Weapskill? ;x

[Huntingtons]

Wouldn't it be best to use 2 of those then, for 14% melee/style dmg? :x

yeah, but malice proc > ml10 procs (there's some nice ones but malice proc > all)

 

[SoulFly]

Noobs.

 

[Straef]

yeah, but malice proc > ml10 procs (there's some nice ones but malice proc > all)

Dropped battler, not malice Battler proc is pointless, hardly need any more accuracy when you have 2200 weapskill.

 

[Tsabo]

Well what you saying is impossible to test hence why no one knew it until the TL's brought it up(including me) since stats(str/dex) and weapon spec change weaponskill which results in you never being able to see if weaponskill does effect damage.(or involved within the formula)

Inf A - 50+16CS 35+16Slash 200str has say 1500 WS
Inf B - 50+16CS 50+16Slash 200str has say 2000 WS

For example this would never happen ^^ as you would have to change stat or spec to alter the weaponskill of each, it would be the same if they both 50+16 slash 50+16 cs and 200 str.So i am wondering if the TL's got this from mythic as you can no way test it as you would have to change stat or spec to make their weaponskills different which they say are involved in the formula.

They aren't the same spec though, one is 35slash one is 50 slash.

 

[Haggus]

Noobs.

:worthy:

 

[Sycho]

They aren't the same spec though, one is 35slash one is 50 slash.

Miss read but you know what i mean anyway, it's impossible to test if you think about it as you have to change weapon spec or stat to change the weaponskill but you want them the same and the weaponskill different which is impossible but it's the only way to see the true answer.So it makes me wonder if they got it from mythic.

 

[Sycho]

Hmmm ignore above post, i am too fucked in the head to understand some things lately. xD

You are right tsabo, but it isn't worth doing on slash merc due to backslash unless the merc solos and wants more parry.If i ever come back would be interesting trying this anyway.

 

[mikke]

Noobs.

hehe, you tell them sf

 

[Gazon]

Hmmm ignore above post, i am too fucked in the head to understand some things lately. xD

You are right tsabo, but it isn't worth doing on slash merc due to backslash unless the merc solos and wants more parry.If i ever come back would be interesting trying this anyway.

:worthy: Sycho

 

[Tsabo]

Hmmm ignore above post, i am too fucked in the head to understand some things lately. xD

You are right tsabo, but it isn't worth doing on slash merc due to backslash unless the merc solos and wants more parry.If i ever come back would be interesting trying this anyway.

Well my merc so far is lvl 48..

42 sheild
47 DW
37 Slash

Getting there and I'm going to be testing the idea of, leg it up to em with Charge, Slam, then begin using flank and such positionals.

 

[Cloudz]

Dropped battler, not malice Battler proc is pointless, hardly need any more accuracy when you have 2200 weapskill.

you dont have 2200 ws though, you have 220 ws :<

 

[Matriarch|Sneakers]

It's not true, you can see by res sickness, so you are saying when you get a str buff THAT increases weaponskill that does nothing too then?

Of course it increases damage, it's obvious or we may aswell not use buffs at all right?

Well as said b4, ws is just a measure of how well ur doing. That str buff ur talking about is adding to ur str and accordingly boosting ur dmg wich will be indicated by a boost in ws.

And according to wyrds 51+ in any melee tree is a waste if ur not using those styles to make dmg and as sycho said, a slash merc uses both DW and SLASH since the two diff melee trees styles combined has higher growthrate then if only one tree were to be used. ( not sure anyone got that but... )

 

[Straef]

Well my merc so far is lvl 48..

42 sheild
47 DW
37 Slash

Getting there and I'm going to be testing the idea of, leg it up to em with Charge, Slam, then begin using flank and such positionals.

Wouldn't it make more sense to go for 50 slash than 50 dw if making a hybrid?

 

[Tsabo]

Wouldn't it make more sense to go for 50 slash than 50 dw if making a hybrid?

No, I plan to use sheild purely for slam then switch to DW again. Final spec will be...

50DW
37Slash (To get to 51 with +'s)
42 Sheild
Left overs in Parry

This way I charge, slam, then start Flanking etc, using pure DW styles i sill do just as much damage as a 50dw 50slash merc, but i will have the option to slam aswell, which means more guarantee on positionals formyself and for the others in grp etc.

 

[Eva]

Yes, but you will have a very bad behind chain, bad anytimer. You keep a nice front positional, side and gain a 9 sec time anytimer stun which you manually have to swap. When the enemies are stun immune they'll probably run, and then you will do fk all damage. That's why you got 50 slash/thrust/crush. To get a good behind style and anytimer. If you want stun go 50 crush to get 5 or 6 sec anytimer stun in crush line.

 

[Tsabo]

Yes, but you will have a very bad behind chain, bad anytimer. You keep a nice front positional, side and gain a 9 sec time anytimer stun which you manually have to swap. When the enemies are stun immune they'll probably run, and then you will do fk all damage. That's why you got 50 slash/thrust/crush. To get a good behind style and anytimer. If you want stun go 50 crush to get 5 or 6 sec anytimer stun in crush line.

Inflame has same growth rate as Ammyslash, granted you then get diamond slash, but i'd be expecting to do behind styles most of the time.

backslash - 0.85 growth rate

behind style and followup in DW - 0.65 and 0.90

Still not too far off, but get a longer stun with the sheild.

 

[Straef]

The DW behind chain would have an average growth rate of 0.77 then, if you'd manage to get the followup off every time, so quite a bit lower overall.

 

[Tsabo]

The DW behind chain would have an average growth rate of 0.77 then, if you'd manage to get the followup off every time, so quite a bit lower overall.

But consider 75% of the time I will slam, then do Flank and followup most times, where as a person that is 50slash 50dw wouldnt be able to do that.

 

[Straef]

But consider 75% of the time I will slam, then do Flank and followup most times, where as a person that is 50slash 50dw wouldnt be able to do that.

They'd be able to use diamond slash tho, which afaik has the highest dmg of all styles available to merc, without having to slam anything.

 

[Osri]

They'd be able to use diamond slash tho, which afaik has the highest dmg of all styles available to merc, without having to slam anything.

?!?! your dw side chain mate...know your class.

Would go 39 slash, 39 pierce, 50 dw or that 42 shield, 50 dw, 3x weapon, rest parry spec.

 

[Eva]

0.90 50 Diamond Slash H H H+ - After 'Amethyst Slash'

It's not highest for a merc, but it's the same as behind chain. So basicly he could do the same damage with anytimers that he can do when he's chasing targets now.

Versus a decent group you'll hardly kill anyone in the 9 second stun that slam gives you, unless you got a huge assist train. And then they got immunity and they run and you're stuck with a crappy behind style.