Whats top of the pile now? 1v1

Ckiller

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high rr rangers... this is for my pally ofcourse other than that i can hold my own often. Course high shield main tanks is a big nono and bms can be troublesome.

On inf hmm everything is a good joust tbh
 

kivik

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sb pov:

1 Mercenary
2 Armsman
3 Heretic or Valewalkers

ranger pov:

1 Paladin/Armsman/Warrior/Thane/Valkyrie
2 Mercenary
3 Heretic
 

Gratscensi

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proper heroes will win vs most meleeclasses tbh.

well, heavy tanks with the right race and augstr to bypass enemies defense.
 

Nuxtobatns

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From Mid pov

Merc, Pole arms, Warden and the new VW.

If being more generall..i would defo add Valk among those.
 

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Wardens
Mercs
infiltrators/nightshades

Won't even mention necro because it's impossible to kill a buffed necro pet in melee.

Rated wardens highest because:

Pbt (zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz)
Buffshear styles (please)
Slam and Shield Spec (great, added defense and ability slam and heal up)
Grapple + TWF (please)
Fast swingspeed + Traitor's Dagger proc
Self healing in various ways.
 

auroria

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gohan said:
he cud just power bolt you then use the charge RA so u waste end trna slam an use the power he stole to drain whats left of ur end .... then stick ravens up just for lol's
cause its so hard to kite his charge using ur own charge LOL FUCKNOOB! and who would repeatedly try to slam while vamp is charging? you?
 

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Arumos said:
high RR nightshades are also hard if they get the jump, got raped only last week by puppets ns, full PA chain whilst battler debuffed + viper3 although he met me 30 or so minutes later to miss PA an barely take 50% off me.

I dont have Viper3. First fight I got lucky with the PA (and CD) landing. The second time I did land PA (for pathetic damage), you evaded(!) CD and from there things went downhill ;)

From personal experience on my nightshade, who's pierce-specced the toughest two classes to fight are Albions plate-wearers: Resistant to my damage and leggies are often unreliable (or useless in Arms case due to the inherent higher magic resists) - savages and berserkers are also a pity to fight with my NS (they are easier on my Ranger with PD and Slash).

Valks are impossible if they are equal RR, have Purge, Warguard and the works. Luckily most seem to be lacking in that perspective. Without purge (I have purge3 on my NS) on slam I still die to RR2 Valks tho.
 

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Valks were really good in 1on1 when I played so I am guessing they are a pain now :D
 

uron

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valks
vamps (depends on blocking i find)
any MOC3 caster wen u dont have PA
 

Raven

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valk
Armsman (only just due to frankly silly RR5)
Hero
Pally
BM
savage
merc (not really that hard to defeat DT as a hero)
zerker


not including casters, moc, lol, win
 
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Never had a problem with valks so far on my Vamp, but we'll see.. :)

Depends which class is fighting what really, hardest on vamp would be an Armsman or a warrior, where as on inf it'd be Valks/bm's etc
 

liloe

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I hate heavy tanks and valks, really. Wtf these shield fortresses with either 3k+ hp and the cool Me-is-immune-to-j00 instas or self heals :p

Crafting my new BM temp atm, hope that will sort it =)
 

Kagato

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Albion:

Mercs (mostly due to dt)
Armsmen
Paladins
Reaver
Friar
Heretic

Talking in general over most other enemies, Armsmen are alot harder to kill then mercs but mercs can kill things like wardens and other heavy defense classes easier then Armsmen, and for everything else theres DT. But with DT down then Armsmen will be better when caught without timers.
Friars I think are still highly underestimated.

Midgard:

Valkyrie
Warrior
Thane
Beserker
Savage

Valks mostly due to being able to handle melee and casters with roughly the same ease though warriors will be tougher in melee.

Hibernia:

Hero
Champion
Valewalker
Vampire
Blademaster

Hero because its pretty much only the rediculous RR5 that makes champions tough, in the long run Hero's will be more reliably harder to kill and with moose mode up, stupidly hard to kill.
Valewalkers because of the desease and easy snares / grapple abuse for dealing with nearly all siturations.
Vamps tend to be either really easy or really hard, but more reliably harder to kill then bm's.
 

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i actually managed to kill most classes with savage when i soloed, classes i stod no chance at all against seemed to be arms/paladin/heretic. best fight was when i killed onlyone(rr11 cleric) and deafguardian(rr8) reaver in one go, nerf savage battler debuffed damage. i also managed to get a tripple for 1100~ on jamiesmallicus as last hit in our duel. but vs heavily defensiv tanks i struggled, stealthers i could quiet reliably kill even tho i have shit template. quiet fun fights but a hell to rest after each and every fight :) even if they didnt hit you once you've lost atleast 20%~ HP :(
 

Djib

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From Mid perspective I would say (assuming well templated) and in no particular order :)

Armsman
Vamp
VW
 

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Fatload BoysDoCry said:
Valks, heavy tanks and heretics. I presume wardens and VW's are up there also.

Says 1v1, not which class is hardest to leech most rp from.
 

Tor_nada2004

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Uhmmmm , BD >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> VALK > everyone eles... but pitty its not in it sooo i guess , valk > thane > merc
 

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my top 3 OP 1v1 would be

VW first, because they can ghey you to death and theres nothing u can do about it. Nothing really

Armsman, just because their damage output is hardcore and defensivly they have like Soooo much, parry, rr5, wargard, battler ip plate magical resist boost

Valk, Well I fought a couple of low RR solo specced ones. I won, but like I could see the potential. Got hit for some stonking damage. I think perfaps u can get stuck into this class still but when u get like a high RR soloer one with all the shit they will be insane.

(i guess its so close really, because all these classes have things which they can throw into the mix which will just fuck you up big style)

and different peeps will have different POV's depending how their class of choice copes with a certain calss (which varies of course)
 

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I find arms, heroes and mercs to be the hardest opponents, usually don't have a chance in hell vs them :p Although almost any melee class can be made tough if played right :)

This is from a thanes pov btw.
 

islef

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From a valk pov (I do not have a lot of toys tho, grp specced atm and only ml2):

Alb:
Arms (these are funneh.. they all take it as a personal insult when you engage them while they pop rr5 XD )
Merc
Reaver
Pala

Hib:
VW
Warden (grapple twf is so annoying after 6 mins of fighting where you are both on 20-30%)
Champ
Vamp
BM
Hero

Then again i im prolly pretty shit at the whole solo thing, but i like to think im learning :p
 

islef

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Nah well it is an ability available so not gonna whine TOO much about it, it is just darn frustrating when you have been fighting for a looooong time and that happens. The dear warden in question was nice enough not to use shears tho since i was on hib soil, and we had 3 really fun fights from my pov, ended 2-1 to him :fluffle:
 

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From a heretics point of view, I still firmly believe that SBs and NSes gave me the hardest time of all. Sadly although I specced my RAs for soloing for a while, this is from an un-solo-templated view point. The thing is, their DoTs are an absolute killer for a class with no IP although had I been templated, EP and and champion weapon would have given me 90% more hits over a 2 minute period of time if the fight lasted that long.

I really can't comment all that much against valks and VWs (as I haven't met any since the new patch due to me being heavily group specced) but all I could factor in is that a heretics rr5 would negate most of their DD damage thus making them a weaker target. On paper with everything up, a heretic shouldn't loose to one of a near equal realm rank.

Vamps were always a great fight. I will still never forget my set of 5 fights against goaone one night (had one excellent fight then we kept going to the same place to meet each other I think, not pre-arranged) and it ended on 2-2 with one fight destroyed by a caster.

Wardens are also a royal pain in the arse with pbt meaning we can't get a chain off. I would viper (If I could get through the sheild) then the first levi would hit pbt, second would land and third would also hit pbt or get through if I was lucky enough...then it was back to just trying to survive the rest of the fight.
 

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Tor_nada2004 said:
Uhmmmm , BD >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> VALK > everyone eles...but pitty its not in it sooo i guess , valk > thane > merc

Merc>thane unless something out the ordinary happens.
 

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kirennia said:
Wardens are also a royal pain in the arse with pbt meaning we can't get a chain off. I would viper (If I could get through the sheild) then the first levi would hit pbt, second would land and third would also hit pbt or get through if I was lucky enough...then it was back to just trying to survive the rest of the fight.

PBT doesn't pulse when stunned.
 

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From my merc PoV, who is group RA specced (Det 5 etc).
1. Vamp, just QQ even with DT they kill me. Only chance is to fire BS, battler and hope to drop them within 20s otherwise its over.
2. Champ, heavy tank with debuffs and decent damage output.
3. Valks, depends on which valk.. had a lot of fights with Irla and she is winning 4-2.

Dueling fellow albs (DT banned in duels :mad: ): Strafing/run through paladin with perma sprint and celerity is just impossible. Wouldnt want to have to fight arms either.
 

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