stop laughing at me...

I remember before when kirennia was smite specced (after the nerf) beating 15 lvl 50 SC'ed tanks in a row in duels before a armsman got lucky because i healed him by mistake....lol

I'm rej/enh now tho so it's less fun

Just ask gunnerr about mine and his duel ^^

 

[gwal]

Originally posted by Cloak_
Then you must suck

and Sigh, this is just my opinion - wether its correct or not. If you dont like it dont bother fukin replying? and instead post your opinion?

if you dont like it, dont fucking reply???

wtf u on dude... not like ppl are insulting u, yet ur moode turn worse than a savage kobbie on steroids. its said ur statement was wrong.

and yeah, I truly must suck, my fotm, paladin cant possibly gain me any insight, cause I certainly dont know what I´m talking about since I dont agree with u...

now go out and duel a kobold h2h savage who has ip and purge up, then come back, and post again dummy

 

[Cloak_]

Originally posted by gwal
if you dont like it, dont fucking reply???

wtf u on dude... not like ppl are insulting u, yet ur moode turn worse than a savage kobbie on steroids. its said ur statement was wrong.

and yeah, I truly must suck, my fotm, paladin cant possibly gain me any insight, cause I certainly dont know what I´m talking about since I dont agree with u...

now go out and duel a kobold h2h savage who has ip and purge up, then come back, and post again dummy

but 2h palla sux

 

[Lessurl]

Originally posted by hotrat
hmm a matter spec caba could kill pretty much any other class. Nearsight vs any other caster, stick pet on, dot from range. Any assasin will beat a caster though if all ra's are up.

It gets very difficult if you add ra's, I dont see many things beating a spirit/body caba with MoC/purge up mind you.

Nat/reg druid with MoC/group purge/raging power up. Root pet, dot cabba, MoC and spam heals on yourself when cabba MoC's and nukes then when both MoC run out you melee em down with your pets help. (+ 2 insta heals if you can't spam heals fast enough/cabba gets a few nasty qc nukes on after MoC)

 

[Lessurl]

Anyway, after reading some more i don't think champion would beat everything if there was some big classvclass tournament.
I think there's more of a rock/paper/scissors type thing going on (though a bit more complex). Some classes/specs will easily take out some others though would have a problem with a few aswell.
The winner of a big class/spec tournament would most likely be the one who was lucky enough not to come up against any of the classes it was weak against during the tournament.
I.e. as with a lot of things in DaoC, winner of tourny would be mostly down to luck.

 

[Pin]

Originally posted by Cloak_
but 2h palla sux

errrrr... he's not saying anything about 2h paladins. he's saying that a defensive paladin is not better than everyone else and can be beaten by several different classes out there.

 

[Cloak_]

Originally posted by Pin
errrrr... he's not saying anything about 2h paladins. he's saying that a defensive paladin is not better than everyone else and can be beaten by several different classes out there.

it was a joke m8 :great: