What about minstrel?

[Triuns]

tú aliorm no eres más tonto porque no eres más pekeño, pa tí carino :kissit: :kissit: .

Well minstrel is very good for duos, and bahamot how long time that u don´t play ur minstrel? xD, i think that u don´t know how are the groups now, well minstrel heal song... yes but in combat? mmm no, power song yes but in combat? mmm no, aoe mez 5 cast sec and dex don´t afect mmm yes i will do it in fight when i get damage xD, stund afected by determination weee 2 sec efect, and without determination with resist is less duration.... well dds are good but get lots of power and endurance i think this is good, evade crap, yes chain but the life is roge life, climb wall yes but with uber minci steal = nothing xD and with see hidden omagad, free pa for minstrels xDD, i am not whine only want know if i am the only pep that see this, and ablative yes seems good, zephyr yes rox, but in damage.... very bad, with debufs... vs sb no hit xD all evade.

well, i only want know if more people think equal than me, but pls for said stupid things don´t post.

sorry for my english xD, i try to learn more each day...

 

[LordjOX]

minci :>

 

[Galaha]

http://www.insultmonger.com/swearing/spanish.htm

 

[Arnor]

http://www.insultmonger.com/swearing/spanish.htm

te como e tuta m8r :x

(means i love you in spanish)


pps: Tu madre tiene un bigote

 

[Light]

give mins dual wield imo

 

[bahamot]

tú aliorm no eres más tonto porque no eres más pekeño, pa tí carino :kissit: :kissit: .

Well minstrel is very good for duos, and bahamot how long time that u don´t play ur minstrel?

maybe 2 months ago
Minstrel is still a very good interupter with all those instants

 

[elbeek]

Baha said it all. Its not the class but the player. I love my mincer and never struggle to find a group. I also enjoy soloing. TBH leave mincers alone and givf armsmen some wubbing.

 

[Krane]

Lol at refreshed avatar Z xD

 

[Triuns]

well baha know minstrel haven´t got spot en group xD, i was grouping all day with my cleric and no minstrel in any group xD, some groups still keep minstrel but seems now minstrel ins´t good.

well bb see all tomorrow.

 

[Tilda]

Talk in english only please guys.

 

[WiZe^]

Talk in english only please guys.

Rofl !!! love u r new avatar

 

[rvn]

Except damage.

with good equipment and artifacts, a minstrel can dish out like 800 dmg from dds + 7*200 dmg from meleeing, thats like 2.2k dmg (zephyr + stun) (and imo doing 200 - 300 dmg with a slow 1h:er aint that shitty dmg, but its all up to what equip you have etc.)

 

[Icebreaker]

Me parece que la vena de la lengua pasa por tu culo porque hablas mucha mierda Aliorm ;x

Pakete!

 

[Aloca]

Regular Freddie Triuns i have a little soloing video for you.

A video of Alpha getting the jump on me (on purpose from me tho) to see how big chanse i had vs him in that situation
ftp://aqe2.campus.luth.se/alpha.avi

Also remember that he have SoS+FA, IP,AP left to use. and he could also have charmed a pet.

 

[arizr]

Except damage.

what about bards? random_bard01 hits you for 27dmg xDDD

 

[Dathcald]

Mincers are really bad off, I feel for them :/ After all, they don't have lifetap nor can they pbae, what an oversight.

 

[Triuns]

yes but alpha male are rr10 xD or rr11 xD is very very diferent xD.
But thanks cyclodia xD i hope that this film is toalizate , cos i am speaking about minstrel in ToA no pretoa.

 

[Puppet]

Regular Freddie Triuns i have a little soloing video for you.

A video of Alpha getting the jump on me (on purpose from me tho) to see how big chanse i had vs him in that situation
ftp://aqe2.campus.luth.se/alpha.avi

Also remember that he have SoS+FA, IP,AP left to use. and he could also have charmed a pet.

Ofcourse you got 0 chance when a RR11 minstrel with FZ gets the DD,DD,mezz jump on you . If an archer comes in the same situation you can expect to get owned too except you will never ever reach him in melee since you're dead before that .

 

[Danya]

with good equipment and artifacts, a minstrel can dish out like 800 dmg from dds + 7*200 dmg from meleeing, thats like 2.2k dmg (zephyr + stun) (and imo doing 200 - 300 dmg with a slow 1h:er aint that shitty dmg, but its all up to what equip you have etc.)

Still a lot less damage in the time than many other classes.

 

[Light]

A well played mins in a grp should not be overlooked. Might do alot less damage than others classes but has decent hps and with ap/ip/phase shift can take a fair amount of damage and stay up bringing with them

4 insta shouts on short timers + wep = fiar amount of interupts including a stun (which even on a det tank can give your caster/support enough time to get away to assist nuke or cc themselves - mainly when no slam tank in grp)

purge/sos - sort of a alb gp and can well turn a battle for a caster group

backup demezz

backup mezz

FZ - taking a caster out for 10 secs or very usefull to get a pesky tank of a caster/support

speed - some think this not so important anymore, but without speed 5 you find you get jumped alot more from behind before you can see them, whereas at relatively same speed as they will be inc gives you alot more chance to see them and be ready. Also more speed - more ground covered = more chance of more fights

+ with wep and dd's can do decent damage actually to help assist when finishing a fight of or all enemy support/casters locked down. Still with all of the above available if necessary.

how many other alb classes can bring this utility combined with decent survivability.

ofc this is based on a well played mins same as any class

 

[Kpax]

Still a lot less damage in the time than many other classes.

So with all this stuff in Instruments line, you want mincer to do dmg like merc or somth?
Not going to happen.

 

[Snarks]

Just a quick question but is Cant of Perplexity any use in RvR? I've not tried it yet and as my mincer is only ML2 i don't have any useful abilities as yet.

 

[Leathas]

then grp with an idiot cabalist and gank archers in odins all the time

right impop?

 

[Gordonax]

with good equipment and artifacts, a minstrel can dish out like 800 dmg from dds.

Maybe on someone with zero resists, but not on most people. And the lower DD gets resisted too often to make 800 regularly even on someone zephyred and stunned.

Same goes for the melee damage - 200-300*7 per swing is assuming EVERYTHING hits, which at 30+whatever slash doesn't happen often (and of course I'm assuming you're quoting 200-300 for someone who's slash-weak, as against a slash-resistant armour type you won't get that).

 

[Light]

Just a quick question but is Cant of Perplexity any use in RvR? I've not tried it yet and as my mincer is only ML2 i don't have any useful abilities as yet.

yes it interupts

 

[Whisperess]

which at 30+whatever slash doesn't happen often

Then it's a spec problem, not a class problem.

 

[Danya]

So with all this stuff in Instruments line, you want mincer to do dmg like merc or somth?
Not going to happen.

No, not at all, I think minstrels are balanced on the damage front.
How is my stating a fact (which was intended to rebut the "they have everything" thing) taken to be "omg m8s minstrel r sux, gifv more dmg!!11"? Try reading what is said rather than putting your own spin on things.

 

[Snarks]

yes it interupts

Cheers mate, now to find a spare slot on my 3 qbars for it

 

[Gordonax]

Then it's a spec problem, not a class problem.

Well of course, you could spec 50instr/43 slash instead... and lose wall climbing and stealth, which reduces you to "open field" RvR only, reducing your utility significantly.

 

[Arnor]

Maybe on someone with zero resists, but not on most people. And the lower DD gets resisted too often to make 800 regularly even on someone zephyred and stunned.

Same goes for the melee damage - 200-300*7 per swing is assuming EVERYTHING hits, which at 30+whatever slash doesn't happen often (and of course I'm assuming you're quoting 200-300 for someone who's slash-weak, as against a slash-resistant armour type you won't get that).

lets just for sake of argument say he does 1500dmg on that period of time, your still at a pretty big advantage no?