Whine

[old.Spug]

oh, and on a side note, the stones werent as a result of "getting lucky on a lottery" each group that participated received a stone. most groups lotto'd it amongst the group. we didnt.

 

[Freia]

Originally posted by old.Spug
I know you weren't expecting a response on this, and were most likely raising the point for the sake of creating an argument over the matter

Yes I was expecting (atleast hoping for) a reply. And I was rasing the point because I was curious how such a bullsh*t comment could be defended tbh.

Well, you challanged me to continue, lets continue then, Blood worked for those gold, it was his gold. You went and won a lottery and won HIS gold.

Respec stones should go to people who really need them, even those who cannot afford them. Respec stones are rare, platina is relatively common.
To ungimp the most gimped players is worth tons more for midgard than bringing up a bunch of new crafters IMO.

You asked for it, and besides this post it's in the original spirit of this thread!

 

[old.Spug]

Originally posted by Freia
Yes I was expecting (atleast hoping for) a reply. And I was rasing the point because I was curious how such a bullsh*t comment could be defended tbh.

bullshit is in the eye of the beholder, I dont feel it's such.

Well, you challanged me to continue, lets continue then, Blood worked for those gold, it was his gold. You went and won a lottery and won HIS gold.

No, as I stated, we didnt win a lottery. the group was given a stone, as one of 45 groups, there were 50 stones. so by your reasoning, we should then have given this away to someone who needed it? why exactly? so they could think about using it after mis-roling their character? how will that benefit the realm? it'll benefit them certainly, but the realm?

Respec stones should go to people who really need them, even those who cannot afford them. Respec stones are rare, platina is relatively common.

Sorry, but I disagree, if someone needs a respec, then they should have to work for it, not be given it.

To ungimp the most gimped players is worth tons more for midgard than bringing up a bunch of new crafters IMO.

So one person gains, and a guild loses, yes, I can see where you're coming from here. Had a guild member needed the stone, it would have gone there. Had one of TR been gimped so badly they needed a respec, then we would have sorted that out, but as no one needed it, we put it to better use, Blood is happy, we're happy.

You asked for it, and besides this post it's in the original spirit of this thread!

I agree I like a good argument as well as the next person, but as always, it comes down to viewpoint. theres no way I'm going to convince you that my viewpoints better than yours, just as theres no way you can convince me that we should have given this stone to someone not known to us.

 

[Farnis]

Originally posted by Freia
Yes I was expecting (atleast hoping for) a reply. And I was rasing the point because I was curious how such a bullsh*t comment could be defended tbh.

Well, you challanged me to continue, lets continue then, Blood worked for those gold, it was his gold. You went and won a lottery and won HIS gold.

Respec stones should go to people who really need them, even those who cannot afford them. Respec stones are rare, platina is relatively common.
To ungimp the most gimped players is worth tons more for midgard than bringing up a bunch of new crafters IMO.

You asked for it, and besides this post it's in the original spirit of this thread!

lol ...and lol again.

Rounding down to the nearest integer - exactly how many sets of standards do you have Freia?

 

[old.Spug]

<waves to Fink>

 

[otho]

How can TR getting more high level crafters help Midgard?

Simple, the more of high skilled crafters there are the more competition there will be, resulting in lower prices. If we as an example only had one legendary armour crafter, that person could demand what ever he wanted by having a monopoly. So in a sense TR have, by adding more high level crafters, reduced the price for crafted items.

/Otho

 

[Jenna.]

Originally posted by zapzap
Iam sure it would have been fair to make it a public auction to the guilds that where at the DR. And Iam sure Roo said stones only to guilds that need it.

I really wonder what Roo meant with that!?

 

[old.Spug]

I dont actually think Roo said that at all but perhaps my memories bad

 

[Aerran Darktyde]

Ok the Facts

TR had one Stone (which members of TR could use)

the stone can be used once and by only one person

So you are telling me that the stone being used is of more value that the stone being used and 7.5plat of money sat in someone inventory is not greater use??

Stone used is greater than Stone Used and 7.5plat of stored money now being used..

If you agree with that statement then you can only be one of the following:

A) A forum Troll

B)Someone suffering from Sour grapes or envy that you or one of your friends did not get to use the ston for yourselves..

C)Someone who dislikes Blood or TR and are just here to cause trouble

D)a sanctimonious self important Moron that enjoys Whining , moaning and Causing desent in Midgard..

E) Not a member of Midgard and only here to cause trouble..

 

[Glacier]

Originally posted by Cush
I agree with the Roast Beef






and avon

the roast beef needs a respec imo

 

[klavrynd]

much blabla

don't roll for loot you're not using, period

it's called integrity

 

[Blue Ix]

And ffs, do NOT brag about eating roast beef,

it's called integrity!

 

[Aerran Darktyde]

Originally posted by klavrynd
much blabla

don't roll for loot you're not using, period

it's called integrity

HOW many times do I have to say this we could have used the stone, some of TR would like a Skill stone and others Realm stone..

But these people gave up stone to benefit ALL of guild when we were offered what we were offered for stone...
SOME people play the game for the benefit of others not worry how leet they are ..


Read posts and comprehend them before replying its called Intelligence!!!

I assume warders did not get enough of the stones they wanted? as most of the guys Whining here are Warders or friends of Warders..... (except Blue Ix who has a meat fetish it seems )

None of the guilds that had more than one group there declined the extra stones to give other guilds a chance to get stone they wanted.. If you have a problem with how loot was lottoed then take it up with the hunt leaders.. not whine here like little kids that did not get the latest toys when they wanted them...

 

[Jenna.]

You assume wrong!

 

[zapzap]

Let it rest now. Different opinions which will happen when people think ( not counting trolls here ) but smart kobolds and old dwarfs

As i said u did what u thought best and some didnt think it was the way to do it ( so what )

IMO close the thread and lets kill the dragon again and make 200 dragon roastbeefs, need to satisfy blue.


Zapsi the healer with 1 eye

 

[Jenna.]

Whats a forum Troll btw?

 

[Blue Ix]

Originally posted by zapzap
IMO /.../ lets /.../ satisfy blue.

Agreement is now 100%

 

[klavrynd]

SOME people play the game for the benefit of others not worry how leet they are ..

should or should i not mention jealousy, cos that's prolly it...

Read posts and comprehend them before replying its called Intelligence!!!

I did read it and it didnt change opinion

If you have a problem with how loot was lottoed then take it up with the hunt leaders.. not whine here like little kids that did not get the latest toys when they wanted them...

This is not about the guildleaders. If you want to profilate yourself as hero of the realm by saying you do everything for the bigger purpose, you might as well have left the stones for someone who was gonna use it WITHOUT having any financial extras.

and as i mentioned in another thread, i'm standing up out of principle. I did nor do need any stone or item that dropped.

 

[snoz]

Originally posted by Jenna.
Whats a forum Troll btw?

Someone that posts remarks purely to make arguements ^^

 

[Kerram Darktyde]

Aerran Does not try to be a Hero of the realm only people with ego problems do that..

Aerran plays the game to have fun, Help his friends that play his guild and his realm...

He is not a Glory hound , he is not someone who whines here at the slightest thing wrong, he does not think he is Leet or a Realm hero...

and the Intelligence thing does seem to have gone over your head.... draw your own conclusions from that...

I know I will not change any of the die hard whiners and self righteous morons that post here. All of the People and guilds I respect in game have no issue with what TR did and that is all that counts..

klav you are either a forum Troll or a self righteous moron.. Your not a very good troll as your comments have no founding on what was written in the posts and are very weak at most..

Why would anyone be jealous of the self proclaimed "leet" members of DAoC , some players are actually Over 12 years old in mental age and play the game to have fun not to be the Leetest Dude in town...

 

[Cush]

ok.. next time we go by selling the stones.. highest bidders gets the stones. that is about what happens when ppl take em only to sell em off.

 

[Kerram Darktyde]

have you been hit by the stupid stick too... ?

I will say it slowly for you......

Members of Talons Reach could have used the Stone and other could have used a realm respec stone..

So we did not decline being in lotto.. we got a stone , we got offered some thing that could better the guild as a whole and took that...

Including all the organising and travelling to and from places Aerran spend around 5-6 hours on raid and lotto..
How much do you think he could have made in DF in that time...??

 

[Cush]

Originally posted by Kerram Darktyde
have you been hit by the stupid stick too... ?

I will say it slowly for you......

Members of Talons Reach could have used the Stone and other could have used a realm respec stone..

So we did not decline being in lotto.. we got a stone , we got offered some thing that could better the guild as a whole and took that...

Including all the organising and travelling to and from places Aerran spend around 5-6 hours on raid and lotto..
How much do you think he could have made in DF in that time...??

got 500 dimond seals on 2 ppl in about 2 h once and that is way more then that

 

[Blue Ix]

Was there 8 people from TR at the raid, levels 45+?

If you had a fg of 45+ you actually deserved the right to be in the lotto, and all is well. Can't really expect a DR lotto to be like a guild raid where you don't roll for a drop that you don't need, just to sell it. The stones are a treasure since we've only had one dragon raid yet, which is why some of us are getting upset. After a couple of dragon raids, not only will everyone roll for them, they will also be seen on the trading boards selling for everything between 3-8p or so.

 

[Hufner]

TR didn't bring a full group, but the remainder was filled up of PWers. And as we in PW felt they deserved the stone - bringing the majority in the group, we said the lotto in-group could be skipped.

So if anyone in Midgard should feel "slighted" about that sale they then did, it should be us.
Funnliy enough, we don't see it as a problem at all.
There will be more raids, so more chances to get a stone.


/cuts some slices of fine steak to serve around

 

[Kerram Darktyde]

Originally posted by Cush
got 500 dimond seals on 2 ppl in about 2 h once and that is way more then that

My point excatly...
We did not go into lotto to sell item but in the end selling the stone made TR stronger than using it ourselves...

 

[Freia]

Originally posted by Kerram Darktyde
My point excatly...
We did not go into lotto to sell item but in the end selling the stone made TR stronger than using it ourselves...

oic you switched the claims from 'making midgard stronger' to 'making tr stronger' well now i'm happy atleast.

 

[Makwaerk]

TR Worked just as hard as the rest of us, if they whanted to Shift+D the danm stone, it is there choice.. don't go whine about some one using there game time in a different way then you.

TR came and did their job and got paid by a stone, that you think you/someone else have greater right to the stone is your problem.

 

[old.Spug]

oic you switched the claims from 'making midgard stronger' to 'making tr stronger' well now i'm happy atleast.

not me, last night I was making midgard stronger with my tailor, yes indeedy...

 

[Farnis]

Personally, Id rather more high level crafters than a respecced Warder who wont group with anyone else. With the amount of tailors that are actually quitting, I think its of much greater importance.