What Infil's better in rvr ?

[witte-]

Originally posted by old_saxo


Saran , Thrust = Kill everything but Stealther classes ^^

bs

 

[belth]

Originally posted by old_saxo
Briton , Slash = Kill stealthers

Haha... NS have 36% slash resists, AP...

 

[Ghostly]

Originally posted by belth
Haha... NS have 36% slash resists, AP...

Haha... And still they drop like flies...

 

[salamurhaaja]

Hi.

I don't like any kinda infils.
Slash hits too hard.
Thrust has that weird attack thingie, which makes me mad as hell.
Somekinda stun attack I heard.

Plz don't roll them more,
ok.

Thz.

 

[Ximadir]

Haha... And still they drop like flies...

Yeah right! Then you woke up or so ?

 

[Aussie-]

is salamurhaaja a whinebot from BW self or is he real?

 

[Silenzio]

Originally posted by makgsnake
i was not gonna train CS until my next respec (instead i was gonna have lots of DW), dont u need high stealth for CS ?

only 3 styles (chain) require to be stealthed

BS BS2 PA chain

garrote chain doesn't need

harmsting chain doesn't need <--- best chain


lot ov ppl seem sure that they need to train alot dw wile leveling...

wile leveling my inf... i noticed all ov em face down... =)

cant find any good style (cept obscure) in dw line...

one for all... hig quickness lower ur styled damage... xcept on CS style... inf have alot ov qui

DW is for merc


or make a dw slash inf... mmm ask if goa will let u make an avalonian one

 

[Appollo]

Originally posted by salamurhaaja
Hi.

I don't like any kinda infils.
Slash hits too hard.
Thrust has that weird attack thingie, which makes me mad as hell.
Somekinda stun attack I heard.

Plz don't roll them more,
ok.

Thz.

hi sala /wave

 

[belth]

Originally posted by Silenzio
only 3 styles (chain) require to be stealthed

BS BS2 PA chain

garrote chain doesn't need

harmsting chain doesn't need <--- best chain


lot ov ppl seem sure that they need to train alot dw wile leveling...

wile leveling my inf... i noticed all ov em face down... =)

cant find any good style (cept obscure) in dw line...

one for all... hig quickness lower ur styled damage... xcept on CS style... inf have alot ov qui

DW is for merc


or make a dw slash inf... mmm ask if goa will let u make an avalonian one

Duh. Quickness affects every style, only PA/BS/BS2 are exempt from it. Go test.

As to raising DW while leveling... Infils are basically crap mercs in PvE, there's no time for setting up a PA, etc in a group or if there is, it's a slow group. So what you want is more offhand swings, makes your damage-output higher.

For the "all of them face down" part, you're trying to claim you've never died in PvE? Sat at max exp-range at white lights, eh?

 

[belth]

Originally posted by salamurhaaja
Hi.

I don't like any kinda infils.
Slash hits too hard.
Thrust has that weird attack thingie, which makes me mad as hell.
Somekinda stun attack I heard.

Plz don't roll them more,
ok.

Thz.

How's the savage coming up?

 

[Silenzio]

Originally posted by belth
Duh. Quickness affects every style, only PA/BS/BS2 are exempt from it. Go test.

As to raising DW while leveling... Infils are basically crap mercs in PvE, there's no time for setting up a PA, etc in a group or if there is, it's a slow group. So what you want is more offhand swings, makes your damage-output higher.

For the "all of them face down" part, you're trying to claim you've never died in PvE? Sat at max exp-range at white lights, eh?

Dual Wield
0.07 2 Twin Spikes M L- - - Anytime -
0.85 4 Twin Return L M M L After You Evade Target is Bleeding
0.64 6 Shadow's Edge M H M - From Behind Target -
0.56 8 Inflame M L - -M Anytime Taunts Target
0.85 10 Orbit M M M - After 'Twin Return' Target is Hindered
0.86 12 Eclipse M H M - After 'Shadow's Edge' Target is Slowed
0.44 15 Misty Gloom H M L - Anytime -
0.00 18 Obscure M - - H Anytime Detaunts Target
0.88 21 Penumbra M H H - After 'Shadow's Edge' -
0.85 25 Reflection L M L L After You Parry -
0.73 29 Flank M H - M From Beside Target Target is Hindered
0.85 34 Dark Tendrils L M M - After You Evade Target is Bleeding
0.85 39 Shadow's Rain M M M L After 'Flank' Target is Slowed
0.85 44 Hypnotic Darkness M M H - After 'Reflection' Target is Stunned
0.87 50 Dual Shadows M M M -M In Front of Target Target is Bleeding

Critical Striking

N/A 2 Backstab M L- M -M Yes From Behind Target Target is Stunned
0.65 4 Eviscerate M H L -L No After 'Backstab' Target is Slowed
6 Kidney Rupture L H L -M No After 'Eviscerate' Target is Bleeding
0.92 8 Pincer M H H -H No From Beside Target -
N/A 10 Backstab II H H H -M Yes From Behind Target Target is Stunned
1.17 12 Hamstring L H M M No After You Evade Target is Bleeding
1.09 15 Thigh Cut M H M -L No After 'Backstab II' -
0.75 18 Garrote H H M -M No Anytime Target is Hindered
N/A 21 Perforate Artery M H H -M Yes In Front of Target Target is Bleeding
1.05 25 Achilles Heel M H M - No After 'Garrote' Target is Slowed
1.36 29 Leaper M H H L No After 'Hamstring' Target is Bleeding
1.12 34 Creeping Death L H H - No After 'Perforate Artery' Target is Stunned
39 Stunning Stab L H H+ L No After 'Creeping Death' Target is Bleeding
1.36 44 Rib Separation L H H - No After 'Leaper' Target is Hindered
50 Ripper L H H L No After 'Rib Separation' Target is Bleeding

watch grow up rate =) cs is way better, still cant find any style/chain to compare with Harmsting...

not saing my inf never died wyle leveling.. but when i was able to solo red/orange most ov the time with low downtime
DW inf were struggling with yellow/blue =)
u get harmsting pretty early... low fatigue hig damage after evade... dont know ur inf but mine tend to evade alot =)

n u talking bout group mmm maybe u were luky my inf soloed the wole time from 1 to 46 =) so i had all the time to use pa, even maybe u dont know... but u can pull with xbow ... stealth n pa the mob rlly nice way to solo

in my guild ther was n other guy leveling inf wee before me...
i got mine to 50 in 11 day(play time) with no pl he needed 30 =) maybe just becouse he completed all his epic before 50 n me only at 49 dont know but both ov us got the same equipment from our guild

till 45+ i had only 8 dw than rised for obscure...

dw inf arent good to ME ... maybe u enjoyed it...

n btw i have autotrained stealth till 48 ;P so style i used most
were garrote chain n harmsting chain

p.s.

off hand swing is dw spec + ur lvl
dont know if true or not but with cs style seems to hit with off hand more often... never had the problem ov low damage haveing
weapon n cs capped =)

 

[belth]

Don't try feeding any false shit to a 2.0x spec-point infil, Mr.I-Think-I'm-Über.

Let me guess, this soloing of oranges/reds was done with a bot? Ofcourse it was, 11d to 50, 1-46 solo? That's a very large difference compared to unbuffed.

Garrote/AH are the worst endurance drainers that exist for Infiltrators, if you didn't know, Dual Shadows uses way less end. Killing an orange unbuffed left me with no end at 50 base CS, with 50 DW it's more like half end used. I bet you also spam Hamstring post-DF? There's better ways than that, which produce more damage.

Also, you can't compare growth rates between 2 different weapon-specs without taking all the affecting variables in to account - full DW-spec doesn't require as high growth rates as CS-spec because of the increased offhand swings, which also make you kill shit faster - due to haste effect and increased offhand hits.

You don't swing offhand any more often with CS style compared to using thrust/DW/whatever styles either, "seems" means nothing and proves nothing.

 

[Silenzio]

Originally posted by belth
Don't try feeding any false shit to a 2.0x spec-point infil,

sorry but Who The Fuck cares about how was 20000 patch ago?
this guy is leveling his inf NOW not an age ago =)

inf now have 2.5 and -->SC<-- item... did u noticed?


btw u know... endurance regen faster than hp ???

garrote achilles eat alot ov end, yes! But deal good damge
n u need em only till n eveade that doesn't happen rarely


was done without bb =) but wisely cheking thrust weak mob using poison, on caster mob or slow attak speed monster...

btw is kinda fast cuz took me 1.5 days with huge group working from 46 to 50 (game time, weekend rl)


mmm maybe ther somthing that still eskape u...

Off hand swing rate is related to DW spec yess But Char lvl too
so maxed dw at 15 or lvl 20 doesn't rlly meen "noticable" advatage

eventho i got my inf to 50 in a good enjoyable way
without been called "crap merc"

and let me understand pls =) this guy is asking for a spec to lvl n u Talk BOUT Dual Shadow??? WTF? lvl 50 dw style? :doh:

maybe u dont know that u cant get lvl 50 style unless u r lvl 50 with ur char eheheh so worthless for leveling...

now man... roll 2 inf NOW n try maybe u will diskover to be wrong n thers some alternativ better way in this world

p.s.

killing orange unbuffed? at 50? with my epik armour im used to kill orange shredders easly with lot end left... only red tear our endurance sometimes... and again im talking unbuffed...

is kinda good to do df hsting leeper rib n than df or harmsting ecc
(dead mob)
Now tell me that harmsting chain is "crap" "eat alot ov endurance" n "deal crap damage", do it n ill stop reading ur shit at all...

 

[makgsnake]

ok guys chill ....

i know what i needed to know now ....

 

[belth]

FFS you're ignorant Silenzio, shut up like your name says and think for a while. Dual Shadows for comparisons sake or is that so hard to comprehend? Garrote/AH is bad for you when you solo in PvE, you're better off using some other lower end-using style while waiting for that evade Nobody said Hamstring does shit damage, uses lot of end, read it for fucks sake!

You're the one who's always toting around that your way is best, time to take a break from your self-centered small-minded illusions?

/ignore

 

[Silenzio]

Originally posted by belth
blah blah blah

shhhhh... dont worry the black man is gone... :sleeping: u can sleep again shhh


----
i worte my opinion related to my experience...
not state anything... but seems u cant read others ideas that differs by urs without taking em like personal offence, not good


the point was to sugest him a good spec stragegy to lvl so
tell me what the point compareing a lvl 50 style, plainly n quiet explain was worth what?

garrote eat lot ov end yess as any other anytime =) but if im out ov end n the mob is dead i dont care, rlly ...

u should take in a less pesonalway post on forum, getting angry is bad for ur health
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[footle]

Just capped my first inf out of BG0, and my n00b advice would be to go for high stealth and have fun roaming about in the BGs seeing all the other stealthers from miles off and being able to pick your targets at your leisure.

Maybe not the best l33t-uber-fortehwin!!11one!! spec there is, but at least you will have great FUN messing about in the BGs

I had 16 stealth +4 at BG0, and there was only one SB who could see me - ended up in the some great duels

<salute Redan> and curse left axes hehe

Just my tuppence worth.

 

[Ahqmae]

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Make a grpable char, stealth zerging is boring.