What can go wrong on a patchday ?

[St.Anger]

I'm a technical noob when it comes to this, but patches are tested, approved and implemented. Almost every patch something goes wrong tho. Anyone can explain to me why ?

P.S. I don't intend to whine, just to understand

 

[Naffets]

Considering the previous track record, a lot can go wrong it seems.

 

[rampant]

well i burnt my pop tart and made a mess in my £147 toaster

 

[snushanen]

I am not a daoc server specialist.

But i think the servers may behave and respond a little different to the patch then their testing simulators. Ofc it complicate things when loads of people are joining too right after reopening and then they realise that the server has behaved different then they expected.

(And as posted in another thread maybe Requiel spilled his cofee at the servers )

I am not to upset about this , maybe a little because the lack of information

 

[Wilburn]

Considering the previous track record, a lot can go wrong it seems.

the truth is often a short reply

 

[Casiraghi]

I'll bet 1 plat that XML wont be working straight away

 

[Brohanith]

I'll bet 1 plat that XML wont be working straight away

Cas!!

big /hug!

 

[Kaun_IA]

there are soooooo freaking meny things that can go wrong.
first thing i can think of is that the new patch didnt work as it did on the test server and the servers didnt respond well to the flood of ppl comeing in...

but yea, thats my guess... couse i dont know how exactly do theyr servers work and pla pla pla pla etc

 

[Naffets]

I'll bet 1 plat that XML wont be working straight away

5p.

 

[Gear]

The sun might explode!

 

[Golena]

No matter how much you test something on a test server, it's impossible to fully simulate what happens when 1000 people log on from off site premises. Writing bug free software is pretty much impossible on this scale, I think the normal phrase used is that software can be considered bug free when the last user has stopped using it.

 

[Belomar]

I'd actually say GOA's track record of recent patches is excellent.

 

[Krakatau]

No matter how much you test something on a test server, it's impossible to fully simulate what happens when 1000 people log on from off site premises.

I remember when there was fully populated servers
1000 people...soon there will be 500 and then...

 

[Buddha_dasa]

I do agree with other posters about it being impossible to completely predict the effects of a patch, the dynamics of a live environment are so very different to a test environment we can kind of expect things like this to happen.

One question does spring to mind though, these patches have gone live in the USA a considerable time earlier than when they reach us in Europe and one would think that similar issues would have presented there and could have been predicted or forseen on the Euro servers? I assume they run on the same platform and possibly on identical hardware.

When DR was released for instance, my Radeon Graphics card was almost unusable in camelot city. After a bit of hunting around I found out this was a 'known error' on the US version but it took a few weeks for a driver recommendation to come via the technical help in europe.

This isn't a criticism of GOA or Mythic at all, I don't know anything about the technical set up, the servers in the USA or implementing patches for online games, it is a very complex thing to do I'm just curious about how the two teams work together on things like this and how they share technical information about patch roll-outs, known errors etc.

Has anyone had experience of patches going wrong on the US servers?

 

[Guden mcik]

dont even think the will come back up to day

 

[Corran]

I do agree with other posters about it being impossible to completely predict the effects of a patch, the dynamics of a live environment are so very different to a test environment we can kind of expect things like this to happen.

One question does spring to mind though, these patches have gone live in the USA a considerable time earlier than when they reach us in Europe and one would think that similar issues would have presented there and could have been predicted or forseen on the Euro servers? I assume they run on the same platform and possibly on identical hardware.

When DR was released for instance, my Radeon Graphics card was almost unusable in camelot city. After a bit of hunting around I found out this was a 'known error' on the US version but it took a few weeks for a driver recommendation to come via the technical help in europe.

This isn't a criticism of GOA or Mythic at all, I don't know anything about the technical set up, the servers in the USA or implementing patches for online games, it is a very complex thing to do I'm just curious about how the two teams work together on things like this and how they share technical information about patch roll-outs, known errors etc.

Has anyone had experience of patches going wrong on the US servers?

Mythic setup and GoA server setup are completely different. This means Mythic have to recode the patches to work on the GoA servers - and it also needs to be translated to several languages after that. This is why problems crop up over here that do not crop up in the US... well in a simplified way that is

 

[Gamah]

Hello Corran my little snuggle bunnykins!

 

[Behmoth]

surely you mean what goes wrong every patch day? seems to be down for at least a full day every patch now

 

[Bush]

I'm a technical noob when it comes to this, but patches are tested, approved and implemented. Almost every patch something goes wrong tho. Anyone can explain to me why ?

P.S. I don't intend to whine, just to understand

they dl to much porn i guess, thats why we get lag every day.
porn + patchday = crash i think.

 

[Behmoth]

I'll bet 1 plat that XML wont be working straight away

i bet 1 plat it's at least a month before its up and running again as per usual

 

[Honza]

There is like 1000000 things that can screw up....
And following Murphy's laws:
What can screw up gets screwed up,
What can't screw up screws up too.

 

[Blow]

lets hope that the test with broceliande will work good

 

[xxManiacxx]

surely you mean what goes wrong every patch day? seems to be down for at least a full day every patch now

I remember DR launch went as smooth as anyone could hope

 

[Raven]

lots of people have very short memories

 

[Teh FnoRd]

I think to many of you are like this kid every time GoA takes 5 mins more than you allow.
As for my self I took a long walk last night.

 

[Karl]

I think to many of you are like this kid every time GoA takes 5 mins more than you allow.

The posts in this thread didnt seem to bad?

 

[[GOA]Erivoss]

lets hope that the test with broceliande will work good

it did

 

[scorge]

I am not a daoc server specialist.

But i think the servers may behave and respond a little different to the patch then their testing simulators.

I do agree with other posters about it being impossible to completely predict the effects of a patch, the dynamics of a live environment are so very different to a test environment we can kind of expect things like this to happen.

i disagree, the test enviroment should mimic a live enviroment as much as possible, and that includes simulating thousands of connections at once. I understand that minor bugs might find there way in, in which a hot fix with limited server downtime can be applied.
But for exteneded downtime and the the servers closed because people cannot login to various zones shows that testing was not done correctly.

 

[Greenfingers]

I think to many of you are like this kid every time GoA takes 5 mins more than you allow.
As for my self I took a long walk last night.

understanding partly what he said was fucking fun! xD

 

[Ezeine]

it did

Any ETA on servers ?