What can go wrong on a patchday ?
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What where the systoms this time? Personely i got online, noticed my QB was screwed up, relogged and rezoned on my accounts and that was fixed. Then i proceded to ToA and hall of heroes, activated all my artifacts then ported SI zone for a good lvling spot (prydwen server). 3 of my friends did the same, we managed to get to the lvlingspot when the zone crashed.
Every other zone that i tried, including SI on Excal, looked fine except couldnt port SI/prydwen. I think the zone came up again only to crash after a minute or so and they decided to shut down all servers. They must have spotted something not visible for us customers..
Im not whining though, I have been waiting for this patch for a long time they can have a couple of days to fix it imo, plz just fix it before the weekend and im happy as a clown.
I think alot of ppl are thinking the same, we really wanted this patch and if it crashes the servers and we cannot play for a couple of days, fine so be it.... jedi.
Every other zone that i tried, including SI on Excal, looked fine except couldnt port SI/prydwen. I think the zone came up again only to crash after a minute or so and they decided to shut down all servers. They must have spotted something not visible for us customers..
Im not whining though, I have been waiting for this patch for a long time they can have a couple of days to fix it imo, plz just fix it before the weekend and im happy as a clown.
I think alot of ppl are thinking the same, we really wanted this patch and if it crashes the servers and we cannot play for a couple of days, fine so be it.... jedi.
Darzil
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I believe from previous posts (and no, I'm not going looking for them), that what you think of as a server is a cluster of servers. It's been stated that the GOA servers are higher spec than the Mythic ones. They have multiple zones on each server (which is why you can have hideous server lag on TOA, then zone into a TOA dungeon and have none - it's on another server) - each time you see a loading screen you are transferring Server. They can move zones from one server to another if one server is overloaded (when they are down), which they sometimes do (eg when NF came out, other stuff was moved off the frontier server (I believe it used to host the main cities too).
Not all the servers are set up as each other are - population differences mean that the sweet spot for performance varies with the server - so getting an exact match on a test server is tricky. Besides, actually getting 1000 people on to test realistically isn't easy.
I don't know exactly what the issue was yesterday (I had none - zoned fine between Camelot and Camelot Hills, and into the level 11-20 instance), but it sounds a bit like a more frequent version of the issue where you zone to character screen, rather than the place you expected (which is an intermittant issue, and is still there in the US in 1.82). I believe that it's what happens when for some reason the server you are trying to move to isn't available momentarily. Maybe one server, or a zone on it, was struggling with lots of people on it, and this didn't show in testing.
Darzil
Not all the servers are set up as each other are - population differences mean that the sweet spot for performance varies with the server - so getting an exact match on a test server is tricky. Besides, actually getting 1000 people on to test realistically isn't easy.
I don't know exactly what the issue was yesterday (I had none - zoned fine between Camelot and Camelot Hills, and into the level 11-20 instance), but it sounds a bit like a more frequent version of the issue where you zone to character screen, rather than the place you expected (which is an intermittant issue, and is still there in the US in 1.82). I believe that it's what happens when for some reason the server you are trying to move to isn't available momentarily. Maybe one server, or a zone on it, was struggling with lots of people on it, and this didn't show in testing.
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Biggilus
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ok with the servers and everythign but one thign worries me the most....
jesus christ man £147 for a toaster? to brown off some BREAD?!? what the hell sort of toaster is it? does it wank you off in the process? christ even the 'profesisonals' around the corner dont cost that much for a handjob, and i bet they woudlnt throw in toast as part of the deal either
mine cost about a tenner, yes it takes 4 slices yes it has a bun rack. no it cant control the weather and it doesnt make me rich.
lol where did you buy it from? i want to google it i truly do.
£147!!!!!!!
rampant said:well i burnt my pop tart and made a mess in my £147 toaster
jesus christ man £147 for a toaster? to brown off some BREAD?!? what the hell sort of toaster is it? does it wank you off in the process? christ even the 'profesisonals' around the corner dont cost that much for a handjob, and i bet they woudlnt throw in toast as part of the deal either
mine cost about a tenner, yes it takes 4 slices yes it has a bun rack. no it cant control the weather and it doesnt make me rich.
lol where did you buy it from? i want to google it i truly do.
£147!!!!!!!
Golena
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scorge said:i disagree, the test enviroment should mimic a live enviroment as much as possible, and that includes simulating thousands of connections at once. I understand that minor bugs might find there way in, in which a hot fix with limited server downtime can be applied.
But for exteneded downtime and the the servers closed because people cannot login to various zones shows that testing was not done correctly.
As much as it mimic's a live environment it simply isn't one. Opening Gorre upto the public might catch one or two extra things, but it would more likely just mean they spent time fixing things that were Gorre bugs instead of Live server bugs.
A space shuttle exploded because someone missed a semi-colon at the end of a line of code. What may appear to be a small minor bug to you, can completely mess up just about every piece of information on a server. Someone could do something as simple as call their character a name that hadn't been tested and corrupt the entire data base due to a simple software bug, characters, zones the whole lot. Testing helps catch bugs, it will never and can never catch them all. I'd much rather they spent 12 hours fixing it properly than try to patch a workaround in and cause a far more serious problem.
Most of the people whining that it takes 24 hours to apply a patch to a live server really need to go understand computing slightly better, then come back and whine. Most systems will have downtime when a patch is applied, unless someone spends alot more time actually creating the patch. Which would you rather have.. the new patch now with 24 hours server downtime or the patch sometime in 2008 with 5 minutes downtime..
Flimgoblin
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atos said:
it doesn't get a real live environment.
Last time they did that we had about 100 people in the bowl in OF emain dueling...
and not one of them noticed that caster AF buffs and absorb buffs weren't working.
