Politics US Election 2020

[Job]

I support free speech unless its morally questionable.


So you dont support free speech at all then.

 

[Raven]

Not only can you not spell, you can't quote either.

Is there anything you can do? Aside from talk absolute bollocks, obvs.

 

[Job]

How ironic, seeing has Deebs has removed my ability to qoute.

 

[Deebs]

How ironic, seeing has Deebs has removed my ability to qoute.

No I have not. You are talking bollox as usual.

 

[Scouse]

Democrats have kiddie-fiddling bases on Mars.

THAT's why Elon Musk is desparate to get there!

 

[Scouse]

So, post Trump's twitter ban people all over the world are asking who else should be banned.

Trump social media ban sparks calls for action against other populist leaders

After US president’s ban, some wonder if action will be taken against populists accused of using social media to stir chaos

www.theguardian.com

This is hugely dangerous for public discourse. It's china-ization of speech.

 

[Raven]

Trump was banned specifically for inciting violence, not for talking twaddle.

 

[Job]

Its endless and tiresome, just a pantomime played over the top for our consumption.

They spent years condeming Trumps wall and his racism towards Mexicans, even though they built the thing.


View: https://streamable.com/vt2hk9

I mean how do you support any part of..how do you disconnect your intelligence to think this is anything but a media farce...they are playing us all like a fiddle and now they see half of us will fall for it, now its go for gold and shut down any opposing voices.
You are living in 1984 and the more people point it out, the more you dig in.

 

[Scouse]

Trump was banned specifically for inciting violence

In the opinion of a social network. Not in any court of law.

 

[Ormorof]

Its endless and tiresome, just a pantomime played over the top for our consumption.

They spent years condeming Trumps wall and his racism towards Mexicans, even though they built the thing.


View: https://streamable.com/vt2hk9

I mean how do you support any part of..how do you disconnect your intelligence to think this is anything but a media farce...they are playing us all like a fiddle and now they see half of us will fall for it, now its go for gold and shut down any opposing voices.
You are living in 1984 and the more people point it out, the more you dig in.

You have a very inconsistent record on this, you accept as gospel the word of media outlets that you agree with, run by billionaires with an agenda, and decry anything else as "msm" or a media farce. You support the very groups and parties that are in favour of less personal control over our data and less regulations for these companies.

Then you tell us how we are all sheep and digging in to support for 1984 style surveillance society, its bizarre, feels sometimes like theres two conflicting personalities using the same account

 

[Deebs]

In the opinion of a social network. Not in any court of law.

In violation of their Terms of Service. He was allowed to break their ToS much more than any other user of the service.

Others were banned for calling people cunts, others for equally less violations than many of tRumps.

 

[Job]

The tweets were a joke, they had clearly decided to ban him regardless of what he typed next.


“The 75,000,000 great American Patriots who voted for me, AMERICA FIRST, and MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN, will have a GIANT VOICE long into the future. They will not be disrespected or treated unfairly in any way, shape or form!!!”

Shortly thereafter, the President Tweeted:

“To all of those who have asked, I will not be going to the Inauguration on January 20th.”


Like what?

Their explanation for the ban is a complete reach into.. we can do what the fuck we like and connect any dots we want
Ours is the powah!!!!

Permanent suspension of @realDonaldTrump

Suspension of @realDonaldTrump

blog.twitter.com

 

[Scouse]

In violation of their Terms of Service.

That's never been in dispute @Deebs old bean. And you know why that's still an issue.

Just because it's written down somewhere, even in law, doesn't make it right. - that's why we review and change laws. Private terms of service are there to solely benefit the corporation that wrote them, not society at large.

 

[Embattle]

That's never been in dispute @Deebs old bean. And you know why that's still an issue.

But it isn't.

 

[Deebs]

That's never been in dispute @Deebs old bean. And you know why that's still an issue.

Just because it's written down somewhere, even in law, doesn't make it right. - that's why we review and change laws. Private terms of service are there to solely benefit the corporation that wrote them, not society at large.

It it becomes a law then Government controls free speech. Period. Do you not see that?

 

[Job]

Observations from a Texas Maga


View: https://youtu.be/EnLWPZPnH1k

 

[Wij]

What Parler Saw During the Attack on the Capitol

ProPublica sifted through thousands of videos taken by Parler users to create an immersive, first-person view of the Capitol riot as experienced by those who were there.

projects.propublica.org

Also remember that Glenn Greenwald said that none of them were even on Parler because he is basically Fox News but with less shame.

 

[caLLous]

 

[Job]

Strangely AOC is pointing the finger at Facebook and Youtube.

Attending dinner parties with white supremacist sympathisers no less.

AOC casts blame on Facebook’s Mark Zuckerberg for Capitol riot

“He is part of this problem,” the Democrat said at an online town hall meeting Friday with Bronx and Queens constituents. “And Mark Zuckerberg and Facebook bear partial responsibi…

www.google.com

 

[Scouse]

It it becomes a law then Government controls free speech. Period. Do you not see that?

Of course I do. Interestingly, though:

If the US government nationalised Facebook, then they'd have to let everyone have unrestricted freedom of speech on it. Explain that one to Trumpistas; the only way to give them 1st Amendment "Freedom" on Social media is through state ownership, and than stand back as their heads explode.

 

[Ormorof]

Strangely AOC is pointing the finger at Facebook and Youtube.

Attending dinner parties with white supremacist sympathisers no less.

AOC casts blame on Facebook’s Mark Zuckerberg for Capitol riot

“He is part of this problem,” the Democrat said at an online town hall meeting Friday with Bronx and Queens constituents. “And Mark Zuckerberg and Facebook bear partial responsibi…

www.google.com

Didn't see anything in article about dinner parties what are you on about?

 

[Raven]

Strangely AOC is pointing the finger at Facebook and Youtube.

Attending dinner parties with white supremacist sympathisers no less.

AOC casts blame on Facebook’s Mark Zuckerberg for Capitol riot

“He is part of this problem,” the Democrat said at an online town hall meeting Friday with Bronx and Queens constituents. “And Mark Zuckerberg and Facebook bear partial responsibi…

www.google.com

...and she may be right that they are "part" (word of the day for you to learn Job, baby steps) of the problem. If facebook are dumb enough to use fuckwits to fact-check fuckwits, I mean, using Tucker Carlson's baby to fact-check stuff, lolwtf...*

*If true, I have no idea.

But either way, mental people have had free rein to scream their bile all over the place since the internet began, and we have already seen, you can't reason with morons (like yourself) because they lack that basic human function of wanting to learn, like yourself.

 

[Job]

Didn't see anything in article about dinner parties what are you on about?

Its in the 3rd paragraph??

 

[Job]

To simplify the entire thousand levels of bullshit.

Trump wasnt part of the wizard of Oz, he came in as an independent and started pointing out all the levers behind the curtain, so the Oz machine defended itself, but it was too late and he gained power.
So for four years the machine ground him down at every turn until it regained the power.

Trump isnt a good guy because he wants to be the wizard and his next step will be to build another Oz.

 

[dysfunction]

To simplify the entire thousand levels of bullshit.

Trump wasnt part of the wizard of Oz, he came in as an independent and started pointing out all the levers behind the curtain, so the Oz machine defended itself, but it was too late and he gained power.
So for four years the machine ground him down at every turn until it regained the power.

Trump isnt a good guy because he wants to be the wizard and his next step will be to build another Oz.

You have it wrong. Trump saw an opportunity to make more money and have more power so brainwashed millions to follow his dream of "making America great again". When in reality he didn't have any intention of doing that at all.
But the likes of you still believe he has your best interests at heart. Which is utter bollocks. He only cares about himself.

 

[Raven]

Apparently he has made 200million dollars since losing the election, all from idiots like Job. Pretty lucrative business model.

Trump raised $200m from false election claims. What happens to the money now?

The president could use the funds to ensure he and his allies remain a powerful force in US politics

www.theguardian.com

 

[Job]

You cant stick that one on Trump, he's been politically active since the early 90s and was repeating the exact same rhetoric against the establishment and media then as he does now.
You can see his emotion, but hes not articulate enough to present his case, so they ridicule him.
Later on he found support in people who resist smooth talking shysters and connect with his more basic vocabulary.



View: https://youtu.be/fI2eFnPcFLM

 

[Raven]

You cant stick that one on Trump,

Yes you can, he has been asking for donations.

he's been politically active since the early 90s and was repeating the exact same rhetoric against the establishment and media then as he does now.
You can see his emotion, but hes not articulate enough to present his case, so they ridicule him.
Later on he found support in people who resist smooth talking shysters and connect with his more basic vocabulary.


View: https://youtu.be/fI2eFnPcFLM

You mean he is thick and attracts thick voters?

 

[DaGaffer]

You cant stick that one on Trump, he's been politically active since the early 90s and was repeating the exact same rhetoric against the establishment and media then as he does now.
You can see his emotion, but hes not articulate enough to present his case, so they ridicule him.
Later on he found support in people who resist smooth talking shysters and connect with his more basic vocabulary.



View: https://youtu.be/fI2eFnPcFLM

You mean he was complaining because journalists had this nasty habit of calling him to account for his actions? You do understand this is actually their job? If anything the US media routinely softballs corporations and CEOs far too much, and Trump was no different in that regard.

Trump decided to put himself in the limelight, so that he was the brand, and just like other CEOs who decide to take that approach, you get more scrutiny, and the evidence of the last four years shows that he cannot, can not, have anyone questioning him, which is why his administration has had the highest staff turnover in American history by miles (none of the presidents since WW2 even come close, even when they served two terms).

Later on he found support in people who resist smooth talking shysters and connect with his more basic vocabulary.

You mean apart from the smooth talking shyster right in front of them? Trump dumbed it down. Look at the very video you posted from 1990. Nothing wrong with his vocabulary there. The folksy language and his whole schtick was developed to appeal to his base. His education and background is the elite, is as sophisticated as any Harvard-educated journalist or politician, he simply plays a different role. Now, he's getting older and isn't as quick on his mental toes but the idea that "more basic vocabulary" was anything more than an act is ludicrous. Trump is not, and never has been, a man of the people.

 

[Job]

Its not and wasnt an act, he repeats himself because he cant think of what to say next in a situation where he has to think on his feet.

At the rallies hes part teleprompter and part winging it and he can be quite engaging and funny.
But when hit with direct unexpected questions he reverts to waffle.

Bit like Ant and Dec.