who wins 1 on 1

[hercules-df]

necro vs bd, both buffed etc.

also pre LA nerf zerker vs Current Savages?

and which class/spec wins a big giant tourney if there was some fair way to duel

 

[AbPoon]

Normally win VS the random Savages, lose vs the good ones (rr6+)

 

[old.anubis]

prenerfed zerk won almost always

unbuffed savages are soso

 

[AbPoon]

Ahhh pre nerf sorry, that was post nerf, pre nerf nearly always nailed them

 

[Cloak_]

Defensive Pally >> All

 

[Lessurl]

I would say a Lw champion is one of the top 1v1 chars in DaoC.
If both are unbuffed i think a champion could kill anything 1v1. Whenever i've lost a 1v1 with my champ it's been down to me messing up (read, drunken key mashing) or lag, never because the class itself wasn't up to the task.
This is just my experience though, and i have come up against unbuffed savages, defensive pallys etc. Though i can't remember if i met a pre-nerf Zerker 1v1 or not.

But anyway, i put my vote with the champion, mostly down to the debuffs which even if unbuffed i meet a buffed opponent still gives me a good chance of victory.

 

[Imon]

prenerfed zerkers pretty much bashed savages to pieces

they still put up a fight tho

 

[Sleet]

Originally posted by Lessurl
I would say a Lw champion is one of the top 1v1 chars in DaoC.

How do champs fair against BMs? i play neither so dont know. LW champ Vs warden, whats that like? i'd imagine lots of misses and a long drawn out duel!
Mages problem Vs champs debuffs & DDs?

 

[Lessurl]

Originally posted by Sleet
How do champs fair against BMs? i play neither so dont know. LW champ Vs warden, whats that like? i'd imagine lots of misses and a long drawn out duel!
Mages problem Vs champs debuffs & DDs?

Bms, LW crush + str/con + dex/qui debuff.
Vs wardens i'd probably switch to 1h/shld.
Mages who MoC might be a problem, but then again once bt is down str/con debuff followed by dd + anytimer would more than half (sometimes kill outright) most mages.

 

[Kallio]

What about chanter vs. Champ?

QC stun, then debuff heat + nuke nuke nuke nuke... Not to forget the annyoing pet that also nukes

:edit: oh, and a shammy is also stron solo. Have to have ichor and purge up though.

 

[Kindar]

Originally posted by hercules-df
necro vs bd, both buffed etc.

also pre LA nerf zerker vs Current Savages?

and which class/spec wins a big giant tourney if there was some fair way to duel

Not sure...i think the necro will win since he got powertap (with death sight spec?) Bd can't kill necro fast enough...still in doubt when he got 2 -3 healers.

Pre zerkers mostly killed savages everytime.

Best 1-vs-1 class? Thrust specced Infil maybe?

 

[Lessurl]

Originally posted by Kallio
What about chanter vs. Champ?

QC stun, then debuff heat + nuke nuke nuke nuke... Not to forget the annyoing pet that also nukes

True, but a decent rr champ would have purge for the stun, those pets have a tendency to melee once damaged once (insta dd ) then again if chanter has MoC it's down to how fast the champ can drop them after str/con debuff. Would be close i think but champ would also have IP.

 

[boni_ofdavoid]

Originally posted by Lessurl
True, but a decent rr champ would have purge for the stun, those pets have a tendency to melee once damaged once (insta dd ) then again if chanter has MoC it's down to how fast the champ can drop them after str/con debuff. Would be close i think but champ would also have IP.

well if you can use items, charges, ras etc. Then I vote hybrid hero vs champ any day.

moose+ip = far more hit points than you can get through.
purge for your debuffs.

Ive also noticed a lot of champ abilities (selfbuff, str/con debuff, dd) can be replicated with items. You cant get moose, pf, or detV from items...

 

[Divinia]

Originally posted by Kallio
What about chanter vs. Champ?

QC stun, then debuff heat + nuke nuke nuke nuke... Not to forget the annyoing pet that also nukes

:edit: oh, and a shammy is also stron solo. Have to have ichor and purge up though.

another one who think chanterstun = 9 sec ubah fubah hippie hey!

 

[Gregstah]

Imo Highlander Minstrel > All ofc only if u could use RA's and stuff

they got ip, purge, ap, shit loads of hits, insta stunn, 2 dd's, sos, mezz, ablatives etc etc

they got like 2½ life it would be very hard 2 kill a high rr good playing mincer

thats my opinion

 

[Ckiller ofDust]

Defensive high rr pally>>>> anything fighter class

its like killing 3-4 ppl.. 2 instas and healind itself for round 100hp every round and havin close to 1000AF

But then again pallys pay for that by beein truly sucky in big time RVR and often just end up as a End hoe

 

[Ilur_oom]

my cleric >> all

 

[old.Thanatlos]

Originally posted by Ckiller ofDust
Defensive high rr pally>>>> anything fighter class

Until you meet a defensive high rr warden who has 60+ effective parry, ablative procing sword and a big heal proc on his hauberk that gets enhanced by his wild healing 3 and mastery of healing 2.

Then it's just a matter of who has the most patience, because after 2 hours of bashing they should both be at about 50% health

 

[plastic_angel]

Aug healer with self buffs are very nice duelists, (49aug rest mend spec)

But now to the topic, I think pre-nerf zerks would probably win over a savage, but it also depends on who plays the char

 

[Ckiller ofDust]

Originally posted by old.Thanatlos
Until you meet a defensive high rr warden who has 60+ effective parry, ablative procing sword and a big heal proc on his hauberk that gets enhanced by his wild healing 3 and mastery of healing 2.

Then it's just a matter of who has the most patience, because after 2 hours of bashing they should both be at about 50% health

Acctually dont think a warden would gett a pally that low but not sure )

 

[old.Thanatlos]

I hit plate for about 100 damage with 21 blades (+18) swinging at about every 2-2.5s, but then again, that's IF i hit

 

[Brynn]

Originally posted by Ckiller ofDust
Defensive high rr pally>>>> anything fighter class

I hit like a wet fish. Coz my spec is 50(+14 MoB 2) sheild, Slash 29, chants 46, parry 29.

I can take all classes except a frijah(and some more but it sounds impressive if i leave it as one)

when i solo i usually hit for about ~60-100 damage. which on a buffed opponant is just like scratiching away at them.

I would have rather made a merc for the pure damage output imo.

 

[ab_fluid]

champs r velly easy as warden, can'y say i remember losing to 1 yet, pallies r not too hard, unless they r buffed, all 1h users r pretty easy except reavers if they land slam, all 2h users r just there to laugh at ^^. Tis the dual wielders that trouble pbt chars imo

 

[arrakeen]

Would be fun to see a fight with Defensive pala against defensive warden both With high RR

but how is a defence warden speccede and are there any of them?

 

[old.Thanatlos]

I'm currently speced 38 nurture, 42 regrowth, 21 blades, 26 parry.

This gives me the ability to:
- twist pbt/dmgadd/end regen for about 10 minutes straight without going oom
- have 40% style end usage reduction buff
- have end 4 chant
- have 34% haste
- have 26 parry+18+mop III (62 effective)
- have mob II
- block reactive stun style
- 600ish heals (which is nice with aforementioned stun )
- 15 hp / tick health regen, crappy but helps

Also have Uaimh's Rending Claw,
4.4 dps (nice with 34% haste ) with a 150 ablative proc (again, very nice with haste)

This is in no means a very defensive spec but I think it's far more defensive than most warden specs
And only duels I lose is against people that happen to get long duration stuns in. But I guess everyone has that problem

 

[belth]

Re: Re: who wins 1 on 1

Originally posted by Kindar
Not sure...i think the necro will win since he got powertap (with death sight spec?) Bd can't kill necro fast enough...still in doubt when he got 2 -3 healers.

I'd rather shout-tap the commander and have pet melee BD, hitting commander for 600+ every ~5s kills it faster than the healer pets can keep up It's another matter if the BD gets the jump ofcourse or keeps the pets away from himself.

 

[-Freezingwiz-]

Originally posted by old.Thanatlos
I'm currently speced 38 nurture, 42 regrowth, 21 blades, 26 parry.

This gives me the ability to:
- twist pbt/dmgadd/end regen for about 10 minutes straight without going oom
- have 40% style end usage reduction buff
- have end 4 chant
- have 34% haste
- have 26 parry+18+mop III (62 effective)
- have mob II
- block reactive stun style
- 600ish heals (which is nice with aforementioned stun )
- 15 hp / tick health regen, crappy but helps

Also have Uaimh's Rending Claw,
4.4 dps (nice with 34% haste ) with a 150 ablative proc (again, very nice with haste)

This is in no means a very defensive spec but I think it's far more defensive than most warden specs
And only duels I lose is against people that happen to get long duration stuns in. But I guess everyone has that problem

Mincers kill wardens easy because of DD´s and avalabtive I use a 2.6 spd weap aswell tho....

but normaly the dmg from warden´s melee are almost all absorbed by ablabtive chant, and the DD´s are very effective against wardens since pbt and parry takes a lot of the hits

maybe I only been agains n00bs wadens but I normaly come out of the fight with about 80%+ hp (that is about 12-15 times I´v got a chance to 1 vs 1 with wardens)

 

[talivarevil]

blunt/shield specced class called corialus seems to kill all.Has some kinda dot that procs every hit and gets special u cant hit me RA

 

[old.Thanatlos]

Hmm, I usually beat most mincers, unless they bring orange con pets.. lost with 5% hp left on mincer last time, didn't get any blocks that fight though

And DD's aren't much use with 50%+ resists on most wardens.. (got 51% with only 16% resists)
But I agree, most of the damage done is usually with DD's, wardens have self buffs though so also have more hp (especially with a few levels of toughness, mastery of the arcane and aug con )

Anyway, I have no problems dueling anyone
Won't say I'll win but it'll be interesting fights anyway!

 

[old.Thanatlos]

Anyway talivar is evul when buffed, got like 2 hits I think before he killed me after a 10 sec stun lol