We need to zerge more.

Arethir

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Zerglings get most rps, learn and accept the rules of zerging and we might still have a chance to compete against the rp-farmers.
Some albs like "adding" on other peoples fights etc.. but thats not what i mean.. i mean the fact that usually in emain there's so full of mids that you cant get fg vs fg nomatter how much you want it. So unless you are in awesome RvR-guilds like FL, PE, Outcast... maybe also AoD comes into here... and TLW's opted gg, and you want to go emain.. then learn how to zerge with 2-3 fgs on /stick.. else you most lightly won't get far in prime time of day..
 

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I partly agree with Arethir here.
Albion's strength lies within it's numbers, whereas Hibs and Mids can have all the tools in one group, Albion has its tools spread pretty much. Mythic acknowledges this and so does GoA.

However, that doesn't mean that we have to run with 2 fg to beat 1 fg every time, on the contrary, that would be unfair to our enemies. So, we should really run with 2 fg more often (1 opted and 1 non-opted with classes that don't RvR that often, necro, etc) and hopefully, the mids would team up too so we'd have a 2fg vs 2fg battle.
 

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just wait a few months and you will see the biggest zergfest ever

NF is going to be so much fun :rolleyes:
 

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Aeatan said:
I partly agree with Arethir here.
Albion's strength lies within it's numbers, whereas Hibs and Mids can have all the tools in one group, Albion has its tools spread pretty much. Mythic acknowledges this and so does GoA.

However, that doesn't mean that we have to run with 2 fg to beat 1 fg every time, on the contrary, that would be unfair to our enemies. So, we should really run with 2 fg more often (1 opted and 1 non-opted with classes that don't RvR that often, necro, etc) and hopefully, the mids would team up too so we'd have a 2fg vs 2fg battle.

Yep, then we come to all that want to wtf pwn and run with 2 opted groups.

Zerging ain't a solution to anything.
 

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Eva said:
Yep, then we come to all that want to wtf pwn and run with 2 opted groups.

Mids are already running with 3 opted groups :p
 

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Eva said:
Yep, then we come to all that want to wtf pwn and run with 2 opted groups.

Zerging ain't a solution to anything.

Then what is? Dont just leave it at that.

givf solution since you know zerging aint it.
 

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Something has to change cuz else RvR will die all together. i for one aint gonna goto emain just to get rolled by the same group over and over. Having a BD stick and insta lifetap the entire fight aint exactly much fun as a caster.

Currently my RvR consists of either group doing 3 runs before disbanding or speed warping apk and trying to pick off casters from groups as they run past, and 90% of the time i get insta stunned and nuked b4 i get my 2nd bolt off.
Zerging wont fix anything but i have no other suggestions short of quitting till NF
 

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Shadeyhodds said:
Something has to change cuz else RvR will die all together. i for one aint gonna goto emain just to get rolled by the same group over and over. Having a BD stick and insta lifetap the entire fight aint exactly much fun as a caster.

Currently my RvR consists of either group doing 3 runs before disbanding or speed warping apk and trying to pick off casters from groups as they run past, and 90% of the time i get insta stunned and nuked b4 i get my 2nd bolt off.
Zerging wont fix anything but i have no other suggestions short of quitting till NF

Also when playing an alb caster vs chanters that use that dps interupt is an absolute joke, mythic really need to fix that bullshit.

There is no solution in alb for anything, sure you can run 2-3fgs if you can't make decent ones or suited ones, but if you do that i really wouldn't go stuck to one leader because that's asking a good hib fg to kill you, best to run near each other instead.

The main thing with alb is lack of good active theurgs, whereas mid it's piss easy getting a shaman also random fg of mids beating 4fgs albs says it all like my quote in my sig, they aren't better players, they just have it a lot easier to make their fgs decent aswell as being strong in rvr.

There's probably going to be a few people saying alb is easy, they're either liars, have a good set fg often, high rrs in their fgs always, have high mls too, otherwise it's far from it as a normal alb, it's even not easy to get the group going in rvr guilds too_One more thing, alb caster fg is hard vs good hib fgs, chanters just dps abuse you to shit, maybe go with mix fgs or tanks again, either way both work though a good theurg who petspams really does win the fights which i so rarely see in alb sadly.
 

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Arethir said:
http://www.duskwave.com/daoc/guildrank.php?server=Prydwen&realm=&order=lastweek

Zerglings get most rps, learn and accept the rules of zerging and we might still have a chance to compete against the rp-farmers.
Some albs like "adding" on other peoples fights etc.. but thats not what i mean.. i mean the fact that usually in emain there's so full of mids that you cant get fg vs fg nomatter how much you want it. So unless you are in awesome RvR-guilds like FL, PE, Outcast... maybe also AoD comes into here... and TLW's opted gg, and you want to go emain.. then learn how to zerge with 2-3 fgs on /stick.. else you most lightly won't get far in prime time of day..

:puke: :puke: :puke:
 

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Lol hamro u reading here to :m00:

By the hib POV aye albs are rp cows usually but there are fgs that can kick our ass anyday, if ur not opted grp combo dont bother leaving apk really.

BTW , ever considered odins instead of emain? :)
 

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Ade said:
if ur not opted grp combo dont bother leaving apk really.

BTW , ever considered odins instead of emain? :)

percisley :p oops! looks like more than albs have access to this forum :eek: yes lets plan un-secretly to zerg more...oh wait mids have now 2 set groups running purposely to destroy the albions zerg effort :clap:

Why say we need to zerg when ur already cashing 70k a week...such greed.
 

Arethir

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WTG today! Even the low rr alb managed to get quite alot of rps in the zerge!
 

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old.windforce said:
just wait a few months and you will see the biggest zergfest ever

NF is going to be so much fun :rolleyes:
Hurrah, fuck the tanks :(
 

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Arus Canus said:
stop QQ Mr PE.

Guess you be quitting when NF goes live?

Mr pe is right here tho, shit rps for everyone instead of 1fg getting decent rps :x
 

Aeatan

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Hmm. I think that I know why zergs comfort me. I finally don't die in three or four fucking hits as they can't even PICK ME OUT.
 

Arethir

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Kahland said:
zerging is retarded though.


It's retarded maybe... but even the low rr ppl get rp... and now we can finally stand against when the other realms zerge (i hope)
I wasn't in the zerge in any fights yesterday. but i know ppl who were... and they got more rps than i got yesterday! :)
So.. conclusion.. if you want rps.. join the zerge...
 

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Arethir said:
It's retarded maybe... but even the low rr ppl get rp... and now we can finally stand against when the other realms zerge (i hope)
I wasn't in the zerge in any fights yesterday. but i know ppl who were... and they got more rps than i got yesterday! :)
So.. conclusion.. if you want rps.. join the zerge...

That sorta summed it up, the other realms will zerg due to being zerged so therefore whoever zergs first gets the RPs then whoever has the biggest zergs get most RPs overall.
 

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Staffzor said:
That sorta summed it up, the other realms will zerg due to being zerged so therefore whoever zergs first gets the RPs then whoever has the biggest zergs get most RPs overall.

Well mids been running rr8+ grp for 5 days in emain farming just about everyone who leaves apk. On top of that 2fg middies that do add.

Yesterday albs just had enough and counter zerged. Didnt help much tho as at one point there was 76 mids in emain.

Still made nice amount of rps tho, 20k+.
 

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Shadeyhodds said:
Something has to change cuz else RvR will die all together. i for one aint gonna goto emain just to get rolled by the same group over and over. Having a BD stick and insta lifetap the entire fight aint exactly much fun as a caster.
You forgot to whine about Savages tbh.

Seriously, get a grip!
There are so many Albs whining that they cant RvR. Why dont you get together and make an opted group? Yah yah, Alb cant make opted groups - guess PE are all hackers and cheaters then.
You will get steamrolled anyways, you say? So what? What do you think happened to us when we started running our guild group? We've been sticking to it anyways, for almost a year now (only 2 days a week thou). And hey, what can I say? We're having fun.

Is it just coincidence that the Albs are always out as a zerg and hyperactive in RvR when they have relics and crawl back into their stinkin city of Camelot when they loose them?
 

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Jeriraa said:
You forgot to whine about Savages tbh.

Seriously, get a grip!
There are so many Albs whining that they cant RvR. Why dont you get together and make an opted group? Yah yah, Alb cant make opted groups - guess PE are all hackers and cheaters then.
You will get steamrolled anyways, you say? So what? What do you think happened to us when we started running our guild group? We've been sticking to it anyways, for almost a year now (only 2 days a week thou). And hey, what can I say? We're having fun.

Is it just coincidence that the Albs are always out as a zerg and hyperactive in RvR when they have relics and crawl back into their stinkin city of Camelot when they loose them?

Opted group wont do shit if your enemies are 6 realm ranks higher then you.. get a gRiP!
 

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Arus Canus said:
Opted group wont do shit if your enemies are 6 realm ranks higher then you.. get a gRiP!
What he said!
And setting up a good opted group takes more time than some people can spend on daoc, getting all the toa items/ml's, lvling new class if yours ain't 'fotm' etc.
 

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Unless your a highish rr, even a decent group setup is going to get rolled over alot atm. If you haven't got a perfectly balanced group, you may as well not even leave apk unless you plan to sit on amg\mmg and try to fight from there. Zerging is no fun either unless you come against a similar amount of mids\hibs to fight against.

I find that fights are often over stupidly fast and aren't really much fun.

Casters simply hit too hard and fast now, so basically if you end up losing mez, your pretty much dead unless you have good support to quicker demezz u and interupt the casters. Little clerics can do when your being nuked for 700-800 odd every 1 second.

I'm personally looking forward to NF, the game feels so stale atm, running around emain just for the sake of it and farming rps. Would rather have fights that had some sort of long term goal apart from just trying to get as many rps in the week as possible.
 

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I saw it comming and quoting myself:
You will get steamrolled anyways, you say? So what? What do you think happened to us when we started running our guild group?
In the beginning we were happy to win 1 out of 5 fights vs the opted alb and hib groups. Seometimes we didnt win more than 3 fights during a whole 3 hour session.

Are you expecting to win without putting any effort into it? Then of course zerging is the way to go. But you know what? The people who put time and effort into RvR will still beat you!
 

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