Wanna know why rvr is dieing and albs are leaving?

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Gahn said:
I'll make sure that i won't lose other time with u, stay assured.


Oh mate, seriously apologies if I have offended as it wasn't my intention as I am sure you didnt wish to offend me. Just know that I personally try broadcast cabbie lfg, ice wiz lfg etc and even try wondering round asking people if they want to group and after a while I figure why stand out here waiting when I could play my scout and defend. My Mini will soon be finished and I've even got croc tear ring to give people speed nearby so I promise I do try :)

Once again apologies but I'm not a fotm player and do try.
 

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Hibs remembered to woke up just at the point this game is dieing. I think you will be late for WoW guys. ;)
 

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I PM'd Mauness(from seven, the cleric in question) 3 times last night for an invite to the Reaver Group which I had organised ( included people from 5 guilds - just needs a bit of organisation). I guess she was afk :(


If you cannot get a group - be pro active an organise your own :)
 

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Awarkle said:
so me going to poc maybe 3 or 4 times and i repeat not just shrooming up the entrance which i have done but its like playing easy mode because

1. your enemy are unbuffed
2. your enemy are not grouped half the time.

now i dont shroom up the entrance instead i move into the poc and will leave mushrooms behind me out of sight in case i see someoen its called entrapment if you chase me into a full stack of shrooms then your fault.

I cant see why im suddenly blamed for albs leaving, christ if they leaving because

Awarkle: Let me explain their problem noob.

1st: I think there are two kinds of people in the game. One who tries to have fun playing the game and consider it is good if all sides have fun. And ones who like to say I wtfpwned them fecking n00bs by shroom fields at entrances corridors ruined their day how great am I when they no longer came to poc I went docks and ruined the game for a few more, now I am a true god...

Sadly the 2nd group is numerous, and even if they don't understand, to have fun they need all sides, and to keep them they should also have fun, pretty basic stuff easy to understand. And yet a newbie who have problems understanding such basic problems can ruin the game for a few dozens players.

Opted elite groups like PE, AoD (luckily AoD is mostly gone), Eclipse, etc. are just as problematic. Yes, same with infitrators. When you need them at a siege for valid reasons they don't come because they camp docks and wtfpwns people.

A friend of mine learns french and wanted us to go to a french server, luckily people was able to have fun in thidranki in level 20 free gear, because people there learned the above lession.

2nd: Bonuses: I think the bonuses should be based on your active RvR population. Yet it is a bit more difficult, some realms tend to be underpopulated, so their abilities are designed to compensate for it (say shroom fields in keep defense, etc). So the real population can be multiplied by a small factor before checking who is underpopulated. Also this factor can be influenced by other things. But there is an easier way to see who is the weaker realm:

Top 10 most active guilds LWRP looks like: 7433821 in hib guilds, 3800867 for alb guilds, 3772095 mid guilds. Yes, hibs almost have as many RPS there as two other realms combined. I think the BP earning are proportional to this. To see things balanced, albion would need about 3-4 guilds at 11th placewith strong scores....You won't be surprised, that even with small guilds, etc. the LWRP for hibernia is around 19 millions, for albion 17 millions, for midgard 13 millions. Again GBPs are proportional to this, and hibernia has the most points to spend on keep, yet they get a huge discount to make things balanced. Imho this is a bit different from other servers where LWRP is proportional to population, etc.

3rd: Cheating: Using third party tools to gain advantage is disallowed, all cross realm coordination needs a 3rd party tool for communication, when mids and hibs are in same towerr and defend it hand in hand, they let each other pass, and there is coordinated action, that is illegal for the above reason. Yet we see it often, and both mids and hibs cry, when it works a simple way: If mids and hibs start killing each others, albs are happy, and attack the weakened realm because they see a chance. But in other cases it is simple: 2900 hib+mid active characters vs 2000 albs, when most of them are tired of it and don't RVR a lot... With this illegal cross realm coordination hib+mid combined armies get an advantage in active population AND get bonuses for being underpopulated as long as the hibs do the claiming... WOW.

4th: The above reduces the active RVR population in albion, a lot get RP only when they win against attackers in poc, yet don't rvr, so with active RVR population it is even worse. Since NF most action is started by hibs, the successfull raids against them? See when albs got their relic back: We heard lost of hibs were away that time, so lower than usual population and happened when mids started attacking and albs used the oppurtunity. Atm. no realm has a real chance of victory without outside help against hibernia. This with the above coordination of forces makes RVR pointless.

Add the above, and you see: Your choices with real realm war are limited, your chances of having fun in frontier is limited. The later is by sharking people like you. The former? By goa.

What can you do about it: Think about it. You can have RVR as long as you have enemies who decide to go out to RVR.

You hardly have a problem with AoD groups now: they arearound 270000 LWRP and the 16th most active guild in albion/prydwen. Public enemies: 6th, with 811000 points. Yes, none of them are in top 10 most active guilds of prydwen...

In hibernia: 2 of the top 3 most powerfull guilds is in top 3 most active as well. In albion it is only 1 of 3, and I doubt if a guild with over 200 characters and over 75 members, with less RPs than a guild with 69 characters and 24 members is famous for opted groups. This little comparision shows how good your chances are at getting farmed by opted groups, and how much your should relly on numbers for defense. The above questions about actively RVRing population (say, number of people above 30000 LWRP: 159 in albion, 180 in hibernia, 117 in midgard...).

If I would set the limit at 50000 LWRP, which would be also reasonable: 122 hib, 77 alb, 66 mid. This would reduce the people who only came out of relic defense...

Now lets see the people who maintain a semi constant RVR presence, the groups who dictate the pace, say people above 100000LWRP: 38 hibernia, 20 albion, 18 midgard. Yes. Just as many hibs as albs + mids combined. When hibs and mids help each other in same place and are on TS, etc... your odds based on numbers: 56 vs 20...

Yes this is the core RVR leadership that is behhind the sucess stories in RVR and when mids and albs both attacked hibs, it evened out the fight and at this point the low RR adds (people who do siege while high RR people fight each other, rezz after battle, etc) won the battles against hibernia.

But these calculations show why hibs are dominating, and if with these numbers they get free bonuses and albs see it is pointless to fight agsinst some double teaming people it can get even worse and make even more people leave. You want this? Doubt it.

What can you do about it? Don't kill exp groups, let albs have fun when they don't want to war, so make them stay in the game, and make things balanced. If you go shark mode and ruin their fun RVR will become even less balanced and even less fun, and even you lose at the end.

Next topic: TOA

Many people speak against TOA, yet I think it is a pretty solid expansion in itself. Let me tell you why. It is against PLing fotm alts. PLing fotm alts and opting them and just waiting to finish is a grind, and if toa makes it even longer it also provides motivation to play in a different way. If you start TOA with the level 24is toa quests, and try to exp in regular groups and benefit from better drops, better camps, and good xp, try to get artis, and with the level 30 arti you make your leveling faster, at level 40 you start MLs and get two or more things at once: The game will be more rewarding, faster and more varied for you, more space to explore and play the game in. Yes, it balances things between PL and the fair way of playing. I think it is fixing the game.

If you want to play and not to wtfpwn with the most recent twinked and PLed fotm alt... it helps a lot. And I am very happy with it. Ones who start wow to get away from the PL grind and want quests, exploring and whine because TOA made their grind longer forgot about the point: If they start leveling and exploring in TOA doing quests, getting CK in all BGs, etc. the game is varied enough and there is plenty of place for stuff they want from WOW, and they can keep RVR, and wthout fotm mania, and a more decent community they can make it more fun.
 

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/em wonders where all these "sensible" Albs were when 7 out of 10 LWRP earners were Albs Guilds and when there wasn't a chance of getting in frontiers without encountering 2 to 6 opted or randoms Albs fgs everywhere :flame:

Tables turn around, this game is based on this simple concept, if Hibs would have let theirselves disheartened (sp?) every fucking time we were on the short part of stick our realm would have died years ago.

I suggest less whining, more playing.
 

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At those times albs didn't get bonuses as compensation for their strenght :)

And I wasn't in frontier at that time, so turn your comments to them.

And as you see, noone said only hibs are the problem, opted fgs work on all sides. And PLing people and lack of proper groups are mostly a problem because of albs. Never liked RVR and on prydwen probably I never will. Why? Because people (both alb and mid and hib sides) intentionally ruin the game for each other.

When an alb says, he doesn't kill hibs in DF just help a mob to kill them so they lose xp, that isn't better than shrooming the entrance of poc: They are playing to ruin the game for everyone. This destructuve attitude is there on all sides, and is very strong on prydwen.

This combined with cheating (yes coordinating groups from 2 realms with TS is cheating and it isn't better than radar, and when you say I shouldn't speak about such problems, I think you might be involved...) and a strange distribution of bonuses, that should be used to balance the game not to imbalance it further... is a problem we should fix. Imho when enough people stop RVRing.
 

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Jupiter: Maybe you forgot that what I wrote had a lot of math / statistics inside. Oh, forgot that you gimp always failed at learning math even at elementary school, so you think you are smarter by cheating :)
 

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Esselinithia said:
At those times albs didn't get bonuses as compensation for their strenght :)

And I wasn't in frontier at that time, so turn your comments to them.

And as you see, noone said only hibs are the problem, opted fgs work on all sides. And PLing people and lack of proper groups are mostly a problem because of albs. Never liked RVR and on prydwen probably I never will. Why? Because people (both alb and mid and hib sides) intentionally ruin the game for each other.

When an alb says, he doesn't kill hibs in DF just help a mob to kill them so they lose xp, that isn't better than shrooming the entrance of poc: They are playing to ruin the game for everyone. This destructuve attitude is there on all sides, and is very strong on prydwen.

This combined with cheating (yes coordinating groups from 2 realms with TS is cheating and it isn't better than radar, and when you say I shouldn't speak about such problems, I think you might be involved...) and a strange distribution of bonuses, that should be used to balance the game not to imbalance it further... is a problem we should fix. Imho when enough people stop RVRing.

Get over it, an online game ain't different from life, u can encounter people who cares about others and people who not, u can find people who "plays" by rules and people who not. Nothing new here (apart that i have yet to see this new fantastic cheat about let's all get aboard my ts server and slap those pesky albs), PoC ganking ain't different from DF ganking, Boat Drop Off camping, Towers camping, add whatever u like; altho they are all non cheats, hence fair play to who plays that way. "Fair" play ain't a universal point of view, nor a universal end game expectation for all peeps u play "with" or "against" in this game.
 

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The funy thing is in NFwe got a very few fight where we lost with AoD group.All the loosed fight happaned agaisnt the Maelstorm or zerg when we tryed bomb them.( its maybe 5 fight if i wanna count it ). oh sorry savage conclave got us to at one time ( nice fight there guys :clap: )

The 24/7 thing ( sombody said that before ) is wrong becouse we are all 25+ and we are all work and we have maybe 4 hour / day for the play if we lucky in the work.

most of Aod canceled acount in one month and rerolled in wow. no more " easy" rp for you!

for the clueles ppls: you all can kiss my ass in WoW !
keep up the QQ thats what you can guys, nothing more :kissit:
 

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Esselinithia said:
Jupiter: Maybe you forgot that what I wrote had a lot of math / statistics inside. Oh, forgot that you gimp always failed at learning math even at elementary school, so you think you are smarter by cheating :)

I'd suggest that u stop accusing people of cheating too unless u got any kind of proof (and anyway RightNow is your friend, u won't earn any bit of respect from a community by random bullshitting cheats at ppl u not even know in game), cause it's becoming a bit disappointing (insert some rumble about Mods ...).
 

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Gahn: Not once you see mids and hibs are in same tower camping and defending it with a combined effort, I think that is clearly cheating no point in defending them, and wonder why some people gets offended by mentioning that it is cleary against code of conduct? PoC and DF camping: Both hurts exping people, and people who are here for a purpose different from RvR. Hard to find good SI outside camps to level your artis in albion where you can even get groups. Both of these actions are against XPing people who isn't prepared to RVR so free RPs without the usual risks. Hardly a fair game. Docks / boat drop points camping: Not the best way, but at least you try to concentrate on RVRing people and make their job harder. Tower camping: Imho the realm war is about taking keeps and towers, it is what the game is about.

Yet, what you said about there are people who are helpfull and others are harmfull, you are right, but it doesn't mean you shouldn't say they are harmfull. The problem is with rewarding them, and imho GOA has its powers to fix it. If the active RvRing population is highest in hibernia and most of the dominant groups are here, they shouldn't get the highest possible underpopulated bonus. If two realms coordinate their actions on TS? so be it. A few shots, and server logs about such action, and determine underpopulated bonuses by adding their numbers together (and counting only people who RVR on regular basis) if it means they lose bonuses and have to face the more difficult battles? So be it. All hibernia and midgard benefits from these actions, since they draw away defending alb forces, so it is more fair for all...

Also there is a simple rule: Players who / whose group haven't attacked other players in the hour before they die RVR death: should worth 0 RP, and if you get attacked in a fight and mosters kill you you should lose 0 xp, this can prevent ruining the game for exping people. Bet on it, it can fix the problems.

Also a hib who wants to play fair, can check shots where mids and hibs are in same tower defending, and when they see the same people doing it again, can wipe the mids, and teach them a lession about being in hib keeps / towers.

Ones who get offended by mentioning it and letting such cheats happen, and actively using it to their benefits are cheaters, plain and simple. And if you say people should accept cheating, then maybe you will ask goa to make modified clients, etc legal...
 

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Gahn: Let me point out plain and simple: At the moment when hibs and mids in the same power and attacking albs with a coordinated effort and hibs benefit from it and no hib attacks the mids inside and they say "it should work this way and nice to get benefit from this cheat" even elsewhere (because that tower draws more alb forces) is a cheater. When I start seeing mids getting owned in such towers by hibs, and you not defending a cheat you get benefit from then you won't be a cheater.
 

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Esselinithia said:
Next topic: TOA

Many people speak against TOA, yet I think it is a pretty solid expansion in itself. Let me tell you why. It is against PLing fotm alts. PLing fotm alts and opting them and just waiting to finish is a grind, and if toa makes it even longer it also provides motivation to play in a different way. If you start TOA with the level 24is toa quests, and try to exp in regular groups and benefit from better drops, better camps, and good xp, try to get artis, and with the level 30 arti you make your leveling faster, at level 40 you start MLs and get two or more things at once: The game will be more rewarding, faster and more varied for you, more space to explore and play the game in. Yes, it balances things between PL and the fair way of playing. I think it is fixing the game.
(Sorry, skipped to this part without reading the rest :p) The biggest problem with PvE-ToA is that it was released 2-years too late - some players already had 16+ lvl50s perfectly geared (I had 7 non-plvled lvl50 chars) so they could have variance with their playing. The time it takes to get back to that position simply isn't bearable making the time they invested on leveling those characters worthless. Apart from that fact and ToA's effect on RvR (drastic increase of imbalance :p) it was an great expansion, imo :cool: Personally speaking I've found PLing up to lvl46, activating artis, starting MLs and exping while at it the most effective way to "grind" so for me ToA made PL far more attractive :cool: The player who leveled by the method you described will probably have three times bigger /played than me at lvl50|ToAed so I wouldn't say ToA balanced things between PL and the "fair play of playing", more likely the opposite.
 

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Esselinithia said:
Gahn: Let me point out plain and simple: At the moment when hibs and mids in the same power and attacking albs with a coordinated effort and hibs benefit from it and no hib attacks the mids inside and they say "it should work this way and nice to get benefit from this cheat" even elsewhere (because that tower draws more alb forces) is a cheater. When I start seeing mids getting owned in such towers by hibs, and you not defending a cheat you get benefit from then you won't be a cheater.

I still have to see Hibs and Mids fighting inside a tower togheter against Albs, that's a new 1 for me tbh. Ofc i saw in BGs Mids and Hibs trying to siege an Alb ck if in lower numbers, i even saw a Mid Warrior on a Leirvik tower helping us against albs, but that's far from using TS or 3rd party tools, it's just some emotes in game, and as long as GOA doesn't state that's a cheat i really can't see how u can call it a cheat tbh, but that's me :eek:
Still u accused Jupiter of cheating with no proof, just saying, that's ain't right.
 

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Before it it wasn't 3 times difference but 5-10 times difference. Yet TOA is still a small difference, and yes, about 16 old 50s who have to work again to get top spot: It takes time.
 

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Gahn said:
I still have to see Hibs and Mids fighting inside a tower togheter against Albs, that's a new 1 for me tbh. Ofc i saw in BGs Mids and Hibs trying to siege an Alb ck if in lower numbers, i even saw a Mid Warrior on a Leirvik tower helping us against albs, but that's far from using TS or 3rd party tools, it's just some emotes in game, and as long as GOA doesn't state that's a cheat i really can't see how u can call it a cheat tbh, but that's me :eek:
Still u accused Jupiter of cheating with no proof, just saying, that's ain't right.
Sorry but it is quite clear: If one supports having unfair advantagesand using it to ruin the game for others, and speaks against balancing things and stopping cross realm cheats, etc. is actively supporting cheating and getting benefit from it. In my definition that is a cheater.

Yes, I know: Many hibs are here who would just PBAOE in such towers, many would say, if math say they don't need the bonus give it to others who need, and try to play and expect the same. Yet the differences are quite big now, and bonuses make it even bigger. Imho one needs to fix the calculation of bonuses, by checking active RVR population (and maybe RPs) to balance the game. With the numbers we all know where the active rvr population is biggest we know, that the bonuses doesn't serve their purpose but hurts the game balance. Imho it is a bug. One can report it or one can use/abuse it to his advantage. Using a design flaw in bonus calculation (yes all such flaws are bugs) to your advantage knowingly is called bug abuse.

Imho hibs either should show a math that show: They have less active rvr groups, etc. and make less RPs and BPs and the discounts are justified or say, the calculation for bonuses is flawed and it should be connected because they don't want to abuse a bug. Using a bug to your advantage knowingly: it is called a bug abuse.

I don't know how many people had fins group pre fop nerf, where some went away and just used tools to play it automatically (I know people IRL who did it and some say it was popular way of PL). Imho that was cheating too. Of course camping on tents in Avalon City was cheating, and many who did it got 3 days suspensions for it.

But if it comes to Code of Conduct I am a bit strict. I tend to ask, who actally plays with the buffbot, since a character without a player behind it, since leaving a character working without a player controlling it is against code of conduct.Getting exp without doing anything facing the usual risks is against code of conduct. Yes the patch notes say they encourage grouping of different level, so if a "leech" in a group has a player controlling it, and tries to do something not just gets free xp, it is ok, but good portion of PL is against rules.

Imho it is easy to see people who do cheat... :)
 

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Zede said:
Well Albs proved tonight we still rock, even without the old but gold gank grps.


We miss u guys, but we SHALL PREVAIL !!!!!

No reply to me and Maleg? :(

Was funny before, this post isn't funny :(
 

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Esselinithia said:
more bullshit

hhaha yer a funneh guy tbh

1. I dont have a buffbot
2. I play a support class, so i dont get all horny for deathspam or pissed off if i dont
3. I dont abuse bugs, however i do abuse arseholes like u
4. I dont actively help mids, but if i saw them on a certain keep i would tend to leave them at it
5. I dont jump solo fights/experiencers, unless they attack me, i've stood by and /cheered some of them and ran off
6. I like flaming gobshite threads on FH from brainless boneheads like u
7. Do u want directions to the french servers/boards so u can bug them?
8. Are u the new Thugs/Treacle?
 

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Jupiter said:
4. I dont actively help mids, but if i saw them on a certain keep i would tend to leave them at it

Actively and knowingly benefiting from an xrealm cheating is cheating. So you were on the list yourself and admited it nicely. But also:

Jupiter said:
3. I dont abuse bugs, however i do abuse arseholes like u

Any design flaw that provides advantage without any real reason is a bug, and the current way of determining underpopulated bonuses has a design flaw since it should be here to balance the game and it unbalances it. You know it is bugged and take benefit from it, don't report it, and speak against fixing it. Hard to belive that you don't bug abuse.
 

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Jupiter said:
8. Are u the new Thugs/Treacle?

Imho you are a big badmouth who can't do basic math. If you can start doing math and show where the alb RVRing population has its advantage over hib RVRing population and have proof then, maybe you won't post posts without any meaning information, etc. and with only offensive talk... Wait, what you do is pretty much same as Thugs did, bragging with only some exploit, and not checking anything solid. Either do your math or shut your mouth.
 

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Esselinithia said:
Any design flaw that provides advantage without any real reason is a bug, and the current way of determining underpopulated bonuses has a design flaw since it should be here to balance the game and it unbalances it. You know it is bugged and take benefit from it, don't report it, and speak against fixing it. Hard to belive that you don't bug abuse.

So its bug-abuse to play Hibernia/Prydwen at the moment ? Because that is what your saying(!)

I cannot take control over the XP I gain; or the RP's I gain from a kill. Those bonusses I receive from playing Hibernia/Prydwen.

According to you those bonusses are some sort of bug-abuse I do. I say I get em from playing Hibernia/Prydwen and therefore playing Hibernia/Prydwen is currently bug-abusing.

So....... Should I repeat it again or are you already realising how stupid it is to call people who benefit from an underpopulated bonus?
 

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Esselinithia said:
Actively and knowingly benefiting from an xrealm cheating is cheating. So you were on the list yourself and admited it nicely.

Think you'll find that you're incorrect here. It's not, pure & simple. You may not like it, but thems the breaks.

If the Hibs/Mids/Albs/lurikeen uprising/nasty people from the dark side of somewhere else used 3rd party programs to do what you're suggesting & play together across realms then that - according to the powers that be - is a cheat. If they see each other & on the spur of the moment decide not to attack & even to co-operate then it's quite simply not cheating - no matter what your own personal opinion is.

By the way it's not that easy to orgainse an attack with another realm against a common foe if you put just a modicum of thought into it. AoE effects would hamper that to a huge extent(& just for the record so would the Albs favourite friend - the shroom).

So think before you start with the finder pointing please.
 

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Esselinithia said:
Actively and knowingly benefiting from an xrealm cheating is cheating. So you were on the list yourself and admited it nicely. But also:



Any design flaw that provides advantage without any real reason is a bug, and the current way of determining underpopulated bonuses has a design flaw since it should be here to balance the game and it unbalances it. You know it is bugged and take benefit from it, don't report it, and speak against fixing it. Hard to belive that you don't bug abuse.

Me thinks u got carried a bit too far in your crusade; accusing people of cheating cause GOA gives underpopulation bonus to Hibernia (so u imply that we are cheating cause we play Hibernia) it's something that in rl would lead u directly to a mental facility lol.
 

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Esselinithia said:
bragging with only some exploit, and not checking anything solid.

as i said already i dont brag, what do i have to brag about playing a support class... but i do flame, do the math, do the math, do the math.. suck my fat one, suck my fat one, suck my fat one

an alb complaining about population bonuses whats de world coming to....

are u John Wayne? well pilgrim ya can talk de talk but cant ya walk the walk... not before ya eat peanuts outts my shiat, we're like jolly green giants walking de earth
 

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Esselinithia said:
Imho you are a big badmouth who can't do basic math. If you can start doing math and show where the alb RVRing population has its advantage over hib RVRing population and have proof then, maybe you won't post posts without any meaning information, etc. and with only offensive talk... Wait, what you do is pretty much same as Thugs did, bragging with only some exploit, and not checking anything solid. Either do your math or shut your mouth.

Over the course of the game Albion has earn't ~50% more RPs than Hibernia, which means that, as a realm, they have more bounty points available to spend. Therefore, Hibernia (and soon Midgard) need the bonuses to maintain their keeps at an equivalent level to those in Albion.

By the way, accusing people of cheating becuase they benefit from the underpopulated bonus is as ridiculous as accusing someone in Albion of cheating because they have more people.
 

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Esselinithia said:
Imho you are a big badmouth who can't do basic math. If you can start doing math and show where the alb RVRing population has its advantage over hib RVRing population and have proof then, maybe you won't post posts without any meaning information, etc. and with only offensive talk... Wait, what you do is pretty much same as Thugs did, bragging with only some exploit, and not checking anything solid. Either do your math or shut your mouth.

U maybe should double check your maths; it ain't Hib fault if Albion HAS an active OVERALL population advantage but realm itself wastes it doing only PvE (i'm taking a wide guess here cause i don't have Alb/Pry toons at all).
So we are having atm upper hand in RvR cause 70% of our realm is active in RvR while Albion has maybe 20% active, this doesn't in ANY manner change this simple statement, asap rest of Albion gets out of PvE we will be again in an underdog status EVEN in rvr. I'm pretty sure u can understand it well and i'm guessing u degreed in a trolling behaviour in your last posts :)
 

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So its bug-abuse to play Hibernia/Prydwen at the moment ? Because that is what your saying(!)

I cannot take control over the XP I gain; or the RP's I gain from a kill. Those bonusses I receive from playing Hibernia/Prydwen.

According to you those bonusses are some sort of bug-abuse I do. I say I get em from playing Hibernia/Prydwen and therefore playing Hibernia/Prydwen is currently bug-abusing.

So....... Should I repeat it again or are you already realising how stupid it is to call people who benefit from an underpopulated bonus?

No, if you report it and say you see the bonus calculation doesn't work the way it should be you reported a design flaw, and you don't abuse it, as long as it is here and you can't do anything against it you benefit from it, but it is ok. But saying "I love these undeserved bonuses and the unbalance, so albs should get used to it, and I will try to get maximum benefit from it without reporting it, and will try my best to keep it" is a different scenario.
 

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