Who is like the Terminator to fight?!!

[islef]

From a fotm valk PoV the hardest are: Cynith, Sacre, and some reaver that i cannot remember the name of, pink/purple'ish armour, and rr5 or 6.. not really had the chance to fight too many of the other "legends" so cant say much about those.

Almost forgot Habemus, had some really nice figths against him, only won once i think, but many other ended very close wich is just as nice.

To round it up, the only of those mentioned that is truly like terminator is cynith the warden, next to impossible to hit him with a valk, even when he dont use shears he block so much that when i get thru once in a blue moon... bubble is back up

 

[Congax]

GEt rid of those flowers and get TD as well.

Why don't you just let him decide how to play his class?

 

[censi]

u aint gotta do ten laps of crau chasing the fooka! Id rather he kill me, hence advice.

but tactically theres weapons that give better DPS than flowers.

 

[Saje]

Do grow up, this thread asked a question, I answered it, no whining involved, go troll somewhere else.

I am all grown up thank you very much. I'm just tired of ur endless whine about Wardens. I remember first time i stepped into the solo scene on my warden, i was very intimidated by meeting you. Jumping in my chair the full 1-2 mins the fight lasted. I'm sorry you didnt feel the same way(even tho you won the fight) but i guess 2-3 swings=>dead is what makes your day.

 

[whinersmincer]

All as killed me after i have all chambers down and no power left you have never killed me 1v1 not that i can recall? lol don't even no ya but feel free to jump me any time

dude u hade all ure chambers up and u added on a 1vs1 fight and i still kicked ure ass

 

[Sarumann]

I ownz all

hehe horses for courses

Hero Champ Armsman vamp is a no no for my warlock Any casters Any stealthers i ownz in like 2-3 secs flat Maybe 8 secs if they fz me

Ps...Maybe there are a few more tanks i missed

Sacre Theoden stand out very much

Pip i can remember facing u 3 times on NS and i still think i lead 3-0
Mezzpoisen is a powerful tool

 

[Hawkwind]

Eul, hits like a truck. Only beat him once and that was with all toys up and used SL to get the PA combo in. Score 5-1 to him.

 

[pip]

ok login in meet odins bridge prove ya self gimps

 

[Kagato]

I am all grown up thank you very much. I'm just tired of ur endless whine about Wardens. I remember first time i stepped into the solo scene on my warden, i was very intimidated by meeting you. Jumping in my chair the full 1-2 mins the fight lasted. I'm sorry you didnt feel the same way(even tho you won the fight) but i guess 2-3 swings=>dead is what makes your day.

If I made a thread demanding they nerf wardens etc, then I could fully understand your flaming, however I havent, someone else made a thread asking who 'we', that is, all of us individually, find very difficult to beat.

I responded and said who I find difficult to beat.

Simple as that, no whining, no crying for nerfs, I stated whom I individually find hard to beat.

So wtf is your problem? why the need to act like an asshole about it? Or am I not allowed to respond when someone asks who I find hard to beat?

Personally i'd of been happy if someone said I was difficult to fight, I wouldn't be flaming them for it thats for sure

 

[Saje]

If I made a thread demanding they nerf wardens etc, then I could fully understand your flaming, however I havent, someone else made a thread asking who 'we', that is, all of us individually, find very difficult to beat.

I responded and said who I find difficult to beat.

Simple as that, no whining, no crying for nerfs, I stated whom I individually find hard to beat.

So wtf is your problem? why the need to act like an asshole about it? Or am I not allowed to respond when someone asks who I find hard to beat?

Personally i'd of been happy if someone said I was difficult to fight, I wouldn't be flaming them for it thats for sure

Well I missunderstood you then. You just usually flame wardens for being crap playstylers. Sorry for me going all offensive. You just usually whine about buffstips, traitors, pbt and so on, wich makes me sad because its the only thing i got

 

[Nuxtobatns]

Wardens r v high in the melee food chain tbh. especially after a certain rr (maybe 4-5+). The problem is that they can now spec v high shield and keep the pbt, while having Ignore Pain 3511234 every 45secs. I believe the problem would be diminished if they had the end bonuses they enjoy cut down.

 

[Saje]

Wardens r v high in the melee food chain tbh. especially after a certain rr (maybe 4-5+). The problem is that they can now spec v high shield and keep the pbt, while having Ignore Pain 3511234 every 45secs. I believe the problem would be diminished if they had the end bonuses they enjoy cut down.

Well Wardens problem will always be very low weaponskill. Vs another shield specced class its almost imposible getting a single hit in

 

[Bonehead]

Get Battlewarder, as soon as they stun pet, drop GT under them, and you'll screw em over

Aye, that's what im doing. Also doing it when playing vs slam classes. They slam pet, get in possition for their dmg styles, BW 4tw!

 

[Eithor]

"Well Wardens problem will always be very low weaponskill. Vs another shield specced class its almost imposible getting a single hit in"

Not true, not in this sense anyway: Warden = High dex. Dex=stat/ws for slam. So in other words a warden VERY easily land slam (and got end to keep trying, if it for once would be hard to land it), then shear the enemy thus most often either make the enemies defence less good, or make the enemies offence crap or sometimes both.

So in server with normal ruleset (also know as toa server) the low ws won't matter all that much, especially not since wardens also can spam other BM styles that hit/dmg more than decent.


Looking at the american high rr warden "Monster" (or Monsters) handle 3-5 people their azz BEFORE they got the shieldspecalmost made me cry (but in a good way, fun entertainment ).

Now not same on classic server, on the other side, there the wardens meet unbuffed/low buffed solo classes, so np anyway.

 

[Solari]

"Well Wardens problem will always be very low weaponskill. Vs another shield specced class its almost imposible getting a single hit in"

Not true, not in this sense anyway: Warden = High dex. Dex=stat/ws for slam. So in other words a warden VERY easily land slam (and got end to keep trying, if it for once would be hard to land it), then shear the enemy thus most often either make the enemies defence less good, or make the enemies offence crap or sometimes both.

Wrong..

 

[Eithor]

Burp...

Come on, try again. Why would that be wrong, or do you just think so Solari?
At least try give a reason why you think I'm wrong.

 

[Solari]

Burp...

Come on, try again. Why would that be wrong, or do you just think so Solari?
At least try give a reason why you think I'm wrong.

Having played a solo warden knowing from experience how their slam works...

 

[Eithor]

Having a low ws hybrid myself... With 34sword I know how easy it is to land slam with 340-360+ dex and how very hard it is with say 270 dex(no matter if i have 340 str with 34sword spec, or 50sword spec with 400str).

And it's the same for all classes, Dex is the stat for block, parry and when trying to land shield styles (such as slam and others).

Even better example is my low rr Valkyrie - shieldmaiden, where no str is needed at all for swinging the shield and doing dmg (special low end shield styles etc).

So no you're the one that's wrong

But feel free to explain why you think/feel shield and slam works different for your Warden?

 

[Solari]

Having a low ws hybrid myself... With 34sword I know how easy it is to land slam with 340-360+ dex and how very hard it is with say 270 dex(no matter if i have 340 str with 34sword spec, or 50sword spec with 400str).

And it's the same for all classes, Dex is the stat for block, parry and when trying to land shield styles (such as slam and others).

Even better example is my low rr Valkyrie - shieldmaiden, where no str is needed at all for swinging the shield and doing dmg (special low end shield styles etc).

So no you're the one that's wrong

But feel free to explain why you think/feel shield and slam works different for your Warden?

Roll a Warden, spec 13 weapon and go try, you'll find out you're very very wrong.

 

[Vodkafairy]

1h spec has fuck all to do with slam rate, i have 6+10 pierce on champ and my slam rate is perfectly fine. just ~50ish dex in template with shield, and no +shield skill at all.

scout has 370 dex and 44+14 thrust, 50+14 shield, and there isn't any considerable difference in slam success rate. infact id say its lower on scout then champ, while having more 1h ws.

 

[Eithor]

Had warden on glast, rerolled alb though.
But does a valk with 50shield, 38ow, 36parry, 22mend 9sword work for you?

Dex=shield stat.

 

[Reika]

Ravenbourne gets my vote. Took 2 days worht of life taps before he went down. I wouldn't class casters as terminators even if they all pwn me.

 

[Bonehead]

Ravenbourne gets my vote. Took 2 days worht of life taps before he went down. I wouldn't class casters as terminators even if they all pwn me.

He gets your vote because he's a heavy tank with 20% extra magic resists + fury? What bout all other heavy tanks?

 

[Raven]

ok login in meet odins bridge prove ya self gimps

1v1? any time, problem is you have your back up roglords to help you out all the time

 

[Raven]

Dex=shield stat.

for blocking yes, not for slam chance

 

[Demon2k3]

for blocking yes, not for slam chance

dex=shield ws=slam hit rate.

your chance to hit with slam is based of your shield ws not anything else.

 

[Eithor]

Raven: "for blocking yes, not for slam chance"

You kidding, right? Ofc it's dex, i could give you plenty of reasons, facts. But I'll settle at pasting one of my former answers here:

"But does a valk with 50shield, 38ow, 36parry, 22mend 9sword work for you? Dex=shield stat."

Fully buffed got about 335 dex, 200str (since it's a shieldmaiden and fight mainly with shieldstyles) ws is about 1000-1200 something(don't remember but low as hell with that str and 9sword spec), quite easy to land slam and use shield styles.

 

[pip]

1v1? any time, problem is you have your back up roglords to help you out all the time[/QUOTE Read that quote again

 

[Fuaip]

Burp...

Come on, try again. Why would that be wrong, or do you just think so Solari?
At least try give a reason why you think I'm wrong.

burp is a firby druid, i know that? he shouldnt be that dangerous to you

 

[Eithor]

If no place to hide, I'll eat all kinds of druids