What would happen

[Laddey]

If weed was legalised in the UK.

I mean, i know fuck all really but what if

Weed was legalised, sold in safe doses (yeh there may not be a safe dose, but within reason) made cleaner with no shit sprayed on it and we got taxed on it?

Wouldn't it reduce crime? I know like 15+ blokes that would be put out of business if it was legalised.

 

[tris-]

i think the dealer network might crumble in terms of weed but then they may push bad quality harder stuff instead. if they could push it at the same price of legal weed more people looking for "any buzz" might be more likely to buy it. walking down the streets of dam i got offered everything on the street by a group of blokes. could end up the same here.

no one in there right mind would buy weed from a street dealer if legal weed was sold. soap bar would be gone for good, which can only be a good thing.

then again i dont think weve got the right type of culture for it.

 

[Golena]

Weed was legalised, sold in safe doses (yeh there may not be a safe dose, but within reason)

That's where your plan turned from being an idea into a fairy tale.

Take an example. Try to stop someone buying more than 30 cans of coke a week. See if you can find a way of enforcing that.

 

[Laddey]

Don't you think it'd make people more laid back?

I mean, some fighters and piss pots having a joint before they go off out could relax them and the beer might not push them as much to start scrapping for no reason? I know when i have a joint i don't think about fighting or anything. (I don't anyway)

That's where your plan turned from being an idea into a fairy tale.

Take an example. Try to stop someone buying more than 30 cans of coke a week. See if you can find a way of enforcing that.

Fingerprint pay card or something, like a ration card they had back in the day. Only a specific amount of joints a week or a day or whatever?

But then if people ran out of 'rations' then they'd buy it illegally i guess?

What harm would come of people buying more and more joints anyway?

If the weed was legalised and at a decent strength, you wouldn't wanna buy shitloads of joints because you'd be stoned already.

 

[Huntingtons]

then your example is really good!

seriously though.
golena - tell me how they stop people from buying 30 packs of metadone? (english name?)
my theory on this subject:

Government controlled weed would be cleaner and "healthier"... But, since it would have to be on perscription unless you want the sales to be public (something like Amsterdam, either in cafes, only for use there or shops to take home, not both though) then street dealers would still be selling it because it creates an addiction problem and possibly lead to harder drugs.
If it was legal it would appear in public alot more, that would probably lead to more DUI (of weed) and more accidents.
It has its cons and pros and dont know what to think of it

 

[Laddey]

then your example is really good!

seriously though.
golena - tell me how they stop people from buying 30 packs of metadone? (english name?)
my theory on this subject:

Government controlled weed would be cleaner and "healthier"... But, since it would have to be on perscription unless you want the sales to be public (something like Amsterdam, either in cafes, only for use there or shops to take home, not both though) then street dealers would still be selling it because it creates an addiction problem and possibly lead to harder drugs.
If it was legal it would appear in public alot more, that would probably lead to more DUI (of weed) and more accidents.
It has its cons and pros and dont know what to think of it

Dunno what DUI means like but anyway!...

Yeh there are pro's and cons i guess, like anything.

I mean, more people relaxed yeah but then somebody could sit in a cafe, smoke a zoot and drink a coffee then piss off jump in his car and hit a kid or something because weed does fuck with your reflexes and ability to do anything never mind just drive, i guess if you handled the weed in the right doses it would work, dunno but i've always thought about it.

 

[Golena]

golena - tell me how they stop people from buying 30 packs of metadone? (english name?)

My guess is that either you need a prescription, which means you need a bit of paper from a doctor to buy any, or they don't.

 

[Golena]

Dunno what DUI means like but anyway!...

Driving under the influence. (normally refers to Alcohol)

 

[Laddey]

Driving under the influence. (normally refers to Alcohol)

oh shit me knickers yeah, duh.


I guess more people die of drink driving than smoking and driving?

 

[Huntingtons]

my point golena (prescription). thats how you control people buying 30 of anything a week

 

[Laddey]

my point golena (prescription). thats how you control people buying 30 of anything a week

you can get weed prescribed atm can't you, for arthiritus? but in a spray form or something.


Basically, we should make england like Amsterdam, hot women that sell there bodies and plenty of weed to smoke.

 

[Golena]

my point golena (prescription). thats how you control people buying 30 of anything a week

The problem with that is for a prescription you can't simply walk in to a doctors and go i'd like to take some prescription drugs can you give me X of these a week please. You need to be shown to need them.

Now the people wanting to take weed legally don't actually have a need for it, so they would need to agree to sell it to everyone. I'd imagine fairly quickly you'd have a large number of people simply getting their cheap legal weed purely because they know they can sell it to the bloke down the pub who wants more than his safe amount for a profit.

To do the same with current prescription drugs you'd need to find someone who was willing to sell it to you for a profit, but they would have to go convince a doctor they actually need it first, not simply go hand over their social security number, so it's not nearly as easy to do.

 

[Laddey]

my theory sucks donkey cock i guess?

 

[Golena]

my theory sucks donkey cock i guess?

The concept of legalising it in some contries makes sense.

I just feel that the british binge drinking culture needs to radically change before it makes sense. The concept of doing something in reasonable quantities is something that appears lost in this country. Go look at the pile of people vomiting in the gutter outside your local nightclub and it's rather apparent.

 

[Bugz]

It wouldn't work tbh.

 

[old.Tohtori]

Well, for one, we'd actually see if weed was "better" then alcohol as as many people would use it publicly.

I'd sure as hell be interested to se what kind of chaos/mayhem/problems potheads would 'cause as they've ben calling alcohol users problematic for years.

 

[Imgormiel]

There was a similar program about this on the BBC some weeks ago where a journalist went to Amsterdam to work behind a hashish bar, and then studied its effects both in the UK and Holland.

The results were interesting. Thanks to that i'll never touch that crap again - beer is enough tbh.

 

[Aoami]

Makes sense to legalise it, then you could control what was being sold, and make sure it wasn't too strong etc. Dealers could still make a living off Skunk, everyones happy!

 

[Thorwyn]

It´s still not 100% clear what effects weed/hashish has on the human brain. Some studies claim that there is a correlation between weed and certain forms of schitzophrenia. Nothing is proved of course, but the good old "weed > alcohol" could be wrong.
That said... would legalizing weed reduce crime?
Yes. But so would legalizing heroin, murder, rape and WoW. We can´t legalize something for the sole purpose of reducing the crime that´s coming as a side effect.

 

[old.Tohtori]

and WoW

Don't be preposterous. Like they'd ever legalize that.

 

[Ezteq]

tbh as seen with the 24hr drinking we brits cant moderate ourselves in anything (obece britain anyone?). I love amsterdam and the vibe over there is ttally non threatening and great but in the UK we seem to have an air of impending violence about everything that shows the folks roaming the streets are not really capable of behaving responsibly...when they see as being boring they'd rather go beat a car to death, rape its owner and puke down the front of a kebab shop.

i do think legalizing drugs is a good idea, i think legalizing them in this country wouldn't work.

 

[Laddey]

It wouldn't work tbh.

Great theory you have there bugz, really works!

Yeah, the UK sucks at moderating things, if you gotta do it you gotta do it big in the UK.

Some birts dont drink to socialize, they drink to get fucking hammered end up spinning out in a gutter or kicking shit out of some innocent passerby.

It'd be interesting to see the outcome though. I wonder if more people would start chonging weed because it's legalised.

 

[Chronictank]

tax it like cigarettes and you would have weed smokers paying for their treatment

Dealers would probably move to other things which arent legal or try undercutting with cheaper worse quality stuff akin to cigarettes and alcohol

The primary reason against it would be that it would portray the picture to kids that smoking weed is 'ok', the same way as bringe drinking and smoking is atm

 

[old.Tohtori]

The primary reason against it would be that it would portray the picture to kids that smoking weed is 'ok', the same way as bringe drinking and smoking is atm

*cough*

Well, yeah. Young people, non-smoking campaigns, say no to binge drinking campaigns rell do speak for that argument.

More and more people are saying "smoking and alcohol isn't ok", yet, ask any kid or young adult if smoking weed is bad or not, or if it's cool or not, and you'd get a "hell yeah".

 

[Bugz]

Great theory you have there bugz, really works!

Sorry I was tired and wanted to post, but wrote that much and died somewhere deep inside.

Not only are the effects of weed yet to be fully discovered and constantly being debated, but the side-effects associated with the product can put others in danger.

It is for this same reason why smoking was banned in public places.

Legalising weed MAY disrupt the flow of dealers on our streets BUT the ripples from the legalisation will be felt very strongly in other sectors of the country.

 

[Ezteq]

they should definately legalize prostitution though, thats something i would vote for it makes sense!

btw (said it before and i'll say it again!) read the book High Society by Ben Elton if your interested in the legal drugs issue, its very funny and has some excellent observations.

 

[Chronictank]

*cough*

Well, yeah. Young people, non-smoking campaigns, say no to binge drinking campaigns rell do speak for that argument.

More and more people are saying "smoking and alcohol isn't ok", yet, ask any kid or young adult if smoking weed is bad or not, or if it's cool or not, and you'd get a "hell yeah".

doing drugs is not viewed as "ok" as it is illegal, cool maybe but definitely not ok and alot of people would stay away because of its illegal status

If it was legallised people who would otherwise avoid it would try it at least

 

[old.Tohtori]

doing drugs is not viewed as "ok" as it is illegal, cool maybe but definitely not ok and alot of people would stay away because of its illegal status

If it was legallised people who would otherwise avoid it would try it at least

Drugs no, but weed, go ahead. Not in the media maybe, but in the community. Look at this forum for example.

And it does stand that alcohol and smoking has gotten a worse rep then drugs lately.

I do agree that it would bring more people to it in the try sense, not sure if it would be bad or nto, as those who want to do it, would.

Hell, they survived the 70s

 

[Bugz]

You do not legalise something that has the potential to harm others TBH.

 

[Ezteq]

You do not legalise something that has the potential to harm others TBH.

sorry sweetie but they crossed that bridge a long time ago

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