Wanna know why rvr is dieing and albs are leaving?

[Kraben]

Keep it up hibs! Its good to see hibs finally be the dominant realm in rvr! :worthy:

 

[Esselinithia]

Me thinks u got carried a bit too far in your crusade; accusing people of cheating cause GOA gives underpopulation bonus to Hibernia (so u imply that we are cheating cause we play Hibernia) it's something that in rl would lead u directly to a mental facility lol.

Getting a bonus and not reporting a flaw is different.

 

[Esselinithia]

Over the course of the game Albion has earn't ~50% more RPs than Hibernia, which means that, as a realm, they have more bounty points available to spend. Therefore, Hibernia (and soon Midgard) need the bonuses to maintain their keeps at an equivalent level to those in Albion.

By the way, accusing people of cheating becuase they benefit from the underpopulated bonus is as ridiculous as accusing someone in Albion of cheating because they have more people.

Because they don't report the way to calculate it is bugged... Benefiting and not reporting to get benefit is different. Playing the game even if it is bugged is OK, not reporting bug to get benefit isn't.


Also you total BP calculation: Check the total BP of active guilds. Better the number of currently active guilds with ability to have a keep claimed and upgraded for long time. But imho the NPC guards should assist your defense and balance fights in favor of defender.

 

[Gahn]

Getting a bonus and not reporting a flaw is different.

I guess GOA and Mythic (to some more extent) got tools surely more suitable to decide if there's a flaw or not behind Underpop Calc Tool.
If u imply that they should apply a real time calculator to decide wheter in that particular week of that particular month of the current year 1 realm should have underpop bonus and not another (maybe as i already explained cause that particular realm is doing MLs lol) well that's another pair of shoes.
From GPBS point of view i can only say that this underpop bonus it's letting us live without fear of running out of bps for simply keep towers and keeps claimed at a decent level (ie our Guild bps started to raise again ONLY after underpop bonus got introduced, cause before that date we were falling down at peak speed; only thing that saved us was that we intentionally left our keeps unclaimed or claimed at level 2 max for last 3 months of OF, so we had a reasonably large pool of bps to spend when we needed em aka 1.70). So i don't see any kinda of flaw atm in this system, maybe it could be an on line tool, as i said, but that's an improvement, surely not a design flaw.

 

[Jupiter]

The funy thing is in NFwe got a very few fight where we lost with AoD group.All the loosed fight happaned agaisnt the Maelstorm or zerg when we tryed bomb them.( its maybe 5 fight if i wanna count it ). oh sorry savage conclave got us to at one time ( nice fight there guys )

The 24/7 thing ( sombody said that before ) is wrong becouse we are all 25+ and we are all work and we have maybe 4 hour / day for the play if we lucky in the work.

most of Aod canceled acount in one month and rerolled in wow. no more " easy" rp for you!

for the clueles ppls: you all can kiss my ass in WoW !
keep up the QQ thats what you can guys, nothing more :kissit:

cya..... not

 

[Tirfo]

The funy thing is in NFwe got a very few fight where we lost with AoD group.All the loosed fight happaned agaisnt the Maelstorm or zerg when we tryed bomb them.( its maybe 5 fight if i wanna count it ). oh sorry savage conclave got us to at one time ( nice fight there guys )

The 24/7 thing ( sombody said that before ) is wrong becouse we are all 25+ and we are all work and we have maybe 4 hour / day for the play if we lucky in the work.

most of Aod canceled acount in one month and rerolled in wow. no more " easy" rp for you!

for the clueles ppls: you all can kiss my ass in WoW !
keep up the QQ thats what you can guys, nothing more :kissit:

I guess you will just get pwnd in WoW then instead of in DAoC, unless ofc you've taken the other 8-16 muppets who you have supported 'so closely' in DAoC rvr, i believe the 24/7 thing is correct btw seeing as 8/10 most active toons were AoD on the server for the time you were playing, and altho you are 25+ that cant compensate for the -12 mental age you have. :iwouldntkissyourfathairyassifyoupaidme:

 

[Zede]

I guess you will just get pwnd in WoW then instead of in DAoC, unless ofc you've taken the other 8-16 muppets who you have supported 'so closely' in DAoC rvr, i believe the 24/7 thing is correct btw seeing as 8/10 most active toons were AoD on the server for the time you were playing, and altho you are 25+ that cant compensate for the -12 mental age you have. :iwouldntkissyourfathairyassifyoupaidme:

look m8, u just got a hair on one of your bolox !

 

[Esselinithia]

U maybe should double check your maths; it ain't Hib fault if Albion HAS an active OVERALL population advantage but realm itself wastes it doing only PvE (i'm taking a wide guess here cause i don't have Alb/Pry toons at all).
So we are having atm upper hand in RvR cause 70% of our realm is active in RvR while Albion has maybe 20% active, this doesn't in ANY manner change this simple statement, asap rest of Albion gets out of PvE we will be again in an underdog status EVEN in rvr. I'm pretty sure u can understand it well and i'm guessing u degreed in a trolling behaviour in your last posts

Your argument about total population is a bit flawed, let me tell you why. First of all: The game is designed with a specific level of population in mind, both underpopulated and overpopulated realms have problems. Why? Easy: Arti pop timers, camped spots, etc. make getting ready to RVR slower. With more people stuck with it, it will become even slower, etc. this is why some albs on excal wear epic armor for RVR. With enough such weak groups outside the other realms can farm RP more efficiently (much better kill / death ratio) and it leads to higher avarage RRs, etc. with enough active high RR people they can dominate the server, no matter how many groups are out.

This is one half of the story: The other is simple, even before these bonuses, people in underpopulated realms, had a chance at getting DF, getting relics, etc. they balanced the game even if it meant slightly better class setup for one realm or another. So the ideal distribution of population isn't 1/3 - 1/3 -1/3. The above "overpopulated" problems with a higher optimal population can be a deadly combination. Remember: if two people want the exact same artis, it won't mean one will get them in time, and other will get it with a slight delay: But one will get some, and wait for the others. Other one will get the other artis and wait for the former. Time to get an opted character is increased for both characters.

This means higher percentage of people doing PVE, the same spots will be more overcamped, etc. with the weaker people going RVR and some still waiting, these weaker people get owned over and over. They will want to try out something else, and will make new characters....

This with the elite groups on prydwen, etc... makes a bit problematic to count based on total population. Also newbies with level 30s as their highest characters won't be a match for an eclipse group...

 

[Tirfo]

look m8, u just got a hair on one of your bolox !

Your wit is incredible, never heard that before, new material? or was 'bolox' something that you heard another kid in the playground say? maybe use 'testacles' next time if you know what it means ofc, guess its just the truth hurts.

 

[Esselinithia]

I guess GOA and Mythic (to some more extent) got tools surely more suitable to decide if there's a flaw or not behind Underpop Calc Tool.
If u imply that they should apply a real time calculator to decide wheter in that particular week of that particular month of the current year 1 realm should have underpop bonus and not another (maybe as i already explained cause that particular realm is doing MLs lol) well that's another pair of shoes.
From GPBS point of view i can only say that this underpop bonus it's letting us live without fear of running out of bps for simply keep towers and keeps claimed at a decent level (ie our Guild bps started to raise again ONLY after underpop bonus got introduced, cause before that date we were falling down at peak speed; only thing that saved us was that we intentionally left our keeps unclaimed or claimed at level 2 max for last 3 months of OF, so we had a reasonably large pool of bps to spend when we needed em aka 1.70). So i don't see any kinda of flaw atm in this system, maybe it could be an on line tool, as i said, but that's an improvement, surely not a design flaw.

When we can't claim close tower (t1 and t2) when we don't have enough GBP and all in the BG sees the same that is a problem. I don't say that hibs have easy time, and to be honest, if my "friends" wouldn't insist on albion I would be in hibernia, and I seen many problems with certain people in albion, and I am sure most people in hibernia is nice people. Probably friendlier than many albs.

And when some "nice" albs said, they won't kill young hibs in DF just hit them badly enough to help the mobs to kill them, so they lose xp, since 1RP is nothing but making hibs lose xp makes them happy... Now that was evil. I hate when albs do this, but equally hate it when hibs do it. This with fotm, and too much of dominance from opted groups is very different. Imho in this environment, the first basic rules of the game should be kept in mind or the problem gets out of hand: the other player pays the subscribtion as well, and he wants to have fun to. You should respect him, and try to let him have a good time. One who keeps this in mind is a good and nice player.

One who doesn't and use whatever fair or unfair advantage he can get to win is a cheater. This applies to buffbots, PL, using crossrealming stuff, reading about raids of other people, helping raids that use such illicit knowledge. Why? because you use some unfair advantage to ruin the game to others. It isn't acceptable. No small and acceptable levels at this. Imho one who demands to support such abuses and thinks it is the normal way to play the game used such unfair advantages to win not once. No matter if he is hib, mid or alb.

The population bonuses are here to make the game enjoyable for all, and when you doesn't upgrade your keep / tower to high levels yet you lose it because you run out of BPs, and lots of towers are unclaimed and you can lose big time with it... That shows they don't provide a chance for enjoyable game. And it is a bug.

I don't say: helping hibernia is bad. I say two things: Give ability to people to protect their own fun, and make sure each people have a fair chance to have fun, and each realm should have a fair chance to get its keeps claimed. Yes, enough active guilds with enough GBPs to claim most keeps and upgrade the important ones. Underpopulated bonuses are here to help with this problem. I think they should be dynamic, and should be based on actual need (and should change often).

Noone says, it is because of hibs that high rr gank groups left albion. Imho it is their own fault. Yet without them, most albs won't stand a chance and under 1 kill / death (or 8 for an fg, etc) you fall behind more and more. And this tendency should be stoped. It makes you happy to kill people with half of your RR or less? If hibs dominate they can dominate poc, without poc it is hard to level some key artis, without key artis and with falling behind in RPs the game gets one sided. It should be stopped, and the bonuses should serve this purpose.

Interesting, that no hib said: Ok, right everyone should have some fun. Everyone said: Get used to losing and we winning, and we love our advantages. Imho if the game gets balanced that is good for everyone in the long run. Yes, people can think good ways to balance the game, by adjusting bonuses.

Say: I think hibernia deservers some help with MLs, by making them easier: They have much harder time to get a big zerg for some steps. But I also say: It is harder for albs to mainitain a house in an OK area, so alb crafters can need a bit of help. And with this amount of unfinished characters maybe some modifications with arti pop timers. A realm that is weak in LWRP, and can't claim and upgrade all keeps, and have hard time with defense should get bonuses based on actual need, and not to give out a bonus when it isn't needed but can unbalance the game.

The current bonuses won't make it easier for you to gather enough people when you need numbers, yet it inbalanced the game somewhere else. You won't have more fun in toa, and if albs start being unable to claim important keeps, you won't have fun in RVR. The current bonuses can give a short term advantage but can hurt the game for all. See the problem? Also I would place trial versions in magazines, which are good for 1 month, but in that free month, they only work in underpopulated realms, etc.

 

[Zede]

Your wit is incredible, never heard that before, new material? or was 'bolox' something that you heard another kid in the playground say? maybe use 'testacles' next time if you know what it means ofc, guess its just the truth hurts.

least i try to be funny, instead of outright abuse. your just bitter cause AoD owned u so many times.


oh btw - come out this friday and my grp will own your sorry little arse, then you can direct your hormonal anger at me, instead of someone who aint even playin any more

 

[Elendar]

least i try to be funny, instead of outright abuse. your just bitter cause AoD owned u so many times.


oh btw - come out this friday and my grp will own your sorry little arse, then you can direct your hormonal anger at me, instead of someone who aint even playin any more

whoever you are, i think you need a clue

 

[Gahn]

Your argument about total population is a bit flawed, let me tell you why. First of all: The game is designed with a specific level of population in mind, both underpopulated and overpopulated realms have problems. Why? Easy: Arti pop timers, camped spots, etc. make getting ready to RVR slower. With more people stuck with it, it will become even slower, etc. this is why some albs on excal wear epic armor for RVR. With enough such weak groups outside the other realms can farm RP more efficiently (much better kill / death ratio) and it leads to higher avarage RRs, etc. with enough active high RR people they can dominate the server, no matter how many groups are out.

Ppl camping artis are present in all realms, hibs not excluded.
Since PoC and Frontiers xp levels all artis now, even that arguments holds no ground tbh.
Another story is % of High rr ppl in one realm, yet again (apart that tonight i saw some Albs back, hi FL ) aint hib fault if vast majority of Albs and Mids high rr ppl quitted game, nor it can be blamed at underpop bonus.

This is one half of the story: The other is simple, even before these bonuses, people in underpopulated realms, had a chance at getting DF, getting relics, etc. they balanced the game even if it meant slightly better class setup for one realm or another. So the ideal distribution of population isn't 1/3 - 1/3 -1/3. The above "overpopulated" problems with a higher optimal population can be a deadly combination. Remember: if two people want the exact same artis, it won't mean one will get them in time, and other will get it with a slight delay: But one will get some, and wait for the others. Other one will get the other artis and wait for the former. Time to get an opted character is increased for both characters.

As i already said, there are peeps in Hibernia who can't get artis cause they are camped for greed and or only farmed with some combination of peeps, abilities not avail to all in low numbers.

This means higher percentage of people doing PVE, the same spots will be more overcamped, etc. with the weaker people going RVR and some still waiting, these weaker people get owned over and over. They will want to try out something else, and will make new characters....

This is more a problem of patience, took me 3 months to do lot i had to do for 1st TOA template of my hero, only to discover that NF would have promoted a different playstyle pretty much relagating him to bg bot.
I altho sticked to him, i dunno what most of peeps want, all served on an a silver plate; to achieve things in this game, as in life, u need some effort.

This with the elite groups on prydwen, etc... makes a bit problematic to count based on total population. Also newbies with level 30s as their highest characters won't be a match for an eclipse group...

Elite groups were out there for all of us (guess u weren't playing when MM was out in Emain), yet me, nothing special as a player, with dedication and patience almost made rr8, bet many others can do that.

 

[Zede]

whoever you are, i think you need a clue

why ? am i not being humble enough for the mighty eclipse and mael ?

 

[TheBinarySurfer]

I guess GOA and Mythic (to some more extent) got tools surely more suitable to decide if there's a flaw or not behind Underpop Calc Tool.
If u imply that they should apply a real time calculator to decide wheter in that particular week of that particular month of the current year 1 realm should have underpop bonus and not another (maybe as i already explained cause that particular realm is doing MLs lol) well that's another pair of shoes.
From GPBS point of view i can only say that this underpop bonus it's letting us live without fear of running out of bps for simply keep towers and keeps claimed at a decent level (ie our Guild bps started to raise again ONLY after underpop bonus got introduced, cause before that date we were falling down at peak speed; only thing that saved us was that we intentionally left our keeps unclaimed or claimed at level 2 max for last 3 months of OF, so we had a reasonably large pool of bps to spend when we needed em aka 1.70). So i don't see any kinda of flaw atm in this system, maybe it could be an on line tool, as i said, but that's an improvement, surely not a design flaw.

Actually i agree with gahn <salute> the system works fine - the problem is the imbalance in opted fg's atm as well as class imbalances...IMHO the calc should be done on point scoring (e.g. number of players online gives a certain score, relics give more to the score, owning more keeps deducts from it etc)...

Just a thought.Whatever happens someone while whine!

 

[Ticking]

oh ye you gonna run hardmode 3* reaver gp zede gonna be skill.com powerplay

 

[Esselinithia]

Ppl camping artis is a problem proportional to the amount of players in realm. And leveling in poc when some animist shroom the entrance... Also the SI outdoors leveling requirement is a bit problematic for us. Oh, guess you never faced this problem. I hate RVR so if all frontier is green I don't mind but with one of my characters I need DF to level, need PoC to level artis, and if I can't have fun: Why I pay subscribtion cost? to make eclipse laugh because they ruined the game for a few more albs nicely? Also with more times they kill me, the bigger the difference will be...

 

[Elendar]

Ppl camping artis is a problem proportional to the amount of players in realm. And leveling in poc when some animist shroom the entrance... Also the SI outdoors leveling requirement is a bit problematic for us. Oh, guess you never faced this problem. I hate RVR so if all frontier is green I don't mind but with one of my characters I need DF to level, need PoC to level artis, and if I can't have fun: Why I pay subscribtion cost? to make eclipse laugh because they ruined the game for a few more albs nicely? Also with more times they kill me, the bigger the difference will be...

poc is not the only place you can level your artis, the entire fronteir works
i know originality is not an easy thing, but try going somewhere obscure instead of somewhere everyone goes like poc

 

[Saggy]

not really on the topic of the thread but anyway IIRC SOTL and to a lesser extent PE were at one time as popular with other albs as finding a wart on the end of ur knob - l337ism in DAOC was generally a direct function of who reached high lvl first and still is - first necros got los abuse, first reavers got stacking TWF etc etc - casual players and those who want fun without playing 24/7 are usually hit by the nerfs

Someone help me here: is he trying to say that TWF's should stack and Necro's should be able to cast without LoS so the casual players can have fun? Or what are these nerfs that hit the casual players? The only recent casual player nerfs that I can think of are ToA and NF Oh, I can name only one elitist from both PE and SotL while I can name dozens from these so called "friendly guilds" :| Been elite and been elitist are two compeletely different things and shouldn't be mixed up. The "l337ism" you described above sounds more likely enviousness and the guilds you mentioned are the victims, not the oppressors.

 

[Tuorin]

If Hibs didnt get the underpop bonus at the start of NF, then there quite possibly would be no Hibernia now, its that simple. For example, we had two guilds in the entire realm with over 300k GBPS. Not withstanding being a smaller realm during the entire history of daoc, a lot of the old guilds in Hib had little or no gbps. Those old guilds generally contained people who seemed less inclined to rvr and because of the dominance of Mid gg in emain for so long, the lesser Hib guilds attained quite possibly 1 or 2k gbps per week tops. That number would barely support a tower for so-called big guilds. There has never been a time when Hibs have dominated rvr on this server. At a few points succesful relic raids were made and defences, but never has their been a prolonged period of dominance from Hibs. The only time Hibs gained a lot more from any patch was 1.68 when there was the most Hib groups I'd ever seen in emain. Patch was kind with a few bugs, grapple and with bodyguard casters came out to play. Hibs also had power relics. Odd pre si patch Hibs had ok patches, ra's, but totally and utterly zerged 90% of the time.

I dont know the facts about Albion or Midgard and gbps, but I would hazard at a guess at the start of NF some of the bigger guilds had a lot of gbps. The smaller or newer Alb/Mid guilds now will really struggle with gbps and normal bonuses so I can understand frustration on their behalf.

I think pre NF we calculated that if we didnt get underpop bonus the only guild that could sustain a level 10 keep to patch 1.71 was AD, unless guilds like nfd and ga got 2m rps per week every week for 10-12 weeks.

The system might be devisive this week to Albs who are pveing, they will be losing gbps. Over a period of time the system is wrong. It should not be too expensive to maintain keeps, the actual taking of a keep primetime is ardous and brings on fatigue for all involved and hence the popular morning raids or prolonged sustained raids from 7pm to 5am are the only ways to capture relics or so it appears.

Mythic need to go back and look at the impact NF has and perhaps they will have some good solutions to it in time, at the moment it can feel good and bad for all 3 realms at any given time. if the enemy is too many and driving hard into your realm its a tough task for each realm if the foes are organisied and determined. All 3 realms now have had that, finaly it caught up on Albs.

So in response to the guy saying Hibs are taking advantage of bugs and cheating, mate seriously think before you write. Providing a long winded argument about pve and artifacts is irrelevant to the grand scheme of things as the same thing happens in Hib. Spots are camped, arguments ensue over stuff, drops dont drop etc etc. There's no toa going on at the moment in Hib. ML raids ended. This in itself is perhaps why Hibs are responding to relic threats in such force.

It was nice to see Mids get a relic, big grats to them and nice to see them in rvr, win or lose. A load of people have left the game from all realms and some more hardcore than others. This might have effected Mids the most. Most Hibs left prior or at the time of Toa because of being overwhelmed and the boredom that running to the only place to fight, emain brought. Albs and Mids are suffering to some degree now what Hibs did pre toa. Toa and to some degree rvr prior to toa killed the largest guild in Hib, there isnt one active person in SP now. Just an example of the past and the frustration that caused many ex hibs to leave way before now. We arent likely to lose that many more, its just the way they are.

 

[Vermillon]

most of Aod canceled acount in one month and rerolled in wow. no more " easy" rp for you!

for the clueles ppls: you all can kiss my ass in WoW !
keep up the QQ thats what you can guys, nothing more :kissit:

 

[Vermillon]

/em wonders where all these "sensible" Albs were when 7 out of 10 LWRP earners were Albs Guilds and when there wasn't a chance of getting in frontiers without encountering 2 to 6 opted or randoms Albs fgs everywhere

Tables turn around, this game is based on this simple concept, if Hibs would have let theirselves disheartened (sp?) every fucking time we were on the short part of stick our realm would have died years ago.

I suggest less whining, more playing.

SOme people got tierd after 3 years farming ya know.

 

[Jupiter]

SOme people got tierd after 3 years farming ya know.

do you have a random post generator to tell us all repeatidly that u have quit and now play wow.. go away ur a has been

 

[Azathrim]

do you have a random post generator to tell us all repeatidly that u have quit and now play wow.. go away ur a has been

Hahah! so true. Vermillon = Pwned

 

[Tafaya Anathas]

I guess you will just get pwnd in WoW then instead of in DAoC, unless ofc you've taken the other 8-16 muppets who you have supported 'so closely' in DAoC rvr, i believe the 24/7 thing is correct btw seeing as 8/10 most active toons were AoD on the server for the time you were playing, and altho you are 25+ that cant compensate for the -12 mental age you have. :iwouldntkissyourfathairyassifyoupaidme:

Hehehehehehe I imagine you when you will be 80 years old:

- Please grandpa tell us again the AoD zerg story for the 23478563475th time! Pwease!!!!

 

[Jobil]

hmm
i havent read a whole lot of this thread, just a few flames, but the way i see it is like this.
ToA came out, loads and loads (including me) didnt like the concept one bit = slap on the wrist. with toa came some terrible lag that was blamed on everyone and his dog besides GoA, by GoA, aloha 1 nanosec cast speed, bajbaj tank classes = slap on the wrist. Then came NF, hi der more lag, hi der 100000000 archers on a tower, ewwo shrooms of d00m, then along came patch 1.71, not really anything negative here except for the fact that ppl are generally lame and try to take advantage of exp'ers cuz they can't grow the nuts for equal fights = arti exp same shite as before as you get ganked everywhere remotely interesting exp-wise (dont give me the crap about out-of-the-way exp spots, some sb, ns and probably infil too always finds them so kindly stfu if you're going to use that remark.
And lastly "Hi der mister WoW with (presumeably) much better support (cuz face it, does it get any worse than GoA?)
im not even slightly surprised people decide to flush this game out the toilet.
doubt it really has anything to do with Hib being strong or not, they just happen to have the upper hand, ppl are so weary of bending over, excusing every intended improvement done to the game by saying, it'll get a fix.
i moved US servers as a final, "I still wub you game, but this is the last chapter, so you better show me something fantastic".
(oh and i apply to all the lameness above btw, i have fotm scout, fotm theurg, semi-fotm infil, i wanna be stlong, just like the rest of you bunch, so no bother flaming me on that, i know it. although i never ganked exp'ers in PoC, even i have standards)

 

[Tirfo]

least i try to be funny, instead of outright abuse. your just bitter cause AoD owned u so many times.


oh btw - come out this friday and my grp will own your sorry little arse, then you can direct your hormonal anger at me, instead of someone who aint even playin any more

'Try' being the word, unfortunately youre not, anyhow i cba to argue with someone whose probably half my age, you pwn m8 one day you will be able to drink beer and stuff, might put hairs on your chest, feel free to meet us in rvr, im sure you will provide a real challenge.

 

[Ovi1]

Ppl camping artis is a problem proportional to the amount of players in realm. And leveling in poc when some animist shroom the entrance... Also the SI outdoors leveling requirement is a bit problematic for us. Oh, guess you never faced this problem. I hate RVR so if all frontier is green I don't mind but with one of my characters I need DF to level, need PoC to level artis, and if I can't have fun: Why I pay subscribtion cost? to make eclipse laugh because they ruined the game for a few more albs nicely? Also with more times they kill me, the bigger the difference will be...

Prydwen is underpoulated, Alb has the biggest Population on the server. Balances out to Alb has roughly the size of population the game was designed for. Next stupid argument?

 

[Maeloch]

To say RvR/albion is dead cos of a week or two of underperformance is crazy. Anyone with eyes will have see how quick the balance of power has shifted back and forth between the three realms since the mid dominance at the end of OF. Everything is much more up in the air imo than the moaners give credit for, most of the shifts seem due to issues which have nothing to do with game mechanics and can just as quickly turn back (peeps in one realm bored of RvR/doing raids, realm leaders coming and going, peeps trying WoW, etc).

Last night albion seemed in healthy enuff form anyhow. Counted 3 roaming alb grps out (reaver bomb grp, FL grp, rising force grp) and 3fg of semi-mobile albs moving together. Was at least an equal number of albs to hibs out and about same proportion of GG to random ratio. Had a few good fights, a few of okay ones, and couple of absolute messes.

Why-do-peeps-whine-so-much!

Mael, 50th ment.

 

[Steveh]

I guess you will just get pwnd in WoW then instead of in DAoC, unless ofc you've taken the other 8-16 muppets who you have supported 'so closely' in DAoC rvr, i believe the 24/7 thing is correct btw seeing as 8/10 most active toons were AoD on the server for the time you were playing, and altho you are 25+ that cant compensate for the -12 mental age you have. :iwouldntkissyourfathairyassifyoupaidme:

hahaha i liked it

i dont care what you quess coz you are the one of the noobest ppl in hibernia

i just wondering sometimes this ppls how looks like in irl. they stukced to the computer and showing how big penis they have... big head ( about 1 meter ) little body and long fingers :wub:

you belive the 24/7 thing BUT you playing in hibernia...... in the last year we maybe got 10 active char in AoD 2 bb is not included.

- 12 mental age ? yes im on your level now .

AoD got bored playing RvR becouse we not got enough challenge. i logged in at start of january just to find some nice fight.Farmed 35k rp in 1.5 hour and decided ,the big mounth hibs are still hideing somwhere then i logged.