War on Iraq survey

[yeahyeah]

Originally posted by sirexairman
What did you read it and realize hes right ? , and now your trying to make a joke about it ? ,, if so you cant accpet your wrong, and thats Sad.

Why am i wrong??? So cos i have an opinion about the gulf war that probably the only other person on here that agrees with me is karam, that differs to every1 else it means im wrong? Cos u have a different opinion to me it means your right? Does it fuck! Thats what its all about, opinions.

 

[Ceap]

have you read it?

if you havent then be quiet or read it. it is, tbh, brilliantly funny.

you post repeatedly without refernece to fact, claiming that you just think something. that is, at times, a valid method of deciding an opinion.

however, when what you are saying goes against the facts, and you are unable to justify your arguements, to the level of just ignoring any information brought towards you, firing from the hip without bothering to read the other person's point of view....

go read the post.

 

[yeahyeah]

Originally posted by Ceap
have you read it?

if you havent then be quiet or read it. it is, tbh, brilliantly funny.

you post repeatedly without refernece to fact, claiming that you just think something. that is, at times, a valid method of deciding an opinion.

however, when what you are saying goes against the facts, and you are unable to justify your arguements, to the level of just ignoring any information brought towards you, firing from the hip without bothering to read the other person's point of view....

go read the post.

CEAP FUCK OFF WILL YOU U SPINLESS LITTLE SHIT. You even admitted in an earlier post that just cos sommat is written by someone in a book doesnt make it fact, yet all u do is harp on about facts, facts, facts and how I have a lack of them. Ive admitted that my opinions are based on what I read in teh sun newspaper. Your oppinions are based on teh books that you read WHICH YOUVE ALREADY ADMITTED DOESNT NECESSARILY MEAN ITS FACT.

Ive told u countless times that i justify my arguments on what i read in the media. Fact or not fact, im still justifying my argument.

 

[Driwen]

Originally posted by sirexairman
What did you read it and realize hes right ? , and now your trying to make a joke about it ? ,, if so you cant accpet your wrong, and thats Sad.

ceap it is funny , but it isnt exactly true .

China and Iraq are different, because with time china will improve sadam wouldnt. Besides the people in china have more freedom than in Iraq as far as I know (not many but do have more ). Waging war on china wouldnt have done much good as 80% of the people wont be able to settle into the new system, hell Russia has/had a hard time with it and they sort of chose for it themself.
But I will have to see wether or not the war was a good thing, it depends on what will happen. I thought it was to risky to start one myself as you never really know what will happen in such a explosive region.

Ow and ceap about the democracy thing and socrates/plato, I dont think socrates would have said anything about it as he wasnt much interested in such things. But it would have been up plato's alley, but that would still be his opinion and most likely not the reason why we have chosen that word .

 

[Cap'n Sissyfoo]

Originally posted by yeahyeah
CEAP FUCK OFF WILL YOU U SPINLESS LITTLE SHIT. You even admitted in an earlier post that just cos sommat is written by someone in a book doesnt make it fact, yet all u do is harp on about facts, facts, facts and how I have a lack of them. Ive admitted that my opinions are based on what I read in teh sun newspaper. Your oppinions are based on teh books that you read WHICH YOUVE ALREADY ADMITTED DOESNT NECESSARILY MEAN ITS FACT.

Ive told u countless times that i justify my arguments on what i read in the media. Fact or not fact, im still justifying my argument.

I still find it amusing that anyone could justify an argument based on what they read in ... The Sun.

 

[yeahyeah]

Originally posted by Sissyfoo
I still find it amusing that anyone could justify an argument based on what they read in ... The Sun.

Come on then, enlighten us, what newspaper do u read daily. In the absence of readin a newspaper daily, which paper do u read when u can/have the time?

 

[Ceap]

about the plato / democracy thing, i did concede that point my bad memory tbh.

and yes, certain parts are exagerated, but having been to china, and having my parents work there (i know, too much of a coincedence) the situation is pretty bad.

the theme is correct, it uses good examples, and it is funny

the point is yeahyeah claims not to have read it, then flames it anyway...

 

[yeahyeah]

Originally posted by Ceap
about the plato / democracy thing, i did concede that point my bad memory tbh.

and yes, certain parts are exagerated, but having been to china, and having my parents work there (i know, too much of a coincedence) the situation is pretty bad.

the theme is correct, it uses good examples, and it is funny

the point is yeahyeah claims not to have read it, then flames it anyway...

No i flame it cos i find stuff like that boring.

 

[Cap'n Sissyfoo]

Originally posted by yeahyeah
Come on then, enlighten us, what newspaper do u read daily. In the absence of readin a newspaper daily, which paper do u read when u can/have the time?

I rarely read newspapers; I hate the noise of crinkling paper and getting ink all over my fingers pisses me off no end.

I read BBC news online and watch the 24hr BBC news channel. If I find something of interest then I read other news sites to get more information and try to get a more neutral overview of the situation if it is possible.

 

[Ceap]

lol yeahyeah just seen yer nice post, spineless hmm ok, if you read my quotes etc, which you obviously havent, you would see that one is from the director of the Iraq situation. This is the man whose job it is to run Iraq. he is a Brigadier General in the US army. he's holds the opposite opinion to me. and he says (and ill quote it AGAIN)

"If they turn on their radar we're gonna blow up their goddam SAMs. They know we own their country. We own their airspace... We dictate the way they live and talk. And that's whats great about America right now. It's a good thing, especially when there's a lot of oil out there we need."

now, that quote was from the Washington Post, as stated previously.

That is the US Brig. General, the man who is in charge of America's Iraq operation. He says "Its's a good thing". Why does he say that "own(ing) their country... own(ing) their airspace" is "a good thing"? because "there's a lot of oil out there we need".

Now, tell me.

When the man in charge of the US's Iraq operation, says that the United States "own(s) their country", "own(s) their airspace", what makes that country such a threat to us? they are obviously neutralised, because the US "own(s) their country".

But, "there's a lot of oil out there we need".

Now, would u trust the man whose job it is to ensure that the world is kept safe from Saddam Hussain to comment on the status of Iraq.

He says they "own the country". IMO that makes them not a threat. He obviously isnt threatened by them.

 

[Ekydus]

OK this post has passed it's Use-By date, close it IMO.

 

[Ceap]

Originally posted by yeahyeah
Ive told u countless times that i justify my arguments on what i read in the media.

you say 'i read it in the sun'. thats not justifiying it, its giving its source.

justifying it is "the sun said XXXXX, it was quoting XXX saying it, or it came from XXX document"

 

[yeahyeah]

Originally posted by Ekydus
OK this post has passed it's Use-By date, close it IMO.

No one gives a toss about your opinion

 

[yeahyeah]

Originally posted by Ceap
you say 'i read it in the sun'. thats not justifiying it, its giving its source.

justifying it is "the sun said XXXXX, it was quoting XXX saying it, or it came from XXX document"

LOL thats not justifying it. Read what u just posted. Now that is whats called "giving its source"

Thought you were clever?

 

[Ekydus]

Originally posted by yeahyeah
No one gives a toss about your opinion

Noone gives a toss about you fullstop.

Fuck off to whatever shit hole you crawled out of numbnuts.

 

[Coim-]

Originally posted by Ekydus
Noone gives a toss about you fullstop.

Fuck off to whatever shit hole you crawled out of numbnuts.

You beat me to it.

 

[Ceap]

Originally posted by Ceap
you say 'i read it in the sun'. thats not justifiying it, its giving its source.

justifying it is

saying I Think XXX because

"the sun said XXXXX, it was quoting XXX saying it, or it came from XXX document"

does that clarify it for you

 

[Driwen]

Originally posted by Ceap
about the plato / democracy thing, i did concede that point my bad memory tbh.

and yes, certain parts are exagerated, but having been to china, and having my parents work there (i know, too much of a coincedence) the situation is pretty bad.

the theme is correct, it uses good examples, and it is funny

the point is yeahyeah claims not to have read it, then flames it anyway...

the idea is true and it is a good joke, but it is to simple to just say if you think you have to attack you should also attack china. As china will eventually improve. Yes its bad, but it has improved already and is improving more by time. Thing is Iraq wouldnt have imrpoved one bit, even if the sanctions would have been lifted. Iraq would have again one of the biggest countries of the world and use it do kill civilians and might even attack neighbours. Sadam would also not have really helped his citizens much with the gained money and find some way to blame it still on the USA.
There is a difference between china and Iraq and its actually a rather huge and important one allthough also rather subtle. It is on the same level imo as the jokes about the americans and the french. Partially true and funny, but also important to realize that they are based on truth not the truth themself .

 

[Ceap]

Originally posted by driwen
the idea is true and it is a good joke, but it is to simple to just say if you think you have to attack you should also attack china. As china will eventually improve. Yes its bad, but it has improved already and is improving more by time.

There is a difference between china and Iraq and its actually a rather huge and important one allthough also rather subtle. It is on the same level imo as the jokes about the americans and the french. Partially true and funny, but also important to realize that they are based on truth not the truth themself .

agreed, just thought yeahyeah should read it before slagging it off

 

[yeahyeah]

Originally posted by Ekydus
Noone gives a toss about you fullstop.

By replying you show that u give a toss

 

[Driwen]

Originally posted by Ceap
agreed, just thought yeahyeah should read it before slagging it off

he should read it because its a nice joke . Atleast if he has a sense of humor . And he should have read it before making himself stupid and putting the wrong name under it and admitting that he hadnt read it.

Ow and can people please stop quoting 40 lines of text just to say its to long?

 

[Coim-]

Originally posted by yeahyeah
By replying you show that u give a toss

No. He's right. Really. No-one gives a toss.

 

[old.Dillinja]

Originally posted by yeahyeah
Has any1 actually bothered readin that? Looked like a complete load of drivel so didnt bother. Can any1 sum it up for me or is it the ususal "bush and blair are cunts, blah, blah" bullshit.

It sums up America and Americans perfectly actually.

 

[Reverant Mezz]

Originally posted by Arnor
oh, random hillbilly-retard-grunt #13278625 said that it wasnt about oil... cant argue with that umm, you know...research