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[Scouse]

They would never have been voted in @DaGaffer.

Political correctness took a real hold when me and you were still young. In the decades since it's set us against each other - it's disunited us on religious, racial and sexual grounds - and ended up in culture war bullshit and ridiculously partisan politics.

Trump and this current shitshow is simply a natural end point of decades of "leftist" bullshit.

Big picture thinking. Not current politics as performance bullshit. Trump was right when he said it makes "great TV" - I've been inundated by whatsapps on a middle eastern work group this morning. They've all seen it and the trending emotiin is "what did zelensky expect? 350bn for free?"

But it's all sideshow in terms of what's important. Ukraine, Russia - they don't matter. The Trump phenomenom in the US is happening in the US - but we've a parallel in Europe. And although Vance is a giant opportuniistic thundercunt with ulterior motives - when he struck out at the EU for subverting free speech and the political elites running in fear from tgeir own voters - he was just using the weapon that would be most effective.

It's true.

The messenger is a wanker. But whilst we're looking at the US and Russia we're not fighting to preserve our entire way of life at home.

Home is where our important battle is. But, like ze Germans in the 1920s and 30's we're utterly blind, no, complicit in our problems.

Principles underpin everything.

 

[Gwadien]

They would never have been voted in @DaGaffer.

Political correctness took a real hold when me and you were still young. In the decades since it's set us against each other - it's disunited us on religious, racial and sexual grounds - and ended up in culture war bullshit and ridiculously partisan politics.

Trump and this current shitshow is simply a natural end point of decades of "leftist" bullshit.

Big picture thinking. Not current politics as performance bullshit. Trump was right when he said it makes "great TV" - I've been inundated by whatsapps on a middle eastern work group this morning. They've all seen it and the trending emotiin is "what did zelensky expect? 350bn for free?"

But it's all sideshow in terms of what's important. Ukraine, Russia - they don't matter. The Trump phenomenom in the US is happening in the US - but we've a parallel in Europe. And although Vance is a giant opportuniistic thundercunt with ulterior motives - when he struck out at the EU for subverting free speech and the political elites running in fear from tgeir own voters - he was just using the weapon that would be most effective.

It's true.

The messenger is a wanker. But whilst we're looking at the US and Russia we're not fighting to preserve our entire way of life at home.

Home is where our important battle is. But, like ze Germans in the 1920s and 30's we're utterly blind, no, complicit in our problems.

Principles underpin everything.

The irony of invoking inter war Germany, the reason the Nazis got to power is because they were free to chat shit and aired their support for freedom fo speech but once in power immediately removed it.

Is it because Trump has been in power before and the response was exaggerated? People are more worried now because of the people he's appointed to power, they all want to melt existing structures to the ground and rebuild them in the MAGA way, and most importantly, they're all yes men.

You're right though - Ukraine is absolutely a distraction from the real damage being done, to USAID for instance, it's a great time to invest your crypto into people smuggling.

 

[Scouse]

The Nazi's removed freedom of speech because it's the only protection against tyrrany.

You might be right about Trump's motives - but you're ignoring the fact that we're rapidly losing the small amojnts of free speech we ever had at home and are now arresting people for jokes, bantz, peaceful protest and standing still.

We're becoming tyrannical - and it's with public collaboration.

What is going on in the US is a distraction. Vance should be ignored, but his message to Europe shouldn't be.

 

[Ormorof]

Trump and this current shitshow is simply a natural end point of decades of "leftist" bullshit.

I feel like this is a common theme but personally I feel it's completely bullshit, the idea that censorship is a lefty thing is dumb, Conservative Party in the UK happier than anyone to shut down anyone and any org that disagrees, to put protesters in jail. The right win billionaire class run media organisations are the first to call for boycotts (notice how it's boycotts when the right calls for it but "cancel culture " when they get called out for being assholes). Freedom of speech is a myth in the US no matter how much they harp on about it, spend 5 minutes looking it up and you will be watching how brutally protests are handled, how people making their voice heard are dragged out of town halls, have cars smashed into protests, have "militias" show up and shoot people. Or just plain intimidated into silence.

The reason (in my humble opinion) popupations are embracing the far right is because the political class have been focused entirely on surface issues, so that's what's become the only thing that divides them. Who gives a fuck about pronouns. The climate is on fire, western civilization is on verge of a population crash due to an ageing population, the economic model we have relied on for decades is failing, the autocratic, frankly evil, regimes are at the door, have invaded Ukraine, are fighting proxy wars in Africa, and we have no answer, no discussions on how to deal with any of this. The far right don't have the answers either, but they play on people's frustration and anger at a world slipping away and give an easy scapegoat.

People who go on about "woke" or "DEI" causing problems have just swallowed this crap whole and haven't bothered to actually think about it.

DEI ranting being a particular bug bear of mine, in the history of companies anywhere no one has ever, EVER, sat and had a conversation "nope we can't hire this candidate who is better we have to hire this minority person" that's not how any of it works and if you think it does it will assume you have never actually taken part in hiring or recruitment in any kind of serious way

 

[Lamp]

I think Vance is more dangerous than Trump.