Vanish

[Sigidil]

Hey all, I would like all your (NS/SB/INF) opinions about the Vanish ability.

When your fighting a nice fight with an enemy as a shadowblade/nightshade/infiltrator and suddenly there is a FG of people wanting to add you, like Sick - Kinetic - Jordie - Lleana do, not to mention names ofc, you feel like pressing the Vanish RA. Now i've noticed that Vanish not always works as it should be as far as I know. With guards for instance I often get uncovered by guards even if I pressed Vanish.
Now when a wizzard called Kinetic for instance starts bolting at you and you vanish, the bolts still hits you.
My thoughs of <VANISH> is that when you press it (1 2 or 3) you can't get hit by magic, even if a player started casting a spell on you.

I'd like your expiriences with vanish ppl

Thx ahead

Sigi

 

[Septina]

Hey all, I would like all your (NS/SB/INF) opinions about the Vanish ability.

When your fighting a nice fight with an enemy as a shadowblade/nightshade/infiltrator and suddenly there is a FG of people wanting to add you, like Sick - Kinetic - Jordie - Lleana do, not to mention names ofc, you feel like pressing the Vanish RA. Now i've noticed that Vanish not always works as it should be as far as I know. With guards for instance I often get uncovered by guards even if I pressed Vanish.
Now when a wizzard called Kinetic for instance starts bolting at you and you vanish, the bolts still hits you.
My thoughs of <VANISH> is that when you press it (1 2 or 3) you can't get hit by magic, even if a player started casting a spell on you.

I'd like your expiriences with vanish ppl

Thx ahead

Sigi

I'd never spend points on such a useless ra anyway. Big deal if you get zerged , killed whatever blabla. Spending points on an RA that JUST helps you get away from dying = total rubbish imo.

 

[Shike]

hmm im struggling to decide if this is a hidden name and shame thread, or a genuine whine about the mechanics of vanish.

My opinion on vanish is that yes, its a lame RA, yes, it doesnt do what it is supposed to do at lvl1, and yes, its actually a very lame RA, especially when used versus visible targets that do all they can to kill and still get snitched of a kill they fight for. Remove it for all I care

 

[Arethir]

Live to fight another day i guess

 

[Vladamir]

Useless RA, can normally find the vanish-ee when i'm on inf anyway :>

 

[Raven]

pussies way out when they bite off more than they can chew, also gold dust to zerglings.

 

[Ljuvasara]

Afaik, when a bolt or arrow is already in the air, it will still attempt to land, thus uncovering you on a hit. With that being said, I've never had it, so I'm no expert.

 

[kirennia]

Just in case it comes up which it has in previous threads before, I am not kinetic btw, I am kirennitic I don't add like that on purpose

 

[Petwick(Ebony Hand)]

had vanish 1 for a while, worked ok against guards till shades got damage shield,then it just let guards reaquire agro if they hit u as u vanish,

specced it out a little while ago to get MoP4 and havnt really missed it

 

[Aiteal]

had vanish 1 for a while, worked ok against guards till shades got damage shield,then it just let guards reaquire agro if they hit u as u vanish,

specced it out a little while ago to get MoP4 and havnt really missed it

What Pet really means is that my ranger would hang around near a tower grouped with him, he would sneak up and kill some poor underpowered sorc like horner, and vanish to loose guard agro.

Being grouped with him the guards would then make a beeline for my stealthed ranger from miles away whilst I'm busy typing lol and /cheer and keeel me dead.

Isn't that right Pet

 

[Muylaetrix]

a ) bolts will hit you if they are cast before you vanish/stealth. traveling time and such means you might get hit by a bolt, more than 1 sec after vanish / stealth.


b) instas (this is an insta, like so much other stuff) seems prone to failure if the spell queue is full.

 

[Nix]

a ) bolts will hit you if they are cast before you vanish/stealth. traveling time and such means you might get hit by a bolt, more than 1 sec after vanish / stealth.

I've been hit by lifetaps after vanishing too, so it's just not bolts & arrows.

PS. Muylaetrix, give more afking in keep courtyards RR10+ wizzies give yummy RPs for a lowbie shade like me!

 

[Kagato]

If you spent all those RA points on abilities that would actually help you fight better, you might not need to vanish so much in the first place.

 

[Mastade]

If you spent all those RA points on abilities that would actually help you fight better, you might not need to vanish so much in the first place.

Yeh those 5 points is better put of somewhere else so you can deal with multiple adders and rampaging FGs.. go figure

i like vanish as its a nice getaway card for all the times you get uncovered by dickheads or when ppl try and zerg you. 5 points for not giving them realmpoints and not having to release, rebuff, take boat back is well spend imho... even tho its bugged as hell

 

[anioal]

i have vanish1 on me ns and it's an okish ra:
- if you want to survive after a kill and break that 1kill/1death ratio.
- as a cure poison/dot whatever that might kill you on next tick
- it does wonders against warguard+battler monkeys
- it is ok against mocloltappers
- nice to 2-3shot a caster in a zerg and get away, etc

ofc, it fails alot but also it saved me the 10 minutes release-rebuff-boat trip alot
all in all i dont feel i wasted 5 points for it.

 

[Arthuria]

ive had it, but like first aid 1 even better, so nice to kite in water, pop it, stealth, and pa again

 

[Sharkith]

Vanish is for pansies.

 

[Tuthmes]

I'd never spend points on such a useless ra anyway. Big deal if you get zerged , killed whatever blabla. Spending points on an RA that JUST helps you get away from dying = total rubbish imo.

Couldnt have said it better. Total useless RA.

 

[censi]

i thought vanish 1 is the best 5 points an NS can spend.

its shit versus arrows and bolts and dont use it versus mos opponents.

other than that its a great RA.

 

[xxManiacxx]

Loved to use vanish in keep fights. Go in, kill someone and vanish away and see everyone running around looking for you.

Edit: or like i used to do after assassin patch. See a fg, kill caster with aemez poison then vanish

 

[MaCaBr3]

Vanish is one of those luxury RA's, it doesn't do anything at all, but hides you if you don't wanna get zerged or gtfo. I had it for a while, but don't miss at all since I specced out of it.

Maybe with some spare points left it's a bonus RA to have, but till then I cba.

 

[Basic_X]

Loved to use vanish in keep fights. Go in, kill someone and vanish away and see everyone running around looking for you.

Edit: or like i used to do after assassin patch. See a fg, kill caster with aemez poison then vanish

untill someone pops SL then zerg the living shit out of you

 

[xxManiacxx]

untill someone pops SL then zerg the living shit out of you

well then he used an active timer and spent time looking for me and big chance of them getting hit in the back

 

[Puppet]

Too bad its bugged to hell and 90% of the time you still get nuked 2+ times during the 'you cannot be detected'-fase. Oh and ofcourse the zombie-dot doesnt get removed by vanishing so you get repopped 2 seconds later.

I still have it, sometimes its great to deny those adding ***** their RP's. I wouldnt get it at 'low RR' tho.

 

[pip]

Vanish /rude ftw

 

[Perf]

Vanish is for pansies.

You would rather take the certain death, /rel, rebuff, boat trip, back to where you were then?
Vanish 1 imo is worth 5 points, i wouldnt waste more on v2 though. For a lower rr assassin 5 points in vanish is a waste of valuable points but when you can spare them its a very useful tool even if its bugged.
sure if your hangin about bridges with you stealther buddies you'll never never need to vanish, but picture this,
Off you go on a solo trip somewhere, boat trip, stealthed walk to wherever, all the time it takes to camp a spot waiting for a target. It can take a long time, finally kill something only to be caught by another enemy when your on low health. So what do you do Sharkith, try fight your way out and die doing it? only to go through the whole scene again? Bitch about getting added on?. I'd hit vanish have a chance to escape go rest up, redoo poisens, and carry on the hunt.
Ever get bored while waiting for targets? go climb into a keep and see if you get lucky there, it can be a real adreniline rush to kill someone inside the keep, you'll get guard aggro prolly so you /vanish go sit up somewhere nice and high an watch the enemy flapping about for a few mins.
Then back you go to attempt another kill if vanish is down so what? you lived long enough and enjoyed it more imo. Next time you may die but at least you've lived the first time to tell a tale.
Ever stealthed through DF looking for targets and get uncovered by Cambions/shredders etc? if you get too much aggro then its /rel back and maybe cant enter Df again. /vanish, creep away live to carry on the hunt.

Thats my thoughts on it anyway. I view Vanish as a tool which Assassins use to do there job.
Kill and fade away into the crowd. Or attempt the kill, fail but live to try again.

 

[Cromcruaich]

I love bolting stealthers just as they use vanish, with a bit of experience, you can anticpate them doing it. Nothing quite so satisfying.

 

[Fanguir]

/rude

 

[Puppet]

Useless RA, can normally find the vanish-ee when i'm on inf anyway :>

Why would I vanish from you tho, its just nice 2K rps

Anyhow, vanish is great to deal with Warlocks. PA + CD the warlock, vanish (because they will use Purge3) and almost every warlock is cocky enough to hang around. Then bang, you PA him 1 minute later again with his purge down. Justice served and you can just imagine the frustration the WL-player feels.

Ofcourse, you dont need to do that with all WL's, some are really stupid (and RP-horny). Perfed Ravenloc (original name) on top of a bridge tower, CD'ed him, he purged, dropped a DoT-mine and jumped off the tower. Then Ravenloc was so RP-horny he tried to do the jumping contest with me to see who had the best Safefall. Splash and 2K rps richer. Amazing skills from someone who got all his RP's at a bridge to begin with

 

[Tuthmes]

Why would I vanish from you tho, its just nice 2K rps

Anyhow, vanish is great to deal with Warlocks. PA + CD the warlock, vanish (because they will use Purge3) and almost every warlock is cocky enough to hang around. Then bang, you PA him 1 minute later again with his purge down. Justice served and you can just imagine the frustration the WL-player feels.

Ofcourse, you dont need to do that with all WL's, some are really stupid (and RP-horny). Perfed Ravenloc (original name) on top of a bridge tower, CD'ed him, he purged, dropped a DoT-mine and jumped off the tower. Then Ravenloc was so RP-horny he tried to do the jumping contest with me to see who had the best Safefall. Splash and 2K rps richer. Amazing skills from someone who got all his RP's at a bridge to begin with

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