US Guilds Own EU Guilds! .....

[Esselinithia]

Aoln: Raid essentially proven my point. Beating a "random" PE group doesn't mean their opted main group wouldn't be as strong as usual

If Eclipse would go to Behn, with 4 low level alts to PL at Behn fins, a verd ani, etc. and you would ambush them on the way to their xp camp, and kill an fg of eclipse chars, that wouldn't mean much

 

[Aoln]

Yes well thats fairly obvious, when i hear PE group, i think of everyone playing their own main char. (most people are rr10 and 11)

 

[Esselinithia]

Aoln: But when people brag about beating PE flawlessly and diss the guild, that makes you ask: What group they have killed

 

[Aoln]

yes because i know if it was proper group in prime that it wouldnt happen

 

[raid]

Aoln: Raid essentially proven my point. Beating a "random" PE group doesn't mean their opted main group wouldn't be as strong as usual

If Eclipse would go to Behn, with 4 low level alts to PL at Behn fins, a verd ani, etc. and you would ambush them on the way to their xp camp, and kill an fg of eclipse chars, that wouldn't mean much

Yeah well said. However as a little correction, I'm not sure if any old "PE main group" exists anymore, some old players are probably gone forever and current group is pretty much the group we (or should maybe say they since I wont probably play in it regularly) will be running, its just a long way to get it working well

 

[Esselinithia]

raid: Good luck with it, and hope you will enjoy the setup in NF.

 

[Esselinithia]

btw: If you watched when WoW US open beta, etc came out, and seen what happened on US DAoC servers you knew, most people went back to DAoC. When WoW EU started and EU population droped, we had reasons to guess, a lot of DAoC people went to WoW will come back, some will stick to WoW and some will stop playing MMORPGs / go to another game. But what about people who moved to more crowded servers DAoC servers? And it is much harder to recover from this loss of players. Since one who is successfull in US servers, or on german servers, and find them better than Prydwen / excal won't have strong motives to come back...

 

[Heta]

All I can say after playing on US for a while now is that I yet to find a 'good' group there. There are some decent once but not that much. Is most likley cause the best setups are playing when we aint etc. This is on Merlin.

One thing I noticed was that alot of the so called best groups stoped running when the radar bans started to happen, radar usage is so much more common on US servers that it bloody drives me nuts. And people dont hide it or what ever, joined some Vent server while beeing in some groups and they just talk about it in the open(left the groups and reported the guy who was using it)

 

[Gotrag]

Back on subject now i wouldnt mind playing on US servers pm me or something pretty much up for playing any realm

 

[Huntingtons]

well, never played us but i guess their best set grps are just as good as EU's best set grps (NP, PE, DH to name the realms) but the casual US player, the wannabe leet and so on are dimwits, clueless retards who can be farmed by any semi good grp from EU... i had a mate who never played ma, bought svg account, rr2 he was put ma in a US grp and they gangraped whole server, he had never seen anything like it.

 

[Belomar]

Any discussion about the "skill" of US versus EU DAoC groups will just devolve into a USA vs Europe discussion... And before you know it, someone will mention the war.

 

[cHodAX]

Regardless of what Brite has said, PE are a great players and when the field thier strongest 1fg there are very few other in the world that can cope with them. I am certain that a pickup group loaded with high realm rank players can give a non-opted PE group not comprised of thier best 1fg a run for thier money, at the top of the food chain on Prydwen things are pretty tight anyway and when you pit quality against quality you will always get close fights. The record speaks for itself though, PE (and those other guilds I mentioned plus a few more) are great players and right up there with the very best in Europe, which in my opinion means the world. Everything I have ever read, seen or been told strongly leads me to truely believe that as well.

 

[Huntingtons]

problem is that the voice in US is from the casual newbs who think they rox the boxors etc. and not the truely skilled guilds (no idea who they are tho), so you shouldn't claim it like that - when i see the best guilds from US play vs the best from EU ill comment on who is the best but can't do it it now.

 

[Dakkath]

It would certainly be amusing to roll over there and kick their behinds

It's something I'd love to do but I couldn't face it without a dedicated group of people working on levelling etc together...

Can't stand solo anymore

 

[Brite]

was only teasing PE group anyway i know they dont suck ;P

and btw who the hell are DH?!?

 

[Helium]

was only teasing PE group anyway i know they dont suck ;P

and btw who the hell are DH?!?

Dem Hibbies ? ;o exal/hib guild grp

 

[Brite]

Dem Hibbies ? ;o exal/hib guild grp

oh ye forgot ;P

i was thinking he was going to say danish huscarls and i could laff :<

 

[Ctuchik]

No but they'd know EU >>> US. but just wouldnt admit it

do we acually CARE what they say over there?



lets all argue whos most 1337 in a game shall we?

 

[Esselinithia]

Btw: RvR performance is just one aspect to measure how good a guild is. Community is another important element. Helping people in PVE is another. Helping the realm with advice, content, etc is another (remember: vos is part of a guild site). Getting new people to the game, teaching them, etc. is another part. (Making T shirts with custom fan made daoc art, visiting cons and recruiting for the guild and the game can be a bigger deed than an killing a grp in RvR.)

 

[Heta]

what you are talking about is beeing a good roleplayer xD

 

[Dwali]

i can say like this...pre SI there was only 3 guilds that can be classes as the best on prydwen...and that was SoTL/NP and a mid guild...can´t remeber...they ownd any fg and when they faced each 1 it was a long an fun fight to whatch!

 

[Edlina]

i can say like this...pre SI there was only 3 guilds that can be classes as the best on prydwen...and that was SoTL/NP and a mid guild...can´t remeber...they ownd any fg and when they faced each 1 it was a long an fun fight to whatch!

NP didn't actively play Prydwen 'till a bit after the camlann epidemic died out (only lvl'ed to prep for camlann), my memory certainly is lacking, but if I'm not mistaken at best NP was barely (if at all) active on Pryd pre SI...

 

[Killerbee]

Brite: tbh. I know AoD was another 1337 guild on pryd/alb. Was surprised when 3-4 members didn't know that they can move their ground target in 3 dimensions, so it is easy to placea GT on top of towers without climbing up and getting owned by PBAOE.

Elf, getting a bit annoying that you post this example like 34161236721378th times.

 

[Killerbee]

i can say like this...pre SI there was only 3 guilds that can be classes as the best on prydwen...and that was SoTL/NP and a mid guild...can´t remeber...they ownd any fg and when they faced each 1 it was a long an fun fight to whatch!

Warders werent unbeatable, they had good grps tho.

 

[old.Tohtori]

All i can say is that neverever have i managed to "pwn" so many people in the EU forums with a spoof thread then i did back in the days on the VN boards.

This speaks volumes on the "wit" of the american gamesheeps

Not that there's anything wrong in being a bit blind to Teh Seel.

 

[Ticking]

Tbh think radar usage is just about same here or there- just here on EU you never hear anything about bannings and such, wonder if GOA even will ask the tool they used in US to ban @.75(unless it comes with the patch)

 

[Esselinithia]

Ticking: About radar detection tool, there is a simple problem. When Mythic updates the tool, and bans a batch of players, the developer of the radar software updates his software to fool the new tool, which will work undetected till Mythic updates their detection tool. When GOA uses the needed patch and the detection tool, you see another pacth on US server, and the radar cheat developers already released their new version that works even with that patch.