United States Corrupt Twattery

[Job]

Hold my beer.


View: http://i.imgur.com/lxVpCqu.gifv

 

[Raven]

Its funny because republicans actually fought against slavery.

 

[Job]

That dive...epic.

 

[Ormorof]

I still dont see the problem with anyone using whatever bathroom they choose

The amount of people that will "abuse" the legislation is miniscule, most people dont care and will just use whatever

 

[Raven]

I will remember that the next time I curl one off in the ladies.

I just hope nobody assumes my gender though.

 

[Hawkwind]

I still dont see the problem with anyone using whatever bathroom they choose

The amount of people that will "abuse" the legislation is miniscule, most people dont care and will just use whatever

It's not really about toilets, it's more about changing areas for sports at colleges etc. Basically confused anatomically male persons using female changing rooms. The girls complaining it makes them uncomfortable but PC won the day as colleges were afraid of getting sued etc. Ridiculous situation. Quite honestly I don't see an issue here. Trump effectively passed the buck back to the States removing the Federal ruling that forced compliance.

 

[Raven]

It's not really about toilets, it's more about changing areas for sports at colleges etc. Basically confused anatomically male persons using female changing rooms. The girls complaining it makes them uncomfortable but PC won the day as colleges were afraid of getting sued etc. Ridiculous situation. Quite honestly I don't see an issue here. Trump effectively passed the buck back to the States removing the Federal ruling that forced compliance.

This, but I assume people who are throwing a hissy fit about it without having the first idea about it are more than happy for their female kids/sisters/mums to have to get changed/go for a shit with men.

According to @BloodOmen having a proplem with that is homophobic so err....yeah, you can see the level of intellect we are dealing with here.

Great way to see a bit of live clunge though, just make up some gender and drop your pants in the girls toilets.

 

[Job]

It's just all part of the slow deconstruction of the human condition.
Absolutes are being eroded by changing morality, culture and technology.
What is anything when we can morph it between states, photography, video, sound can all be manipulated until no one knows where the truth lies, edges are blurred, where does one thing stop and another start, the legal system is struggling allready, as you can see from 31 genders, in fact they admit is basically infinite, with fines including imprisonment for violating the rules of engagement with any one of them.
Silly season of course, just move the goalposts I guess.

 

[Raven]

Well, no...its actually plain old common decency. But because a couple of emotional types think their civil rights are being fucked with or whatever we (well, 'Muricans) have got into a completely retarded situation. This is actually one of the bits of legislation that has been sensibly taken out back and shot.

Sometimes you just cannot feasibly be completely inclusive, its just unworkable.

 

[Wij]

Well, no its actually plain old common decency. But because a couple of emotional types think their civil rights are being fucked with or whatever we (well, 'Muricans) have got into a completely retarded situation. This is actually one of the bits of legislation that has been sensibly taken out back and shot.

Sometimes you just cannot feasibly be completely inclusive, its just unworkable.

*look at Raven's cock for a bit*

 

[Raven]

*wiggles*

 

[Scouse]

I like black-and-white and cannot cope with grey areas, never mind change.

Fixed

 

[Job]

Its just a circlejerk.
We'll take it all apart, be all made up with ourselves.
Then we'll be like..'Let's put it back together', we like it with the cover back on.

 

[Ormorof]

Let people pee/poop in whatever room they want

 

[Job]

Nuttall walloped, he just needs to fuck off.

 

[Wij]

At this point I'd say it was mostly assumptions - if there was a concrete link to Russia, we would have heard about it by now.

View: https://twitter.com/Khanoisseur/status/817982670277746688


In fact Trump casinos was fined $10m for persistent money laundering violations. It was a fake operation deliberately set up to lose money but clean Russian criminal proceeds.

 

[Job]

Still...suspiciously long time to find it.

Thats a game over accusation

 

[Wij]

Nuttall walloped, he just needs to fuck off.

I expect his website will claim he won and that he donated the win to Hillsborough orphans and then went off to fight for the Rebellion on Hoth.

 

[Raven]

I think their ought to be another vote because he didn't lose by enough of a margin.

 

[Wij]

For what it's worth, Sweden's official response:

Facts about migration and crime in Sweden

 

[Scouse]

I think their ought to be another vote because he didn't lose by enough of a margin.

Nah. It's not an all-encompassing multi-country life-and-structure changing decision based on a campaign of lies and a tiny margin.

It's just Stoke.

 

[Scouse]

For what it's worth, Sweden's official response:

Facts about migration and crime in Sweden

Wow @Wij. A fact-based discussion eh? How do you feel about that statement from the government of Sweden @Job? Sounds like they're doing very well compared to almost every other country in Europe despite high levels of immigration per capita and they're not being culturally destroyed in any way to me?

 

[fettoken]

For what it's worth, Sweden's official response:

Facts about migration and crime in Sweden

Sweden's turned into:

N00000 there's no gun violence..

"Facts: In general terms, violence has decreased in Sweden in the last 20 years. Data from the Swedish Crime Survey shows that in terms of lethal violence, there has generally been a downward trend over the past 25 years."

Few lines down: "The number of confirmed or suspected shootings was 20 per cent higher in 2014 than in 2006. The statistics also show that 17 people were killed with firearms in 2011, while the corresponding figure in 2015 was 33."

Present time, 2017, there's been 12+ shootings in Malmö alone. So yes, violence upped it's game.

 

[Scouse]

Present time, 2017, there's been 12+ shootings in Malmö alone. So yes, violence upped it's game.

Short term trend perhaps?:

Despite the fact that the number of immigrants in Sweden has increased since the 1990s, exposure to violent crimes has declined

It's also not really spilling out into the general public:

lethal violence using firearms has increased within the context of criminal conflicts

And the murder rate in Sweden is about the same as the UK per head of population. So, out of 218 countries examined in the UNODC we're in the bottom 30 at ~0.7-0.9/100,000 unlike the United States at 3.9 (and Honduras at 84.6).

So, not really a problem which ever way you look at it - a rise in fuck all is still pretty much fuck all.

 

[Job]

Wow @Wij. A fact-based discussion eh? How do you feel about that statement from the government of Sweden @Job? Sounds like they're doing very well compared to almost every other country in Europe despite high levels of immigration per capita and they're not being culturally destroyed in any way to me?

DESPITE high levels of ghettoism, we're talking Sweden here, it's hardly Birmingham.
Did you honestly expect a Swedish minister to come out with anything but good news.
Let's see how it goes in the next election.

 

[Scouse]

DESPITE high levels of ghettoism, we're talking Sweden here, it's hardly Birmingham.
Did you honestly expect a Swedish minister to come out with anything but good news.
Let's see how it goes in the next election.

The story is Sweden has one of the lowest crime rates anywhere in the world DESPITE high levels of brown-people immigration.

Fact


But of course they're all lying aren't they @Job. Because you ignore all facts that don't fit your anti-brown world view.

 

[Scouse]

To be fair, this has got me thinking about so-called "fake news". The biggest proponents of which are obviously the right wing.

Yes, traditional media is absolutely, shockingly, awful. Terribly misleading on many many levels. But there was at least an attempt to have a basic level of fact checking.

But nowadays people like Job read stuff about how terrible Sweden is going - when by any objective measure it's one of the most stable, prosperous, peaceful countries on the planet. Then they tweet/facebook/share their bullshit "information" to like-minded people and there's a circle jerk of idiots building momentum that are having a disproportionately large and destabilising effect on mainstream politics.

Amazing to see that it's gripped America by the balls.

 

[Tom]

What you have to remember is that Job hasn't got a clue what he's talking about. Half the nonsense he posts comes straight from Reddit's front page, the other half is probably from the Leave EU Facebook group.

Basically, he's full of shit.

 

[Wij]

To be fair, this has got me thinking about so-called "fake news". The biggest proponents of which are obviously the right wing.

Yes, traditional media is absolutely, shockingly, awful. Terribly misleading on many many levels. But there was at least an attempt to have a basic level of fact checking.

But nowadays people like Job read stuff about how terrible Sweden is going - when by any objective measure it's one of the most stable, prosperous, peaceful countries on the planet. Then they tweet/facebook/share their bullshit "information" to like-minded people and there's a circle jerk of idiots building momentum that are having a disproportionately large and destabilising effect on mainstream politics.

Amazing to see that it's gripped America by the balls.

I wouldn't say that fake news is really a right-wing thing although obviously we're all concentrating on the Trumpistas at the moment. A huge amount of fake news noise and troll-bot commenters come from the Kremlin.

It's about destabilising the institution's that oppose Putin. Useful idiots on the left as well as the right are the target. The left is particularly useful for anti-fracking propaganda noise which helps with the oil and gas prices which are essential to the Russian petro-state.

Many sites popular with radicals on the right and left are merely fronts for Russian propaganda.

The List

Surprising ones like naturalnews.com. I thought it was just crank medicine but there's a load of pro Putin agenda and pro-Trump himself crap on there.

 

[Bodhi]

I think their ought to be another vote because he didn't lose by enough of a margin.

Well yes, but did the people of Stoke really know what they were voting for?