What would make RvR more fun

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ab_fluid

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Originally posted by old.Filip
Wardenwiththeunspellablename.....

you seem like a nice person .. plz hold on to that... dont let ppl with a limitet horizon cut down your fun....

i my self are boored silly by tank groups.... but we need em vs the mids...

the solution is often to make 2fg's ...

1 fg tanks (dont have to be high RR)
1 fg random casters (alb got loads of those)

which random casters you got then deside how we try to play.. and if you make sence to the ppl with you they even sometimes listen and mostly we have a fun time....

(often we allso die in horrible bad ways and i have to yell/curse/log in/log out etc in anger... but thats a part of the random fun)

if you lucky some elite'ist from other realms will logg on to your realm to tell you that you should die RL (like some ppl here) and you can all have a laugh in /as..

Regards

Filip..

and btw when some of the ppl who play none fotm class's find out they can be used and win figths they gonna give you nice thank you tells and appriciate what you do...

you have a laugh about elitest guilds in ur /as? no wonder albs alliances r so small and crap
 
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Kindar

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The elite grps are somewhat nice to be part of since i rarely rvr, but random grps gotta be the most funniest. I remember a few days ago i went outside Svasud. Was some trouble there with some stealthers...as always.
Joined a grp...2 warrior, 2 thanes, 1 mend healer, 1 pbt runie, 1 bd and 1 berz. Now...this grp had no kind of CC except the little slam us warriors could punch out. We came across some albs...was mostly a caster grp and we got the advantage of getting the first blows on em from behind. Thanes started to AE so the poor sorcs never was able to mezz. Pwned alb grp.

Of course this is huge luck, but its merely quite funny to kill without being reliable on CC.
 
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old.Filip

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you have a laugh about elitest guilds in ur /as? no wonder albs alliances r so small and crap

hehe nopes you got it wrong.... read again
 
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ab_fluid

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Originally posted by old.Filip
hehe nopes you got it wrong.... read again

ok my bad wording, you laugh in /as when someone logs onto alb and tell you you're lame? still jsut as stupid
 
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old.Filip

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There is 2 kind of ppl..

those who get it....
and those who dont get it...
 
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ab_fluid

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Originally posted by old.Filip
There is 2 kind of ppl..

those who get it....
and those who dont get it...

then please correct me, as being english and all i don't seem to understand
 
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old.Filip

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hmmmmm sry i cant correct you ...

and i think if i try to explain why i find it funny if some1 like to tell me to go die RL i will sound patronising...

all i can say is try to understand other view points on this game...

maybee im just to old to play or read boards i dunno :)

anyway .... hf with your special made groups...

and let other ppl have fun with their not so fotm groups etc..

im sure this entizimhpinhdfgwu is a nice guy ... dont be mean to him


(edit: im not english so there migth be quite a few spelling errors :) )
 
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ab_fluid

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Originally posted by old.Filip
hmmmmm sry i cant correct you ...

and i think if i try to explain why i find it funny if some1 like to tell me to go die RL i will sound patronising...

all i can say is try to understand other view points on this game...

maybee im just to old to play or read boards i dunno :)

anyway .... hf with your special made groups...

and let other ppl have fun with their not so fotm groups etc..

im sure this entizimhpinhdfgwu is a nice guy ... dont be mean to him


(edit: im not english so there migth be quite a few spelling errors :) )

its not funny telling someone to die irl over a game, but its stupid to laugh about it on /as.

As for me making my fotm grps, my grp setupts have been the same for over year, tis hardly fotm
 
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Arnor

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remove the eliteness that has come to rule daoc, and all would be well.


I love playing with my friends, and i hate playing with ppl that cant do shit, but the reason I hate that is because everyone is being so elite that there is no room for a noob that doesnt know his stuff.

I hate the fact that there is a single best type of groupsetup(more or less), its so fucking inane and dull.


i'd love to be able to play in a group that isnt 3/2 healers, 1 shammy, 1 skald, 3/4 tanks and not rely on high rr/skill to have a chance.

But unfortunately, like every other online game i've played, the eliteness has taken over. Its not that bad for me, I have a decent toon and some skill and much time to play/make a new char.

How bout those that cant play more then 2hrs every other day, and finally after about a year irl of playing have reached 50 with their <insert non-det-random-non-"essential"-class here>
Stuck at a fucking tk or doomed to random noob groups that are bound to be slaughtered by l33t "professional" groups. How's that for fun?
They dont have the time or patience to lvl another toon, so there they are, stuck in a "crappy" guild with no chance for rvr cept zergs. how mythic can do this to their own players is sickening :puke:


That said, uberification is an inevitable if (un)desired process in any online game, and though i've had great fun in pre-set uber groups in all the games i've played online (quake, qtf, q2,ut, hl, cs, q3, ut2k4 and daoc) It hurts the average player alot, so the next time your sitting on your ass trying to assemble the perfect group, or pling your fotm-char, think of the time you wont have the time to be a leet player, think of the inevitable time when you become an average player. Wouldnt you love to stand a chance? wouldnt you love to be able to get a group straight up and go out and actually not get steamrolled and wtfpwned by super-1337-ninja-geeks-from-hell?

This is how I see it, but unfortunately I cant start taking in thanes and rm's and sm's in groups, because then my group will become fodder because of all the other pre-set gank-groups that are out there. Its a vicious circle, and tbh I dont see a way out thats half-way realistic...
 
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ulke

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Arnor pretty much got it all, maybe ToA will change things ? (atleast in the beginning) :p
 
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hrun

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well put Arnor.


DAOC was a quite uniqe game in my opinion. It was the first mmorpg(atleast that I know of) which took a step towards the fps scene. With time I believe rvr.. or the fps part of the game has become more and more important. A casual player who plays a game, be it cs, quake or any other fps generally doesn't stand a chance against the hardcore players. So what does he do? He changes to another server where other casual players play. This isn't possible in daoc, and therefor leads to a lot of whine between the casual (mmorpg'ers) and fps ppl.

Maybe mythic is to blame for this.. maybe not. Imo a game constructed like this one could'nt turn out any other way.

To me DAOC was a mmorpg in the beginning.. Nowadays its just another fps game where you can't avoid competing with hardcore gamers and where a lot of chars are useless in rvr. So putting the odd White Knight - Green Queen zerg/"roleplaying" ;) aside, this is to me a fps game where you can either roll a fotm char.. get on ts/ventrilo/rw.. put a balanced fg together and kick some ass... or go as a mixed group, expect to die alot and maybe.. just maybe have some fun.
 
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piggeman

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Originally posted by Ensceptifica
... would be if people wouldn't stand around a realmgate for hours waiting for the ideal group setup, while there's tons of people around lfg.

It's so silly to see 4 or 5 groups at Druim Ligen doing nothing, because they're all waiting for a 2nd druid with the right spec to come along. Because they won't have the 'perfect' group if they invite someone else. Some people even leave when a group fills up to something that isn't the perfect template.

Is doing nothing really more fun than taking your chances by trying something new? I've played since release and the most fun and success I've had, has always been with unusual group setups (chanter for speed, no bard, no druids, 3 rangers, animists, etc). I wish more people would go and get more out of this game.

So there.

/salute

I couldn't agree more!
 
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piggeman

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one more thing ...

I have been playing this game since release too, and I remember back in the old good days when SC armor wasn't invented and level 50 was a luxery.

"Wow! my group have 4 lvl 50 in it! We will own everything!!!"

Now that was funneh days!
 
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Divinia

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Originally posted by old.Filip
Wardenwiththeunspellablename.....

you seem like a nice person .. plz hold on to that... dont let ppl with a limitet horizon cut down your fun....

i my self are boored silly by tank groups.... but we need em vs the mids...

the solution is often to make 2fg's ...

1 fg tanks (dont have to be high RR)
1 fg random casters (alb got loads of those)

which random casters you got then deside how we try to play.. and if you make sence to the ppl with you they even sometimes listen and mostly we have a fun time....

(often we allso die in horrible bad ways and i have to yell/curse/log in/log out etc in anger... but thats a part of the random fun)

if you lucky some elite'ist from other realms will logg on to your realm to tell you that you should die RL (like some ppl here) and you can all have a laugh in /as..

Regards

Filip..

and btw when some of the ppl who play none fotm class's find out they can be used and win figths they gonna give you nice thank you tells and appriciate what you do...

fun.not fun.fun.not fun. fun.not fun. fun.not fun.
 
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Khalen

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Even realm nrs and people don't need to make THE LEET FG everytime, like the old days. We didn't need all classes or specific groups to win some battle it was all about playing smart. Now you gotta play BEST OF THE BEST to win some battles. And because we albs have so many most just don't bother with making the uber group and just wanna get some rps by simple zerging.

So even the numbers in the realms and all people can enjoy the game more....

And I totally agree on Arnor there (although he doesn't like me).
 
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PJS

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Originally posted by Tyka
Well you asked and I shared my point of view, obviously you don't like it and obviously I wont group with random mongs at DL.

Sign me up for the random mong section then if the alternative is becoming anything like you.
 
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jaapi

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Originally posted by Tyka
yeah sux to be able to setup good groups and enjoy themselves
Everyone is able to, but while you wait for 2 hours for that perfect group, random group has made several runs already.
Trying (even if failing) with random group is more fun than sitting at DL with nothing to do.
 
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Tyka

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Originally posted by jaapi
Everyone is able to, but while you wait for 2 hours for that perfect group, random group has made several runs already.
Trying (even if failing) with random group is more fun than sitting at DL with nothing to do.

who says i sit in dl 2 hours? its retards that do that, like the ppl that complain about it above.. not me.
 
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jaapi

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Originally posted by Tyka
who says i sit in dl 2 hours? its retards that do that, like the ppl that complain about it above.. not me.
Wow, didn't think you missed the whole point of the thread, but somehow you managed...
 
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Tyka

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Originally posted by jaapi
Wow, didn't think you missed the whole point of the thread, but somehow you managed...

wow did you read what i said? or just another guy who just talks out of hiss to boost his post count? thought so.
 
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jox

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Mytix should add special zones in the RvR-expansion, zones that can take max one fg from every realm, zones that only take people in rr 1-3, 4-6, 7-

And above all; zones where people can solo without stealth.

Stuff like that.

And this game would be great.
 
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finbahr

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Originally posted by PJS
Sign me up for the random mong section then if the alternative is becoming anything like you.

agree 100%

tyka you call someone a mong cos they don't play 6 hours per day with leet grp, come on invite some of these rr1 lvl guys into your grps. show them the best way of doing it rather than "fook of you noob" people learn by making mistakes what do you do kick them "bye" ? i have and some great groups recentley where we have had just 6 in the grp we won 2 battles got wipped 5 times so what we got wipped what difference does it make all meet up in dl 3 mins later run out again its a game cos its fun think you are living the game rather than playing
 
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-Nuked-

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Originally posted by Tyka
another idiot who jumps on all bandwagons he can.

sorry, i dont do bandwagons, i go by what i see ... dont need a bandwagon for reading your every word.
 
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jaapi

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Originally posted by Tyka
wow did you read what i said? or just another guy who just talks out of hiss to boost his post count? thought so.
I don't even know where i can see my post count. :)
But you don't seem to get that this thread is not about you. Maybe you don't do it, but some do. So don't take everything personally and try to see the big picture for once.

For example i play an echantment specced chanter and i'm low RR, so how can i get groups when i'm not needed? There's a group waiting in DL to find a Druid for a long time, so don't u agree it would be more fun to actually do something with that time?
 
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Driwen

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Originally posted by jaapi
For example i play an echantment specced chanter and i'm low RR, so how can i get groups when i'm not needed? There's a group waiting in DL to find a Druid for a long time, so don't u agree it would be more fun to actually do something with that time?

prolly best to make your own group then and go to HW as the competition is slightly less hard there :p (less people worrying about getting close to perfect setup). As Tyka prolly said you dont have to rely on others to start to change something, but going into emain as only one with a less than perfect group (and without a zerg) will usually lead to a certain death
 
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Tyka

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hmm i think i made my post very clear, sitting at dl just to wait for a perfect group is not what i prefer, but just because i like to go to emain with a balanced group does not mean that i disagree with original poster either..

to sum it up i think ppl who whine (jaapi) because they have a worthless class and are lazy ****s who can talk big talk on forums and not getting groups at dl deserve it, if you want a group set it up yourself and dont whine on others for waiting for the perfect group setup, some ppl do that and u have to live with it ok ?

And nuked then you must be a very ignorant person, i think most of LA shares the same view as me, but you of course just bash me here because some others are =jumping bandwagons, in my eyes you are just a kid who joined a big guild and suddenly got a big mouth, before that u were a random retard.

respect other peoples opinion and stop flaming them because they think in other lanes than you do, k.
 

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