What class am i ment to be able to kill ?

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Efour

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What classes are hunters ment to be able to solo/due these days?

Tried a vampire. well that was fun
Tried a Heratic. again that was mezz doted mezz doted 2 dead hunters.

Are there any other rediculous classes its not even worth trying?

Its already near impossible to kill a caster in a group when the seer is awake.

i died in an rvr zone. lots. :cheers:
 

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Efour said:
What classes are hunters ment to be able to solo/due these days?

Tried a vampire. well that was fun
Tried a Heratic. again that was mezz doted mezz doted 2 dead hunters.

Are there any other rediculous classes its not even worth trying?

Its already near impossible to kill a caster in a group when the seer is awake.

i died in an rvr zone. lots. :cheers:

if you find these you should be able to kill them but they rarely travel alone, or at all :)

bard
druid
cleric
2 handed paladin ?
1 handed + shield warden / hero / champion / merc / armsman / friar (just mace and shield) NOT specced in shield ?

....shit and some other classes cant remember them all, ofc your chances are bigger the lower rr they are and the higher you are :)
 

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Efour said:
What classes are hunters ment to be able to solo/due these days?

Tried a vampire. well that was fun
Tried a Heratic. again that was mezz doted mezz doted 2 dead hunters.

Are there any other rediculous classes its not even worth trying?

Its already near impossible to kill a caster in a group when the seer is awake.

i died in an rvr zone. lots. :cheers:
Hunters are 1 off the weakest links :mad: I think mythic want them to grp like seers bow spec on a hunter sucks:twak: They should of give em a pee shooter that do more damage
 
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Its bloody impossible

we are rr3 most of that coming from BGs

I try and fight in a stealth bridge war and im munched by RR5+s they can see me from cliprange.

We try and camp a choke point/dock great we kill the odd rezz sick person 100rps Really skillfull pathetic thing to do imo anyway.

We try camping a tower, again utterly boring but its nealry impossible to kill a grouped buffed guy.

Try and defend a keep - well this just dosnt happen on Glasto. People here are more in it for the 8v8 or at least claim to be so keeps just dont/rarely swap hands.

Mythic really needs take alook at the bow classes.
At least rangers can be kinda kinky NS's and shadowzerk people.

Im sure im having a bad week/month

QQ

Go take some keeps people so i can sit in them trying to shoot peple.
 

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Ashala said:
if you find these you should be able to kill them but they rarely travel alone, or at all :)

bard
druid
cleric
2 handed paladin ?
1 handed + shield warden / hero / champion / merc / armsman / friar (just mace and shield) NOT specced in shield ?

....shit and some other classes cant remember them all, ofc your chances are bigger the lower rr they are and the higher you are :)

A hunter can't kill a decent Cleric and especially not a Druid.
What I normally did was on my Cleric(if you dont have MoC for MoC+shear):
Hunter starts shooting for 50-100 damage a pop (rapid fire) Move to around 1500 range and launch Zo pets + stun/root his pet, wait till the hunter is hit (now he has to melee) and stun+completely shear him and now you can just either 3 shot smite him or let the Zo pets kill him while spiralling.
On a Druid you can do the same or just ML9 your pet (if you are convoker) and start spiralling = free RPs.

A Bard will just Mez and run off (Hi Redb) or just sprint away with end5.
2h Pally.. don't know, could be quite close I guess.
All the others you have listed have no problem killing hunters.
 

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when my pally was 2h he used to munch hunters fairly easily. was a while back mind :)
 
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i dont care about TOA but sure i bet its even worse for hunters there.

2h pally well yeah solo it would prolly kill me easy enough if he gets close.
would be hard to kite somone chant healing all the time.
Would probably get added on by 1+2FG of albs or hibs anyway so its all pie in the sky.
 

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a good hunter can do well mate regardless of what people think and say on these boards.

Im not an expert on the class and I appreciate there are some issues with it. Especially versus all assasin classes where they evade half you shots, but you sux up everyone of their shots, at the same time being lifebained and debuffed. Meeting assasins up close and personal puts A LOT of players of hunters at low realm rank.

What should you do.

a) stick with the class. It takes time in this game to get to grip's with stealthers and you got to put a lot in before you start getting to know what you can achieve and what your limits are and develope a playstyle around that.

b) TEMPLATE TEMPLATE TEMPLATE. Imo go for like all out melee forget about bow. Get WH, SOM, high str, 300+ HP temp. Get FZ, PS, IP, PURGE, MOS and MOP in that order.

c) SPEAR > 2hand. (imo)

D) ENERGY SPEAR. Imo this is like the weapon of choice you should be going for. Rear stun while debuffed fucking hurts.

E) ABUSE that insta pet. give you a distinct advantage in terms of interupt and gives kite potential.

F) Stick with it, and you will get your own ideas about whats good and bad. You might even dismiss what i said here based on your own experience.

G) talk to the high RR hunters on server about the class. they will give you ideas and a solid opinion.

Have fun and take pride in your toon. (regardless of how good you think it is in the pecking order of toons)
 

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Efour said:
What classes are hunters ment to be able to solo/due these days?

Tried a vampire. well that was fun
Tried a Heratic. again that was mezz doted mezz doted 2 dead hunters.

Are there any other rediculous classes its not even worth trying?

Its already near impossible to kill a caster in a group when the seer is awake.

i died in an rvr zone. lots. :cheers:

heretics dont get mezz?!
 

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Andrilyn said:
A hunter can't kill a decent Cleric and especially not a Druid.
What I normally did was on my Cleric(if you dont have MoC for MoC+shear):
Hunter starts shooting for 50-100 damage a pop (rapid fire) Move to around 1500 range and launch Zo pets + stun/root his pet, wait till the hunter is hit (now he has to melee) and stun+completely shear him and now you can just either 3 shot smite him or let the Zo pets kill him while spiralling.
On a Druid you can do the same or just ML9 your pet (if you are convoker) and start spiralling = free RPs.

A Bard will just Mez and run off (Hi Redb) or just sprint away with end5.
2h Pally.. don't know, could be quite close I guess.
All the others you have listed have no problem killing hunters.

dont think you understood my post then

i litterly ment a 1 handed + shield specced merc ( and the other classes mentioned)

and not too sure about the cleric vs hunter thing you say :(
 
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ok not mezz whatever it was it was pathetic. sorry i stand corected.
 

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Efour said:
ok not mezz whatever it was it was pathetic. sorry i stand corected.

Reminds me of a certain person I know who always whines about overpowered sorcs even when we get zerged by 4 fg hibs.

<sighs>
 

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Ashala said:
and not too sure about the cleric vs hunter thing you say :(

Have yet to lose a fight vs a solo Hunter when I was soloing with my Cleric.

And the Heretic Mez animation is his Buffshear proc proccing.
 

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If you want my advice as an archer, you either need to outnumber what you're fighting as stealthers (against other steathers) or you'd be surprised how many casters can forget to put up BT.

If you're trying to randomly kill casters in a FG who are not suitably distracted, then you won't have a chance.

Find a spot where a group with casters lurks and follow the same one. A quick crit shot -> run and hide can result in you two shotting him a minute later.
 

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Personly im looking forward to playing my hunter at 50 in rvr on glast, never played a archer in rvr before but the only thing i thought would really pose a challenge is shield tanks, oh well might get some love by the time im 50 :p
 

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Kite/pet works well against Assasins, thet pet of yours will piss them off somewhat rotten.

I don't know how a good Hunter can loose to a Caster tbh :( they have so meny anti caster tricks
Once pet is on them, they can't stop you from shooting and deal with pet without RAs, and if they use RA's why can't you. They have access to FZ (combined with an Energy Spear doing Back chain normally kills most infs before they get off the FZ) they also have PS for annoying MoC3 sorcerers.
 

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hunter need artis and time to rise in the ranks, a low RR a hunter isnt all that but at higher RR they are fkin scary if played well..

Spec Bow at low lvls and farm at keeps for cheap RPs etc, then after say.. rr5 or so, go full meleespec and retemplate for it aswell. Prepare to bite the dust alot vs good assassins until you learn to deal with them. (if you already are rr5+, go full meleespecc asap imo and just learn to play it.. )

Regarding tankclasses etc.. dont expect to take down highDPStanks and you should be ok :)
 
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Solid advice, Its just on glasto. We dont have much keep or too much Tower rvr. There are always exceptions but alot of the time i arrive too late to have fun.

yep i know rr5 is the magic number but its one hell of a slog.

Im finding it hard to even pull up 10k rps a day some days not even 5k.

its going to take weeks to get anywhere at this rate lol.

I guess i just want it all now :O and thats not happening. Ill try it another week and just keep swearing down my mic. My ventrilo mates love me. :sex:
 

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Pirkel said:
Reminds me of a certain person I know who always whines about overpowered sorcs even when we get zerged by 4 fg hibs.

<sighs>

just a certain person?? or at least 50% of the guild you are in :p
 

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Shike said:
hunter need artis and time to rise in the ranks, a low RR a hunter isnt all that but at higher RR they are fkin scary if played well..

Spec Bow at low lvls and farm at keeps for cheap RPs etc, then after say.. rr5 or so, go full meleespec and retemplate for it aswell. Prepare to bite the dust alot vs good assassins until you learn to deal with them. (if you already are rr5+, go full meleespecc asap imo and just learn to play it.. )

Regarding tankclasses etc.. dont expect to take down highDPStanks and you should be ok :)

Dont get too disgruntled, collect your rp's steadily and equip yourself correctly and one day you will be just fine. As the poster of this says.

I got a serious kicking from one hunter last night and thats after i opened with a pa, i was dead in a flash. So played right with all the right stuff and you will do ok.
 

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Hi

HI Mate...

As a Heretic, i can offer advice on My class.

The "Mezz" you are refering to is actually the graphic from our Buffshear proc.

If you stand and shoot at me, you can be sure i will engage you and wait for all your self buffs to be sheared by my reactive Buffshear proc. (everytime you shoot at / hit a heretic, there is a chance that a buff on you will be sheared)

The other thing i will say to you, is that Heretics have an uniteruptable Focus spell. Whilst focusing this spell, ranged damage (including arrows and spells) will not interupt us. By the third tic of that spell i am doing 600+ damage (and it keeps getting higher every 3 second pulse!) Only melee damage can interupt a heretic focusing with the Torrential Blaze spell.

Lastly.. Count most tics to be Fully Buffed, even solo. Our set of self buffs cover all the major buffs available, including Spec AF, S/C, Absorb, Damage add, Damage shield, resist pierce, (except D/Q... but then CL abilities covers that for me)

When fully self buffed, i have over 2200 HP, an absorb like that of a tank, 1200 weaponskill (with only 27 in melee weapon) and i am by no means opted yet.. still missing a few template items...

With those things in mind... i will leave it up to you to decide how best use your tools against a tic.

I will say this though, i HAVE been beaten by a hunter 1 on 1... and it has been the only archer to ever beat me one on one. (He was smart, and used his tools well)

Stay with it mate, hunters are fun (i have one myself on Pryd)...

Good Luck.
 

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Urgat said:
I will say this though, i HAVE been beaten by a hunter 1 on 1... and it has been the only archer to ever beat me one on one. (He was smart, and used his tools well)

Stay with it mate, hunters are fun (i have one myself on Pryd)...

Good Luck.

lemme guess, he crit shot you while you were sitting down with a sexeh norse babe?
 

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Well i'm no twinked uber player or anything, but one hunter pwns more than any that i've been pwnd by (and i been pwnd by loads, so i know what i'm talkin about!) is Belxavier

From just about the beggining of DAoC time on Pryd, if i ever wandered into Hadrians Wall on my own, i'd nearly always see an arrow sticking out of my side and

Belxavier hit your soul for xxx damage!
Belxaviers bloody dog is chomping your balls for xxx damage!
Redi was just wtfpwnd by Belxavier in Hadrians Wall...
 

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Urgat said:
HI Mate...

As a Heretic, i can offer advice on My class.

The "Mezz" you are refering to is actually the graphic from our Buffshear proc.

If you stand and shoot at me, you can be sure i will engage you and wait for all your self buffs to be sheared by my reactive Buffshear proc. (everytime you shoot at / hit a heretic, there is a chance that a buff on you will be sheared)

The other thing i will say to you, is that Heretics have an uniteruptable Focus spell. Whilst focusing this spell, ranged damage (including arrows and spells) will not interupt us. By the third tic of that spell i am doing 600+ damage (and it keeps getting higher every 3 second pulse!) Only melee damage can interupt a heretic focusing with the Torrential Blaze spell.

Lastly.. Count most tics to be Fully Buffed, even solo. Our set of self buffs cover all the major buffs available, including Spec AF, S/C, Absorb, Damage add, Damage shield, resist pierce, (except D/Q... but then CL abilities covers that for me)

When fully self buffed, i have over 2200 HP, an absorb like that of a tank, 1200 weaponskill (with only 27 in melee weapon) and i am by no means opted yet.. still missing a few template items...

With those things in mind... i will leave it up to you to decide how best use your tools against a tic.

I will say this though, i HAVE been beaten by a hunter 1 on 1... and it has been the only archer to ever beat me one on one. (He was smart, and used his tools well)

Stay with it mate, hunters are fun (i have one myself on Pryd)...

Good Luck.

You want a lesson in spoiler tags old chap? You just gave all your secrets away :D

:fluffle:

;)
 

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Rediknight said:
Well i'm no twinked uber player or anything, but one hunter pwns more than any that i've been pwnd by (and i been pwnd by loads, so i know what i'm talkin about!) is Belxavier

From just about the beggining of DAoC time on Pryd, if i ever wandered into Hadrians Wall on my own, i'd nearly always see an arrow sticking out of my side and

Belxavier hit your soul for xxx damage!
Belxaviers bloody dog is chomping your balls for xxx damage!
Redi was just wtfpwnd by Belxavier in Hadrians Wall...

Aye - old skool and tip top hunter... fear Belx !!!! :D
 

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Sometimes its easier to kill high RR player than RR1, because they get so used to their skills. So if you see solo high RR player, it doesn't always mean u'd lose if you engage him/her.

Always worth to try, if you never try - you will never know what you are able to accomplish :drink:
 

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Andrilyn said:
Have yet to lose a fight vs a solo Hunter when I was soloing with my Cleric.

Just a shit hunter then really. Open with Razor's Edge with that thrust spear, hit battler and immediatly FZ the cleric. Cleric should be dead within the FZ without any chance of using an insta or anything else.

(this is on a TOA-server, classic is obviously a different ballpark)
 

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I see most solo PvP combat in a Tekken kind of way - no matter how skilled you are, no matter how many times you've practiced the twelve hit combo with king, a n00b can beat you in seconds spamming the lightpunch.

When you do something enough you see patterns emerge, you see the way the same classes use the same skills and get used to it - as soon as someone who isn't quite as experienced charges at you and does something which you're not expecting, it can throw your whole plan.

Complacency, thats the word (if not the spelling) i was after :D
 

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