Vanish

[Djib]

Useless RA, can normally find the vanish-ee when i'm on inf anyway :>

That might actually be the "vanisher" - but I'm not pedantic in any way

 

[Sharkith]

FO all of you where is my 'vanish is for pussys' option in the poll.

 

[Puppet]

Awful ability, get rid of it totally! Nothing worse for a visible than to get hit by a stealther, that then decides to disappear when he is losing.

While its annoying for you that people vanish, its pretty annoying for the stealther to meet for example a paladin with winged helmet up, using Battler /use2, Warguard and IP2.

HighRR-tanks can spec and choose RA's (and ML's) to win every-time against an assassin if all their toys are up. Vanishing away from all the I-win crap and coming back a minute later is a fair tactic in my book. Its also great to get away from MOC-loltappers (especially combined with ML9 Spiritmaster bullshit pet).

 

[Muylaetrix]

i dunno, anytime a stealher jumps on me and he doesn`t kill me in 2 secs due to BG / DI or whatever, he would be stupid to stick around and NOT vanish imho.

The book of tactics was not written by an honourable person.

 

[Nuxtobatns]

So once every 15 minutes you can save ~2/3 minutes rebuffing at the expense of a more useful RA?

Its more like a 5point RA will save u the 10 mins u need to go back to an enemy land and not giving away rps easily.

 

[Vodkafairy]

FO all of you where is my 'vanish is for pussys' option in the poll.

amen, give.

 

[kivik]

FO all of you where is my 'vanish is for pussys' option in the poll.

agreeked!

Getting away from a group / mocloltapper by just running is so fucking funny, they go all ????

 

[Farmacistu]

Vanish had it when was low rr then specced out of it till rr8 , its bit too bugged for my liking but i must say its still decent vs pets adders etc , pointless vs st'ers
at low rr i agree its best to get dmg output ra's but then if wanan save up some rebuffing boat trips etc get it .

 

[Soha]

FO all of you where is my 'vanish is for pussys' option in the poll.

whats vanish? =)
something u can eat a pie a pie i tell u ..!!!
/em runs back to the box

 

[Tuthmes]

While its annoying for you that people vanish, its pretty annoying for the stealther to meet for example a paladin with winged helmet up, using Battler /use2, Warguard and IP2.

HighRR-tanks can spec and choose RA's (and ML's) to win every-time against an assassin if all their toys are up. Vanishing away from all the I-win crap and coming back a minute later is a fair tactic in my book. Its also great to get away from MOC-loltappers (especially combined with ML9 Spiritmaster bullshit pet).

Think Hugmeh's vid showed its still pretty possible todo tbh.

agreeked!

Getting away from a group / mocloltapper by just running is so fucking funny, they go all ????

Or you get a pet after you. Anyways thats the risk you take as a stealther trying to kill something in a group, or knowing a group is around. If all fails, die, release and grow a little smarter.

Its more like a 5point RA will save u the 10 mins u need to go back to an enemy land and not giving away rps easily.

This whole concept of "giving away rps" is just lols. Do you really take this game that personally? Who gives a fk, if for example, you would give horner 100mil rps. All the rps in the world wouldnt make him play better then he does now. And if you loose fair and square, then obviously thy enemy deserved every bit of those rps he got of you.

Anyways, ill admit there are situation where vanish can be usefull. But as BC said earlier also, i'd rather spend those 5 points (or 15 oO) into something far more usefull.

 

[anioal]

i'd rather spend those 5 points (or 15 oO) into something far more usefull.

after getting purge3, aug str 3, mopain 3, mos2 what is that thing that costs 5 points and is far more usefull than vanish1?

 

[Neffneff]

after purge3, aug str 3, mopain 3, mos2 what is that thing that costs 5 points and is far more usefull than vanish1?

long wind 2 ofc !

now in all seriousness, vanish is a bugged piece of shit wank of a Realm Ability.

BUT! i have it, as about 1 in 4 times you use it, it might ACTUALLY prevent you from getting nailed by the incoming RP hungry role-players after you just won yerself a 1v1.

it obviously has many other uses, and im not ashamed to use it for whatever i can get away with.

 

[Tuthmes]

after getting purge3, aug str 3, mopain 3, mos2 what is that thing that costs 5 points and is far more usefull than vanish1?

Well beside's the obvious purge3, you can fiddle around with 29points in anyway, but getting vanish for it .

@ Neffneff. Yeah, 5 points spend into something thats up every 15min that actually works 1 out of 4 times, is something we all should get.

 

[Nuxtobatns]

This whole concept of "giving away rps" is just lols. Do you really take this game that personally? Who gives a fk, if for example, you would give horner 100mil rps. All the rps in the world wouldnt make him play better then he does now. And if you loose fair and square, then obviously thy enemy deserved every bit of those rps he got of you.

No need to vanish on a balanced fight (unless a lets say merc dumps on u...and u apply dots...then vanish...use fa... and PA him while he heals; after all..u r an Assassin). And the point not to give rps easily was to many visuals that start sprinting towards u from clip range when they u get out of stealth and fight, or the many stealth grps around that will come sprinting too.

 

[bigchief]

after getting purge3, aug str 3, mopain 3, mos2 what is that thing that costs 5 points and is far more usefull than vanish1?

well take my ra setup

purge3
viper3
mos2
str3
mop3
tough2
lw1
con1

what in that would i drop for vanish? tough2 con1? No thanks, id rather have the 100hp. Er mop down to 2? no way. Same for str. Viper? No chance, it owns archers and tanks at the moment.

And theres other things I would still take before i'd buy vanish. Would love things like FA1(5points), SW1(5points), tough3(6points), mop4(10points) etc

 

[Fanguir]

Givf stealth to all WL then all is ok:england:

 

[Cloudz]

amen, give.

Alleluia Praise The Lord Brother

 

[anioal]

well take my ra setup

purge3
viper3
mos2
str3
mop3
tough2
lw1
con1

what in that would i drop for vanish? tough2 con1? No thanks, id rather have the 100hp. Er mop down to 2? no way. Same for str. Viper? No chance, it owns archers and tanks at the moment.

And theres other things I would still take before i'd buy vanish. Would love things like FA1(5points), SW1(5points), tough3(6points), mop4(10points) etc

remember, we talking about spending 5 realm points after one gets purge3, augstr 3, mopain3 and mos2.

so

sw1. easily replaced with endregen 3 pots, strong endu pots or bounty crystals on much lower timers.

fa1. 25% hp every 3 minutes after 10seconds combat timer. while it has its uses, strong heal pots and bounty crystals can be used in combat or right after and they gives about 250hp on lower timers. also cl heals can provide more hp in a much lower timeframe. but have to admit FA works nice with vanish :>

though2 + augcon1. for me ns that's about 90hp. kinda overrated tbh and i wished to have 90hp more only in those rather rare ocasions when i die and my opponent wins the fight with 1-8% hp left.

viper1. hmm, hitting with lifebane for 75 instead of 60 has its value or more like hittin for 65 instead of 52 with the curent cl resists. in 6 ticks (omg, that's about 24 seconds) is about 80-90 more dmg.

vanish, while being bugged badly by server or client lag, it cant be replaced by cl abilities or pots and it still has a nice utility for those 5 points and it goes very well with the class description - assasinate and go away... (at least on paper).
used at right moments i found it working most of the time. it has been posted already that it is no use to vanish against other stealthers or when someone starts bolting you or an archer is rapid firing you or when you are at 20% hp and next nuke will kill you because of server/client lag

 

[bigchief]

remember, we talking about spending 5 realm points after one gets purge3, augstr 3, mopain3 and mos2.

so

sw1. easily replaced with endregen 3 pots, strong endu pots or bounty crystals on much lower timers.

fa1. 25% hp every 3 minutes after 10seconds combat timer. while it has its uses, strong heal pots and bounty crystals can be used in combat or right after and they gives about 250hp on lower timers. also cl heals can provide more hp in a much lower timeframe. but have to admit FA works nice with vanish :>

though2 + augcon1. for me ns that's about 90hp. kinda overrated tbh and i wished to have 90hp more only in those rather rare ocasions when i die and my opponent wins the fight with 1-8% hp left.

viper1. hmm, hitting with lifebane for 75 instead of 60 has its value or more like hittin for 65 instead of 52 with the curent cl resists. in 6 ticks (omg, that's about 24 seconds) is about 80-90 more dmg.

vanish, while being bugged badly by server or client lag, it cant be replaced by cl abilities or pots and it still has a nice utility for those 5 points and it goes very well with the class description - assasinate and go away... (at least on paper).
used at right moments i found it working most of the time. it has been posted already that it is no use to vanish against other stealthers or when someone starts bolting you or an archer is rapid firing you or when you are at 20% hp and next nuke will kill you because of server/client lag

SW1 is not replaced by pots because they require you to be out of combat. It doesn't and you just keep fighting as if you hadn't just gained a full end bar instantly. Yes the recast on lvl1 is high but 15minutes isn't that high really. And you can use that then use an end pot in the long fights. Its a really nice ability to have.

FA is great on a class with aemez. Kill one person, mez an add just b4 he dies. Can stand there then and heal a little with cl spells, then pop FA and you're on or near 100% again to fight the diiiirty little add.

As for viper. Taking into account my ra's, its not a question of viper1. I have viper3, its not going to be dropped to lvl2 so I can take vanish.

 

[Neffneff]

ack n/m

 

[Golena]

As has been pointed out already the only sensible reason to get it is so you can use it after someone ML/arti dumps, hide for 30 seconds until their i win's go down then re-jump them.
There's too many classes out there that can hit a few buttons and be next to unkillable.. wait 30 seconds and it's much easier..

 

[Reza]

You can use vanish offensively with a bit of creative thinking (especially so for shades who can nuke).

 

[Arumos]

fa1 and vanish1 is the best ra combo an assasin can have, better than /releasing everytime a tank art/ml dumps on you.