Warrior damage increased

[hrodelbert]

One of my most enjoyable and difficult RvR solo occasions (it was one of the few times i've lost one on one) was against Crush a little kobold warrior who was doing as much damage to me as I was to him, I really think that this damage increase is uncalled for.
Having said that, I wasnt as well equiped back then, but it would be interesting to see how well this encounter would go in a few months time after the patch

 

[Solid]

gimp

BASE damage increase.

there is no way in hell Crush can outdamage a Polearm Armsman with her 44 hammer and kobold str and lamo Midgard 1H styleset.

when you get out of end, warriors will outdamage any other class aka they have highest base melee damage in game.

Get your facts straight Monte Cristo

 

[SilverHood]

which damage increase?

Crush is rock hard... he soloes red con mobs in DF, and tanks legion with easy...

Maybe you had a bad day

 

[hrodelbert]

not a gimp and my facts are straight

the damage add i was refering to is the base damage add given in 1.56b

 

[hrodelbert]

also solid I'm not a polearm user so I dont really understand your post

 

[hrodelbert]

also for most of the fight due to both of us blocking half the hits we were both out of end, that was the similar damage i was refering to.

 

[Arlone]

you SHOULD be doing more damage tho Hrodel due to chain vs. plate. But then you use slash (dislikes mid chain) and crush uses hammers (loves alb plate) .. that might explain why you, in this case, had 'the same' damage output.

Thing is, Warriors and armsman (shield-specced) are ALMOST identical - except the small fact that armsman have 7%ish more absorbation (ofcourse Warriors also get 2-handed specc for free witch makes an excellent highdamage opening hit). Increase warrior damage output slighty seems like a pretty fair move to me but I really hope it's not that significant.

 

[Solid]

ahh well Hrodelbert. Sword and Boarder eh.

well you did fail to mention the particulars of slash on chain vs crush on plate, thats a -10% to your damage +10% to Crush's. hmm same damage even thought you got negatives vs his positives? that indicates you outdamage him overall.

so I am still right, no way crush should be outdamaging you even without end atm.

HAH!

 

[Jeron]

Crush hasn't been hammer specced for sometime now...

/em slaps Solid

 

[hrodelbert]

as I said it was a while ago, long before the patch, I have had relatively few encounters outside the zerg with warriors, this was the only notable one

 

[Silent Shadow]

btw doesn't a kobold warrior block like.... everything?

 

[hrodelbert]

yep lots and lots of blocking

 

[Rasp]

I feel this damage increase is justified. The Midgard pure tank is the weakest of the 3.

 

[hrodelbert]

i think they should have made evade 1 slightly more noticeable by changing that to increase their defence, as evade 1 atm is pretty pap, and doesnt make up the difference in plate absorb

 

[<Wels>]

can tell you that evade 2 is also crap, all my time in RvR, I have evaded like 2 times. I don't really think Evade 1 can count as....anything really.

 

[hrodelbert]

thats why i think it should be improved somewhat

 

[<Wels>]

YesI know, I just confirmed it for you

 

[old.willowywicca]

I have evade 1, and whilst I don't evade very regularly, it does occur enough for me to notice it

 

[hrodelbert]

do you find uber dex/quick buffs make a big difference to evade 1?

 

[Jeron]

Well shes Luri, that helps

 

[old.willowywicca]

Originally posted by hrodelbert
do you find uber dex/quick buffs make a big difference to evade 1?

dunno really, my parrying shoots up, evade seems pretty similar (but it's possible that hits that would have been evaded get parried instead if you know what I mean..)

 

[Milkshake]

*slaps Hrodelbert*

Not remember our little 1 v 1 encounter in the MMG-Emain?

Of course, some other mids finished it for us, but it was fun while it lasted, lots of blocking.

Mind you, I didn't have IP. Still don't, but I'm not far off now!

 

[[SC]Tzikas[Mid]]

Originally posted by SilverHood

Crush is rock hard... he soloes red con mobs in DF, and tanks legion with easy...

Yah, so do I, without hiding behind a shield and/or wearing chain armor. And so does alot of other people.

 

[old.Bubble]

i like this
warrior is a fun class to play but lacks the punch of zerkers/hero's/armsmen

(not saying a damm thing about when a lvl50 warrior did me 600 damage with a 2 handed polarrift.....to my lvl 49 paladin that is )

 

[liste]

dex/qui does help it alot, but i'd be willing to believe that the defence mechanism you have the highest possible chance of triggering, will be accounted for first. Its a guess

 

[klavrynd]

Yah, so do I, without hiding behind a shield and/or wearing chain armor. And so does alot of other people.

right tzikas, but then again you are the uberzerk that kills like nobody else. I'd really like to see you kill a redcon in DF because i know i surey can't kill one.

Taken into account that i have capped str/dex/con and allmost +hp and qui, have shedloads of passive RA's (aug blabla, dodger, mopain, toughness) which i think you don't have (xml doesnt show your rp) only actual proof will convince me.

Crush has (at least i think so) 60+ in shield, extremely high dex due to being a kobold and prolly mastery of blocking. His chances of not taking damage, which imho it comes down to when tanking a redcon is way higher then yours.

 

[old.willowywicca]

I can solo a red con essence shredder (well I did it once ever okay ), so someone with good evade should be able to do so fairly easily too I think..

 

[Solid]

Crush was buffed when she soloed red Umbrood and when she soloed Purple Ukobat. She has prolly soloed reds unbuffed np, with the insane shield skill and dex she will block 80% of attacks.

Btw both do slash damage vs mid chain, so 10% bonus.

Hell I can solo a red umbrood buffed without using IP or FA2 or unbuffed using IP and FA2. Just cap you slash resist and boost shield/dex/hp and ur done.

If a gimp thane can do it, its nothing to bragg about

 

[old.Bubble]

my pet telamon > all of you!

 

[Fightersuntzu]

According to the TL's ive heard, the base warrior damage was increased by 10% - i think warrior damage is now 125% and advanced weapon specs(polearm, celtic spear) are still 140%......so im not too worried.