What would happen

[old.Tohtori]

Depends really.... From what you are saying, it sounds like people would drive stoned because it was legal, but ofc driving while stoned shouldn't be any more legal than driving under influence of other mind altering substances, like the most known: Alchohol.

That's the thing i said more people would drive as per logic, more people would be using?

If more people were using that is.

 

[Iceforge]

This country can barely deal with its alcohol problem without adding another legal psychoactive.

Personally I know for a fact that if it was legal and thus easier to get hold of, I would of gotten no where near as much done in my youth. Droughts were always very productive periods.

You're lack of capacity to deal responsibly with a psychoactive does not justify removing access to it for everybody.
Does the few not able to control their alchohol usage mean that we should make all alchohol illegal so possesion of a beer should cost you a fine + confiscation and a smudge in your public record? (don't know the correct english term for the paper the police have on you about your criminal offenses)

 

[Iceforge]

That's the thing i said more people would drive as per logic, more people would be using?

If more people were using that is.

I am argueing that it would be very little more people using by making it legal, as I have not ever meet anybody who would like to try and smoke weed, but is not doing so due to legaslation.

Currently, as I see it, those who WANT to smoke weed, does smoke weed and those who do not smoke weed, do not want to smoke weed anyway.

But there might be more MAN HOURS spend stoned behind wheels, as those idiots who drive while stoned would have easier access to weed and thusly could drive more FREQUENTLY while stoned, but I doubt anymore people would be driving while stoned than currently.

Do you think lowering the price on alchohol increases the instances of drunk driving because people are able to buy more alchohol or because who already drive drunk drives while drunk more than normal?

 

[old.Tohtori]

I am argueing that it would be very little more people using by making it legal, as I have not ever meet anybody who would like to try and smoke weed, but is not doing so due to legaslation.

Currently, as I see it, those who WANT to smoke weed, does smoke weed and those who do not smoke weed, do not want to smoke weed anyway.

But there might be more MAN HOURS spend stoned behind wheels, as those idiots who drive while stoned would have easier access to weed and thusly could drive more FREQUENTLY while stoned, but I doubt anymore people would be driving while stoned than currently.

Do you think lowering the price on alchohol increases the instances of drunk driving because people are able to buy more alchohol or because who already drive drunk drives while drunk more than normal?

Yeah i meant it in the "if we assume more people use" context.

About the lowering of price, no, it wouldn't, but i do believe that illegalising alcohol(don't do it!) would remove some drunk drivers. Logically thinking.

 

[Iceforge]

Yeah i meant it in the "if we assume more people use" context.

About the lowering of price, no, it wouldn't, but i do believe that illegalising alcohol(don't do it!) would remove some drunk drivers. Logically thinking.

Sure, about that you are correct.

So by what standard is it that you think that alchohol should be legal while weed shouldn't be?

Both are psychoactive drugs, both leads to unability to drive and to criminal behaviour (could be argued that weed only leads to criminal behaviour due to being illegal, while alchohol makes people violent and destructive whatever it is legal or illegal) and of which only 1 (alchohol) does certain long term damage to the user and both carries risk for invoking permanent conditions

 

[old.Tohtori]

So by what standard is it that you think that alchohol should be legal while weed shouldn't be?

Both are psychoactive drugs, both leads to unability to drive and to criminal behaviour (could be argued that weed only leads to criminal behaviour due to being illegal, while alchohol makes people violent and destructive whatever it is legal or illegal) and of which only 1 (alchohol) does certain long term damage to the user and both carries risk for invoking permanent conditions

Umm, i don't know really since i don't think i was against weed being legalised. I said it'd be interesting to see the effects and if things went sourto, ofcourse, to rub it in the face of weed smokers who spoke ill of alcohol

I think both are harmless enough in reasonable amounts that neither should be illegal really.

But, i don't really care one way or other about it. If it's legalised, ok. If it's not, i doubt it'll hinder the users.

 

[Iceforge]

Umm, i don't know really since i don't think i was against weed being legalised. I said it'd be interesting to see the effects and if things went sourto, ofcourse, to rub it in the face of weed smokers who spoke ill of alcohol

I think both are harmless enough in reasonable amounts that neither should be illegal really.

But, i don't really care one way or other about it. If it's legalised, ok. If it's not, i doubt it'll hinder the users.

Well, okay, misjudged your position then

My problem with it not being legalised is user of it being stamped unfit for certain jobs due to criminal record by being caught with weed, while it is infact not anymore harmfull in any way than alchohol.

And don't think I am attacking alchohol. I doubt anyone pro weed actually want alchohol banned; That is not the point, the reason we tell you about all the abd things of alchohol is to make people realise how extremely stupid the law currently is which forbids people to consume weed.

I mean, seriously, when a product is no more damaging, no more addictive, no more criminal by itself or anything negative compared to alchohol, why on earth make it illegal?

I just find it as restrictions of peoples freedom of choise, so per moral standard I am opposed of it

EDIT: Would love to stay and debate some more, but off to work in a moment