Which is the strongest of the 3 archer classes?

[Edaemos]

Best archer against an assasin is ranger by far due to CD

Best archer vs archer id say is ranger or hunter.

Best tower humper is scout due to shield and slight range advantage.

Overall i think the 3 archer classes are quite balanced now compared to OF.

 

[Jaem-]

Think DW makes the more then up for the blocking. Also dont forget the DW cuts both blocking and evading in two; where the scout doesnt cut in half the evade of the ranger.

If the scout is simular to what I had 39Thrust 42Shield (basicaly a lite-s/s arms), then I'd say its pretty even vs rangers, theres still a huge number of block vs DW (due to 400+dex and 42+shield) and add spec af into it which will lower the rangers dmg on them, from my experience at least.

Note, this is just melee/defences I'm talking about, a scout will still have tricks up its sleeve such as slam and critshot if the target doesn't purge, as well as a insta root.

 

[lathoniel]

scouts dont die to hunters. shield > 2handed every single day of the year (tho FZ > all). ask fatty about them 13 blocks in a row, ownage

and if u can beat sb's in 1v1, ull surely own a ranger. ranger melee dmg sux, even as much as less than a 1handed sword swing and without ur poison and con debuffs that assasins have ur toast. cutest thing is about rangers they do love to scrap, think they forget they have a bow sometimes.

 

[-Freezingwiz-]

who cares all of them loose to the overpowered mincer xD

 

[anioal]

Best archer against an assasin is scout due to shield spec, spec af, sojourner ml path

Best archer vs archer id say is scout due to shield spec, spec af.

Best tower humper is scout due to better range, better bow dmg caused by the missing of spec af on opponents (and because of numbers ofc )

sooo... the winner is scout



ps its not a scout whine

 

[Kinad]

Scouts are the strongest by far if specced properly and with sufficient rp's.

At high rr triple CC specced scouts do win against nearly any enemy stealther
1on1, or atleast survive. 1 purge against fz + 3 cc attacks is bad odds.

Ohh and im insulted.. Lath hits like a gimp compared to me !
His a cheaky bastard who when we play together allways wait to fire last shot

Well im off to play WoW for a bit, gl to any i fought in the past.

 

[Aussie]

Best archer against an assasin is scout due to shield spec, spec af, sojourner ml path

ye because its very hard to get zephyr in without stun

 

[Ronso]

best archer V assasin is a hero with 50shield 50large weapon and a short bow
best archer V archer is a hero with 50shield 50large weapon and a short bow
best archer for camping shit is is a hero with 50shield 50large weapon and a short bow who jumps off the keep and runs towards u m00sing ...

seriously ..

 

[anioal]

ye because its very hard to get zephyr in without stun

only crap scouts think scout is not the best archer

 

[lathoniel]

Well im off to play WoW for a bit, gl to any i fought in the past.

lol, so true.

fanks to those hibs that made me and kin feel like gods of ownage on plateau overlooking eras tower

 

[lathoniel]

His a cheaky bastard who when we play together allways wait to fire last shot

.

thats the quote i meant :/

 

[Puppet]

and if u can beat sb's in 1v1, ull surely own a ranger. ranger melee dmg sux, even as much as less than a 1handed sword swing

U beat a SB because of Forceful Zephyr, Ignore Pain or an unpurged slam and his 15% weakness to heat (or 10% weakness to slash).

This is all things your scout has above the SB which makes the scout beat the SB with that stuff up. The problem isnt beating the SB, the problem is beating someone with similar abilities.

Your scout has IP? So does the ranger. Your scout has FZ? So does the ranger. You dont have 15% heat weakness? Neither does the ranger.

Mostly the one timing the FZ the best (eg. preventing enemy to IP) will win in archer vs archer. Without FZ but all the other abilities (IP, Purge) a good ranger should beat a scout 90% of the time; scout is no match in melee to my ranger. Hunter can be very tough to fight as ranger because even DW > 2H in dps the problem is catching up with the hunter his dps. Key is here really does the ranger evade the hunter or not. 1-2 evades (misses!) and its game-over for the hunter.

I dont recall loosing to a scout in a 1 vs 1 if I had purge up and didnt get FZ'ed on the wrong time in like 4-5 months :O

 

[lathoniel]

ill fight ya, u can use fz, i wont. ill even forget to use the cold lgm i forget to carry, ranger melee dmg sux0rs.

prydwen, well there ya go.

 

[Gravediggah]

Scouts,scouts, and more scouts

scouts SCOUTS! hate that word. fu scouts!

However after reading a scout TL report a while ago, I truly hope they sacked that guy and banned hes accounts lol, Its like stuck in my head "We scouts need improved melee damage, On range we are ok but when it comes to melee we die" It just ringed a bell in my head "SO WTH DO YOU THINK U MORON ARE YOU A SCOUT OR A TANK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

*ice* calm again

Anyways balance here balance there who cares really, daoc never had ANY balance and will never get any either. Mythic to busy fixing more lag expands that we can buy instead of taking care of the already annoying ingame issue's.


SCOUTS!

 

[Sauruman]

Scouts,scouts, and more scouts

scouts SCOUTS! hate that word. fu scouts!

However after reading a scout TL report a while ago, I truly hope they sacked that guy and banned hes accounts lol, Its like stuck in my head "We scouts need improved melee damage, On range we are ok but when it comes to melee we die" It just ringed a bell in my head "SO WTH DO YOU THINK U MORON ARE YOU A SCOUT OR A TANK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

*ice* calm again

Anyways balance here balance there who cares really, daoc never had ANY balance and will never get any either. Mythic to busy fixing more lag expands that we can buy instead of taking care of the already annoying ingame issue's.


SCOUTS!

U're right, scouts own every class in melee, even a fg if he wants...

 

[anioal]

U're right, scouts own every class in melee, even a fg if he wants...

let me guess: with 50 bow and 42 shield u want to outmelee a ranger/ns or a hunter/sb ?

pff...

 

[Edaemos]

let me guess: with 50 bow and 42 shield u want to outmelee a ranger/ns or a hunter/sb ?

pff...

Looks like your guess was wrong

 

[Vandar]

ill fight ya, u can use fz, i wont. ill even forget to use the cold lgm i forget to carry, ranger melee dmg sux0rs.

prydwen, well there ya go.

I've been hit for 500 dmg in one round by a celt ranger, yes I was buffed, yes, I have decent resists, he was thrust so no malice or battler. Damm was I surprised.
He must have had some nice crits but I'd hardly call that crap. Its a slight difference to my 200-250.

 

[Puppet]

ill fight ya, u can use fz, i wont. ill even forget to use the cold lgm i forget to carry, ranger melee dmg sux0rs.

prydwen, well there ya go.

Yes; kinda hard to duel then

 

[Puppet]

I've been hit for 500 dmg in one round by a celt ranger, yes I was buffed, yes, I have decent resists, he was thrust so no malice or battler. Damm was I surprised.
He must have had some nice crits but I'd hardly call that crap. Its a slight difference to my 200-250.

After debuffs go off its pretty common for me to hit for 250-300 mainhand on studded from a scout. Depending on crits and offhands its quite easy to reach 500 / round. After debuffs it can even go over 650 on SB's without heat-resists and spec-AF

Im swinging at about ~1.8 secs with druid haste and my 3.9 mainhand legendary weapon.

 

[lathoniel]

cant recall ever being hit for 300+ mh, thats like PA damage, 100-150 seems the norm, the lower end being the average tbh, most crazy ass rangers tend to try to straff a lot, dunno why people do this, yes its annoying, but i think it usually ends up worse for the straffer.

all i know is a solo ranger = a dead ranger,
a solo ranger without purge = a dead ranger twice.

same goes for hunters, ns and sb, matter of fact apart from the odd occasional, damn i shoulda ip'd a little sooner there, or a evade stun without purge on 10% or summit, ive only lost 3 descent fights since NF, all to paradoxx. maybe rr or experience has a bit to do with it. but i do sincerely think a scout can take anything these days, in the stealth war that is.

i fking h8 kessa.

 

[Jaem-]

After debuffs go off its pretty common for me to hit for 250-300 mainhand on studded from a scout. Depending on crits and offhands its quite easy to reach 500 / round. After debuffs it can even go over 650 on SB's without heat-resists and spec-AF

Im swinging at about ~1.8 secs with druid haste and my 3.9 mainhand legendary weapon.

Sounds like simular dmg to 39thrust on a scout, tho I didn't crit much as of no MoP, think the best I've done is around 500.

 

[Jaem-]

cant recall ever being hit for 300+ mh, thats like PA damage, 100-150 seems the norm, the lower end being the average tbh, most crazy ass rangers tend to try to straff a lot, dunno why people do this, yes its annoying, but i think it usually ends up worse for the straffer.

Heh, can be very funny when they try to strafe so much, that you can land side styles alot.

 

[-Freezingwiz-]

Heh, can be very funny when they try to strafe so much, that you can land side styles alot.

Gimpster ones attcked me when I was on 20% hp and some 1 mincer added on him, he ended up dieing because he strafed so much he acualy only hit me ones xD I had a good laugh after that :wub: (Pre NF, mids had relics etc)

 

[Kathal]

i fking h8 kessa.

Who is that ??

 

[Smilewhenyousaythat]

Scout, Hunter, Ranger?

Which is the better at killing visuals?
Which is the best at killing assasins?
Which is the best at killing other archers? (assuming both are roaming stealthed) (scouts are obviously the better snipers)

1. Scout.

2. Ranger.

3. Close, but hunter takes it.

 

[Nul]

I have a 48.5 hunter called Killz.
I've been looking for a good RvR bow but havent found one yet.
Anyone got suggestions? (Will prolly get Fools bow later on bcos
of siege lore, for doors only.) So far I've been thinking of getting
an legendary bow, bad/good?

Atm Im using a 99% crafted one. Feels a bit gimpy..

Bow name? Price? Any suggestions?

 

[seeph]

: anyone with str relics? ;p

erhm scouts have no use for str relics 99% doesnt have meleespec so relics don't help

rangers get great benefits from relics with DW

Hunters get benefits aswell but with 2h the advantage is not half as good as with DW

so ur short answer is kinda inadequate but for original poster : RANGER !

 

[Vodkafairy]

erhm scouts have no use for str relics

nooo, not at all

so ur short answer is kinda inadequate

mefinks yours is, str relics affect archery damage also, not just str stat or something stupid

 

[Vodkafairy]

hunter called Killz.

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