Werewolf #15

[Rubric]

I am a bit torn now. I am looking thinking Ch3tan but maybe i am being clouded by his what felt like a little personal attacks on me earlier on. Can't blame him for being defensive if he is innocent though. I am also concerned about Olgaline a little. He seems to have bandwagoned Ch3t a bit and be defending me. If he is a wolf and gets lynched oday he may be trying to divert attention from his true partner.

If i am wrong then Ch3t is the wolf with either Dam or Jup as a partner.

Unvote: Ch3tan

 

[Ch3tan]

LOL. If you are wrong then you know who the wolves are on day one?

No one can know anything for certain right now bar the wolves, the seer may have got lucky last night, but as we have no one fighting for a lynch on a particular person I really doubt it.

 

[ECA]

I can see ch3t jumping on daminis vote to try and get a bandwagon rolling and who jumps on but randombastard?

unvote rubric
vote randombastard

 

[Rubric]

LOL. If you are wrong then you know who the wolves are on day one?

No one can know anything for certain right now bar the wolves, the seer may have got lucky last night, but as we have no one fighting for a lynch on a particular person I really doubt it.

Well it's been a long day 1 and i suspect 4 people, thats a third of our village, however i have them in teams in my eyes so if someone turns out innocent then it points to others an eliminates some in my mind. However as you rightly point out its day 1 so i may have more or less suspects tomorrow.

I didn't think the Seer got an action before day 1 only after day 1?

 

[Ch3tan]

Which makes it 4 for Olgaline, who I really do not trust after re-reading the thread. He has said very little, his only content of any note is the fact that I have switched votes a few times, a fact he has repeated twice. He has seemed to target me, and build a case despite the lack of anything compelling. Now it would be more interesting to see who unvotes olgaline or does not vote him if he gets another vote or two.

I see where you are going ECA, but maybe it was a bit early.... wait for more villager sto finish in the fields and have their say?

 

[Ch3tan]

This game begins with a night phase, without kills. If you have a night action which does not involve killing or protecting, please PM myself.

Well it's been a long day 1 and i suspect 4 people, thats a third of our village, however i have them in teams in my eyes so if someone turns out innocent then it points to others an eliminates some in my mind. However as you rightly point out its day 1 so i may have more or less suspects tomorrow.

I didn't think the Seer got an action before day 1 only after day 1?

Gah! do people not read the rules anymore?

 

[Olgaline]

hmm...
you mean exept for the fact that I've been one of the most active players since i got back sunday?

also notice how Ch3tan is quick to point out the number of votes now ?
I could have done that as well when it was 4-5 on ch3tan.

also abit annoyed that some here keep getting at that I bandwagoned ch3tan How!?
I actually gave a reason and i was only the third or fourth vote. am I not allowed to vote?

also I could easily argue that Rubrics unvote for ch3tan is just as suspeciose as anyone unvoting me from now on, if not even more so with ch3tans statment following rubrics unvote for him.

 

[Ch3tan]

Well then argue it. I have read your previous 7 posts, and you haven't actually offered anything. You have asked ECA on combos, thrown doubt at me. But nothing else. If you have offered more than please point it out for me.

Also you seem to like making assumptions from my posts, I am quick to point out the number of votes? Well of course I am, the point I was making revolved entirely around the number of votes people have.

If you could have done the same to me when I had 4 votes (although I thought I only ever had 3 at any one time), then why did you not? Also what exactly is it that you would have pointed out? Elaborate, because you are looking more and more like a wolf who has dug a hole and does not know how to put the spade down.

 

[Jimmy]

it would be nice if the seer got lucky but even if he did i doubt he would open on day one with "KILL THIS PERSON NOW"

he likey to have him self eaten or worse

 

[Olgaline]

It's not just that you've switched votes, it's also wich votes you've switched to and from. You were very quick, to switch trains after damini's vote for me, up until then you had a close race "from your perspective" between me and Rubric as soon as momentum started on me you jumped, infact within the hour.

 

[Ch3tan]

it would be nice if the seer got lucky but even if he did i doubt he would open on day one with "KILL THIS PERSON NOW"

he likey to have him self eaten or worse

Yes that is true, but it depends on what kind of seer we have, a selfless one or a selfish one.

 

[Jimmy]

I am also concerned about Olgaline a little. He seems to have bandwagoned Ch3t a bit and be defending me. If he is a wolf and gets lynched oday he may be trying to divert attention from his true partner.

reads to me like your trying to distence your self from olgaline rather than him trying to frame you

 

[Jimmy]

Yes that is true, but it depends on what kind of seer we have, a selfless one or a selfish one.

not sure how you mean surele its good to have a seer last a few days before they shows themself

 

[Ch3tan]

It's not just that you've switched votes, it's also wich votes you've switched to and from. You were very quick, to switch trains after damini's vote for me, up until then you had a close race "from your perspective" between me and Rubric as soon as momentum started on me you jumped, infact within the hour.

And I would have jumped sooner had I checked the thread earlier. I do not believe Rubric was a wolf, but he was convenient to see who voted for whom.

That is the last vote switch I made, show me and everyone else exactly what is dodgy about my other vote switches?

 

[Ch3tan]

not sure how you mean

If a seer knew of a wolf on day one, they could try and see who voted with them and mark them as likely suspects. Then they have a choice. Speak out against the known wolf, cast suspicion on their potential pack mates and risk being targeted that night. Or they could gamble, be quiet, let a villager be lynched, try and check the potential pack mates that night and hope they do not die before it is day 2.

 

[Jimmy]

If a seer knew of a wolf on day one, they could try and see who voted with them and mark them as likely suspects. Then they have a choice. Speak out against the known wolf, cast suspicion on their potential pack mates and risk being targeted that night. Or they could gamble, be quiet, let a villager be lynched, try and check the potential pack mates that night and hope they do not die before it is day 2.

then i hope we got lucky and they choose to speak out rather then let us be killed off.

 

[gohan]

what i find most suspicious is ECA and ch3t arent voting for each other an calling for bandwagons on one another

jup isnt drunk somewhere ... maybe he is he has been quiet

and damini hasnt yet accsussed every 1 in the village of being a wolf


also no1 has made jokes about estate agents :O

where is the sanity

 

[Ch3tan]

That was probably a bit too simple, I forgot to mention the doc, sk and vigilante. All who could have a profound effect on the night stage. If we were really unlucky, we could lynch a innocent, have the wolves kill someone, the sk kill someone and the vig kill someone. 4 players down.

 

[Olgaline]

First off all I'm not doing anything that you arent doing, so by that account your just as suspeciouse As I am. The only thing I can see that might suggest your innocence is that you activity. wolfs tend to stay quite.

well it could easily be a tactic of a: wolf #1 try to get momentum, once a clear candidate emerges one wolf sticks with it while the other wolf #2 quietly waits, this is hardly an unkown tactic, at least not in mafia games. I know at leat Tohtori ahs used it once or twice in the mafia games f.exp

be loud and trow around accussations until something sticks, teamed with a quiet accomplis

 

[Ch3tan]

what i find most suspicious is ECA and ch3t arent voting for each other an calling for bandwagons on one another

jup isnt drunk somewhere ... maybe he is he has been quiet

and damini hasnt yet accsussed every 1 in the village of being a wolf


also no1 has made jokes about estate agents :O

where is the sanity

re jup and his drinking, the point was made on page 1.

What, no claims of innocence? No mention of ale? Hmmm.............

re Damini, if people bothered to re-read the thread the might find that what they think they remember is wrong. She has voted for three different people and discussed her suspicions.

I might as well get this out of the way, since I always tend to stab innocent people with pitchforks and singe their hair with burning torches, while being blissfully ignorant of who the wolves are until much later on...

So:

Vote: Jupitus

Because I know it will generate a lot of talking, and there's nothing better to get people to show their hand.

Sorry Jup.

Right ho, biznitches - I've been busy with the parent's visiting, though why they'd want to stay somewhere with such a high mortality rate is beyond me... However, they've safely departed now, so it's time for some good old fashioned rabble rousing.

unvote: Jupitus

vote: Jimmy

I'm just going to lash out mindlessly at people, and wait for someone to growl back at me, ala The Great Escape.

You ALWAYS think it's me and Ch3t, holding paws, skipping through the village. It's your default setting

I'm suspicious of the Ch3tan bandwagon, just as I would be suspicious of an ECA bandwagon, as those are the two people I'd see as the greatest threat if I was a wolf, and so those are the two people I'd want to get shot of ASAP.

I'm curious about the "You need me" shout from Rubric, which could be implying he has some important role to play, but it's very early in the game to show your hand with only the slightest bit of provocation. Would someone who was really important say so at this stage?


Just Sydrik to vote, and Random retracted his vote so needs to cast again. Since I find the Ch3tan bandwagon odd, I'm going to change my vote yet again to one of the Ch3tan voters, so without much further ado...

unvote: Jimmy
vote: BOBBY

Though I may well change it to Olgaline. I'm looking at Rubric, Olgaline and Bobby as wolves, but hey ho, you know how utterly wrong I always am at the beginning.

As for the serial killer... Bleh. I hate having a serial killer lose. With nobody to side with them, it's just a case of burning people to see which one is clutching a lampshade made of human skin :/

You are right with your first post though, the reason being that ECA talks sense and if we start a war then one of us will lose, and I do not believe that is in the best interests of the village.

I also don't like ch3t bringing up my name in his last post, it was clear rubric was inferring we as a village need him rather than me specifically yet he brought my name up.

ECA will like this even less then I also have not gone for Random, who is another historical target for me. Maybe the three of us are wolf buddies?

 

[Ch3tan]

First off all I'm not doing anything that you arent doing, so by that account your just as suspeciouse As I am. The only thing I can see that might suggest your innocence is that you activity. wolfs tend to stay quite.

well it could easily be a tactic of a: wolf #1 try to get momentum, once a clear candidate emerges one wolf sticks with it while the other wolf #2 quietly waits, this is hardly an unkown tactic, at least not in mafia games. I know at leat Tohtori ahs used it once or twice in the mafia games f.exp

be loud and trow around accussations until something sticks, teamed with a quiet accomplis

Yes you are doing something that I am not, you are making accusations and vague theories without even attempting to back them up. I asked you to show me why my vote switches that you keep harping on about are dodgy but you still have not. If you are going to accuse then be prepared to back it up.

 

[Olgaline]

I'm hardly the one throwing around the strongest accusations here!
Well If defending your self is accusing then sure I guess, but with the amount of votes on my back and your relentless persute on me what els would you have me do ?

The difference between you and I is this:
I've given a reason why you where my prime suspect, And I've never stated that I'm Unwilling to review that. yet your the one constantly throwing around the word wolf and relentlessly attacking each of and everyone off my posts. pressing for a lynch

 

[Ch3tan]

Then give me a reason not to, for the third or fourth time of asking. Analyse my votes for everyone and tell me exactly what is wrong with them. You have said they are dodgy but not why.

I will keep asking until you do, and in my eyes you look more suspect everytime you fail to do so.

 

[Olgaline]

I did give you a clear reason, you seem to want to ignore it tho:

It's not just that you've switched votes, it's also wich votes you've switched to and from. You were very quick, to switch trains after damini's vote for me, up until then you had a close race "from your perspective" between me and Rubric as soon as momentum started on me you jumped, infact within the hour.

and I stated why the jump tactic can be benaficail from a wolf/mafia tactical view.

well it could easily be a tactic of a: wolf #1 try to get momentum, once a clear candidate emerges one wolf sticks with it while the other wolf #2 quietly waits, this is hardly an unkown tactic, at least not in mafia games. I know at leat Tohtori ahs used it once or twice in the mafia games f.exp

be loud and trow around accussations until something sticks, teamed with a quiet accomplis

so I've given you these clear reasons.
-----------------------------------------

secondly I'll say this,
maybe people should start focusing on who's voting for me instead and why.

here is a break down from my perspective:

- I confirm the game, and go off for the weekend. "I challenge anyone to find any posts by me on this entire forum from friday afternoon to when i got back sunday evening"
- I see that two people have gone for "the new guy" me and for being quiet
- I deside i better say something, but didnt want to act too fast so.... "should have kept my trap shut like levin and co"
- I review the the posts and being new I wanted to stay out of the spot light and kinda go with the flow and not make to many enamies as I know from the mafia games that the trigger is loose on the new guys.
- I arrive at my most likely suspect at the time "ch3tan" and cast my vote.

suddenly I'm an evil wolf and bandwagoning!!!

 

[Ch3tan]

I just dont know Ch3tan,
I'm really wanting to give you the benifit of the dout here,
as at the moment your posts seem more defencesive than sinister really.
But one thing has me suspeciose towards you and thats the simple fact that you've
during the span of 4 pages have placed no less than 3 votes.
this to me has me worried and it looks very much like a posible fishing tactic!


ECA:
care to elaborate on your combo theories btw ?
especially ch3tan+damini
I somehow dout ch3tan+rubric, as with 3 votes ch3tan we would
have seen some form of retraction by rubric by now.?

Well, as you might know, you dont nessersarily learn anything on day one, but you can however learn alot from day one

For now tho' I'm going to go with my best bet wich is ch3tan.

Vote: Ch3tan

Uhm! :S
that was a fast switch ch3tan,
and your 4'th vote change, you seem very eager to have someone, infact anyone lynched!

No Olgaline, you gave me a reason for my last vote change, which I answered already. Tell me why my other three votes were dodgy, they made me your "best bet", but why?

 

[gohan]

No Olgaline, you gave me a reason for my last vote change, which I answered already. Tell me why my other three votes were dodgy, they made me your "best bet", but why?

because your a safe vote, no repercusions, if u dont get burned you get shot or eaten, muchos fun for all the family

 

[Olgaline]

are you delibrately trying to ignore this bit ?

tactic of a: wolf #1 try to get momentum, once a clear candidate emerges one wolf sticks with it while the other wolf #2 quietly waits, this is hardly an unkown tactic, at least not in mafia games. I know at leat Tohtori ahs used it once or twice in the mafia games f.exp

be loud and trow around accussations until something sticks, teamed with a quiet accomplis

as I've said already it wouldnt be the first time I've seen that tactic used
it was the only thing I had to go on at the time,

Oh and for the record!
if I infact was a wolf, and being the new guy, dont you think I would have gone for a random target with no votes on him or just posted a few posts without actually voting to stay low and inconspicuose ?

allas tho' I fear that I'm wasting my breath here, since A: as you said you "dont like me"
and will keep at it no matter what i bring fourth to defend myself
or B your infact a wolf,

either way it seems pointless for me to carry on defending myself

 

[RandomBastard]

ECA will like this even less then I also have not gone for Random, who is another historical target for me. Maybe the three of us are wolf buddies?

If the three of us were wolves... the village would be screwed....

 

[Rubric]

it would be nice if the seer got lucky but even if he did i doubt he would open on day one with "KILL THIS PERSON NOW"

he likey to have him self eaten or worse

reads to me like your trying to distence your self from olgaline rather than him trying to frame you

not sure how you mean surele its good to have a seer last a few days before they shows themself

then i hope we got lucky and they choose to speak out rather then let us be killed off.

Your coming into my radar as Olg's acomplice tbh.

 

[Ch3tan]

If you are looking for an accomplice it is more likely to be gohan, he voted for olgaline, but as soon as others started doing the same he switched.

That is assuming that olgaline is a wolf though.