Warning to Hib Crafters

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Elric IA

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Hi

I have recently been ripped off for quite a sum of money by someone ordering an MP weapon per retry who then pulled out of the deal when it looked like the retry count was getting too high and got them from another crafter (or so he says). Basically he wanted a fixed cost MP and had his notions of what they should cost but when it looked like the per retry was going poorly for him he became extremely difficult to get hold of.

The person involved thought that every 50 goes an MP appears and also said that the fact that I relogged (actually I LDed twice) had reset my MP count (which is one of the crafting myths but I have never seen it have any basis in fact).

I tried hard since Tuesday to get the money from him but it became obvious when he logged when he saw me in Aaild or went on extensive afk periods that he did not want to face the issue, knew he owed me money and did not want to pay it.

Last night I got to chatting to him properly (despite the interuptions of his childish mate) and I even offered to accept money on Alb Prydwen (where this person is from) but he never showed up.

Now he claims he has only 3g and cannot pay me. I said if he had any honour he would give me one of the MP weapons or armour he had until such time he could afford to pay me back (which I strongly suspect he can now anyway).

Anyway, as this person is unguilded I cannot take it up with the GM so am going to post it here as a warning to other crafters. I wish I had asked for a deposit now and maybe you think I am silly that I did not but this is the first person in a lot of crafting who has basically decided he didn't like the price and did a runner. From now on I will be asking for 5 plat deposits for MP weapon orders (if you havent got at least that you should not be ordering a per retry MP which are the only ones I do).

The person's name is Wraythe and he is an unguilded low 40s Lurikeen Ranger. He is often seen in Aalid wearing a green cloak but no armour (probably being powerlevelled). His childish mate is Apache (Celt Ranger).

Posting on here now will probably mean I will not get the money (although I doubt I will anyway) so any other crafters dealing with this person please either ask for a substantial deposit or ignore him.
 
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Arnor

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what a sad fucker :(



He'll never buy an item from me for the rest of his life! (500tailoring4tehwin!!11)


you other crafters dont need to punish him more, not buying from me is the same as a kick in the teeth (really, I make _very_ good trinkettes, I DO!!, though not one MP item yet :( )
 
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Amadon

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thanks :x

one reason I only do stuff for guildies :p
 
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Rubric

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Why is it that the nicest most reasonabel people are the ones that get ripped off. Hope this doesnt get another inacrnation of the eternal champ ;) down to much. Chin up mate not everyones such a twat.
 
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vintervargen

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was it by any chance a MP bow you crafted? :)
 
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Elric IA

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Originally posted by vintervargen
was it by any chance a MP bow you crafted? :)

No it wasn't (but nice try :) ).

Basically it got to bedtime having not got the MP with a fair few retries. Logging on the next evening I gave a status report to Wraythe who then complained about me relogging etc. the LDed (or logged). Being suspicious, I didnt actually carry on making the weapon. Good job I did not or it would have been worse.
 
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censi

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They can consider themselves banned from any raid I do (not that I do any anymore anyway)

I know elric well enough to know his word is golden.
 
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Vantros

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same here banned from the galla raids Talivar and myself are starting... and any RvR group i am in i will protest thier joining
 
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Ravenbourne

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I know the "apache" you mention is an "ebay for teh win" kind of guy...
 
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Tyka

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Wait til you hear the other side of story, prejudice is not a good thing you know...
 
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cercela

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imo i dont order something unless:

1) I know how much it costs and i have enough

2) I have a rough idea and have double it and tell them not to go over. (example if im ordering a mp per retry I'd say keep a 99% if you cant get a MP in X amount of gold giv me the 99)


i just dont want my name soiled. You can be forgiven for being a bit noobish, but not for being an asshole :p
 
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Vantros

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but on a mp u cant know how much its gonna cost... thats the point.. u cant ask someone to make u a mp then say after they worked onit for u for so long no i dont want it now.. its disrespectful to the crafter... a mp is not an easy thing to make when u talking 16.2/16.5 dps weapons and it could cos upwards of 2 plat for a single weapon unless u get very lucky...
 
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WIZ@RD_of_W@R

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Thnx for the warning Elric this same person asked me if I was taking MP RF orders a few days ago had to turn him down as I had lack of time at that moment. Glad I turned him down and I won't get back to him when I have the time :p

Lotsa crafters retired as a result of this kind of bullshit or only keep to crafting for guildies and friends, I hope you won't as it always hard to find a good WC and you did a great job on the pokers for my shade :clap: .
 
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Arnor

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ill say to ze crafter: "I got x plat to spend on this mp, if you dont get one by then gimme a 99" for instance
 
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Chameleon

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Gah that's really shitty E :(
I know Elric spends a lot of time crafting for people inside and outside of the guild and always does his best to make things as quick as possible and at the most reasonable price.
It's a crying shame that someone who spends so much time and money helping others out (crafting, exp'ing or anything else), should be ripped off like this!
Wraythe you should be ashamed of yourself! If you have a high level on Alb Prydwen and a conscience, you should at least try to reimburse the material costs by a cash transfer.

:eek:
 
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StormriderX

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Stuff like this makes me glad I retired and stayed that way.
 
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old.Garax

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Sorry to hear that, this kind of thing is something i have always worried about as a crafter, i'm sure some people dont have a clue how hard it can be to make a mp sometimes. They don't appreciate that the 1 in 50 is only a chance and then you have to deal with making a mp hilt or blade.

Thanks for the warning, both are going on my non crafting list.
 
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Wraythe

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Originally posted by Arnor
ill say to ze crafter: "I got x plat to spend on this mp, if you dont get one by then gimme a 99" for instance

maybe if i got something out of it i would of given money? ...

there was no 99% wep, there wasn't even a 94%
 
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ilaya

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Originally posted by Wraythe
maybe if i got something out of it i would of given money? ...

there was no 99% wep, there wasn't even a 94%

can any fellow crafters please spot the mistake here? :p

faaaar too late to explain this.. <hic>
 
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Spamb0t

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Originally posted by Wraythe
maybe if i got something out of it i would of given money? ...

there was no 99% wep, there wasn't even a 94%


maybe because u had ordered a MP?

if u make an order - u pay for it.
 
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boni_ofdavoid

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Originally posted by Tyka
Wait til you hear the other side of story, prejudice is not a good thing you know...

your right ofc :)

Originally posted by Wraythe
maybe if i got something out of it i would of given money? ...

there was no 99% wep, there wasn't even a 94%

Now can I call him a wanker?
 
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sorusi

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Originally posted by Cloak_
does for charges :x
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not on the proccs/charges, only on the item you enchant with the procc/charge
 
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Noche

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Originally posted by Cloak_
does for charges :x

But it´s the ITAM´s qual, not tinctures qual, have imbued 94% one on a 99% item and ended up with 7 charges soooo.... pwned!

:wub:
 
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rolgar

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Well, I've got not much time to spend on such persons. Certainly not ingame. Therefore they will be simply ignored. Forever.

hehe, I can even walk right through them, as if they were thin air :)
 
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Elric IA

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Originally posted by Wraythe
maybe if i got something out of it i would of given money? ...

there was no 99% wep, there wasn't even a 94%

From what you said you had already got the MPs from another crafter. Also you told me you only had 3g.

I have a couple of 99% ones in my vault so there is a weapon there for you but I think you will know what price will be charged.

If you want it please contact me in game.
 
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