United States Corrupt Twattery

Scouse

Dennis Quaid lover
FH Subscriber
Joined
Dec 22, 2003
Messages
31,586
Its literally written into US Law (and has been since 1953!) that the US government has to lease off these tracts.
Are they lawmakers?

*have been drinking but sober enough to understand that hiding behind law isn't an argument...

**will engage tomorrow :)
 

Wij

I am a FH squatter
FH Subscriber
Joined
Dec 23, 2003
Messages
15,889
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RCcKXz1P3vU


very interesting and a sad indictment of the media
lol

Sorry but that is Alex Jones shit there. Irrelevant ranting. The FBI investigations into Carter Page and such was not started by the Steele Dossier. The timeline makes that impossible. But let's just ignore basic facts and go off on one. He happily ignores the separate findings of the Senate Intelligence report which show plenty of connections between the Trump campaign and Russia like the fact that Paul Manafort has been involved with Russian intelligence for decades.

He's always been a nob but he now considers himself Glenn Greenwald with a beard. He'll be on Tucker Carlson's show any day now :)
 

Wij

I am a FH squatter
FH Subscriber
Joined
Dec 23, 2003
Messages
15,889
Are they lawmakers?

*have been drinking but sober enough to understand that hiding behind law isn't an argument...

**will engage tomorrow :)
Changing law requires a senate super-majority unless you can make it a finance bill.
 

Hawkwind

I am a FH squatter
FH Subscriber
Joined
Jul 5, 2004
Messages
7,539
lol

Sorry but that is Alex Jones shit there. Irrelevant ranting. The FBI investigations into Carter Page and such was not started by the Steele Dossier. The timeline makes that impossible. But let's just ignore basic facts and go off on one. He happily ignores the separate findings of the Senate Intelligence report which show plenty of connections between the Trump campaign and Russia like the fact that Paul Manafort has been involved with Russian intelligence for decades.

He's always been a nob but he now considers himself Glenn Greenwald with a beard. He'll be on Tucker Carlson's show any day now :)
Bullshit and typical left wing bollocks. Don't like it so it's racist/ right wing / [insert label here].

Personally I think he makes some good points in the video. Actually backed up by the investigation which has already led to two indictments. Funny how the media have labelled him just as you did! He even talked about it in the video.

The democrats manipulated the senate intel committee report as well you know. Jerry fucking Nadler knew damned well it was bullshit and hearsay. He had the briefings from CIA and ignored them. The FBI was biased due to the guy leading the investigation, again known.

Seriously 2 indictments and your still clinging to the idea that it was real and not that it was totally made up for political purposes.

As I've stated many times Trump is a twat and an idiot but the Democrats are even worse from what I've seen. Obama days were so good but the decline of the party is all too apparent. Pandering to the woke and equally as sleazy if not worse than the GOP. Biden laptop... Pelosi should be in jail after the insider trading. I don't believe her husband was unaware of what the party were intending to do with big tech but gets off anyway. She and husband made $5M on that bet.

US politics is an absurd joke and sleazy to the core.

/Drunk rugby watching rant off
 

Gwadien

Uneducated Northern Cretin
Joined
Jul 15, 2006
Messages
18,580
The bloke literally incited his supporters to storm the Capitol.

Yet, fuck the woke people.

lol.
 

Wij

I am a FH squatter
FH Subscriber
Joined
Dec 23, 2003
Messages
15,889
Bullshit and typical left wing bollocks. Don't like it so it's racist/ right wing / [insert label here].

Personally I think he makes some good points in the video. Actually backed up by the investigation which has already led to two indictments. Funny how the media have labelled him just as you did! He even talked about it in the video.

The democrats manipulated the senate intel committee report as well you know. Jerry fucking Nadler knew damned well it was bullshit and hearsay. He had the briefings from CIA and ignored them. The FBI was biased due to the guy leading the investigation, again known.

Seriously 2 indictments and your still clinging to the idea that it was real and not that it was totally made up for political purposes.

As I've stated many times Trump is a twat and an idiot but the Democrats are even worse from what I've seen. Obama days were so good but the decline of the party is all too apparent. Pandering to the woke and equally as sleazy if not worse than the GOP. Biden laptop... Pelosi should be in jail after the insider trading. I don't believe her husband was unaware of what the party were intending to do with big tech but gets off anyway. She and husband made $5M on that bet.

US politics is an absurd joke and sleazy to the core.

/Drunk rugby watching rant off
That's roughly about as credible as the Uranium One conspiracy theory which I presume you adhere to too.
 

Hawkwind

I am a FH squatter
FH Subscriber
Joined
Jul 5, 2004
Messages
7,539
That's roughly about as credible as the Uranium One conspiracy theory which I presume you adhere to too.
LOL. No, far from it. I am surprised that your not labelling me though.

Just to clear are you saying Biden jr laptop is not real? Because he did kinda admit it was his. Regardless he is a complete grifter.

I have always read both sides and right now the democrats look shit.
 
Last edited:

Hawkwind

I am a FH squatter
FH Subscriber
Joined
Jul 5, 2004
Messages
7,539
The bloke literally incited his supporters to storm the Capitol.

Yet, fuck the woke people.

lol.
Yes to fuck wokeness. But agree Trump did incite people to capital.

Just look at the lawlessness in those woke run democrat cities. I want no part of that and hope to god it stays that side of the Atlantic.
 

Gwadien

Uneducated Northern Cretin
Joined
Jul 15, 2006
Messages
18,580
Yes to fuck wokeness. But agree Trump did incite people to capital.

Just look at the lawlessness in those woke run democrat cities. I want no part of that and hope to god it stays that side of the Atlantic.
What lawlessness? I remember there being some shit during the riots but I haven't got any knowledge of it on going.

Also it's interesting that you consider the African American mistrust of police as being 'woke'.
 

Wij

I am a FH squatter
FH Subscriber
Joined
Dec 23, 2003
Messages
15,889
LOL. No, far from it. I am surprised that your not labelling me though.

Just to clear are you saying Biden jr laptop is not real? Because he did kinda admit it was his. Regardless he is a complete grifter.

I have always read both sides and right now the democrats look shit.
He basically said he had no idea if the laptop was his. So not an admission. But sure some weirdo in Delaware has his laptop for some reason and only releases bits he’s taken from it as PDFs. We have to trust him that it was Hunters laptop and that was on it. Like he’s Joseph fucking Smith or something :)

 

Hawkwind

I am a FH squatter
FH Subscriber
Joined
Jul 5, 2004
Messages
7,539
Also it's interesting that you consider the African American mistrust of police as being 'woke'.
I don't and have never stated that but continue making up my views. It's very clear why they mistrust them.

However, defunding the police as a reactionary measure has not gone so well. Which is why some cities have recently added funding trying to contain the increased crime. But carry on ignore the obvious. Defunding without proper plans or replacement services was plain stupid.
 

Hawkwind

I am a FH squatter
FH Subscriber
Joined
Jul 5, 2004
Messages
7,539
He basically said he had no idea if the laptop was his. So not an admission. But sure some weirdo in Delaware has his laptop for some reason and only releases bits he’s taken from it as PDFs. We have to trust him that it was Hunters laptop and that was on it. Like he’s Joseph fucking Smith or something :)

I will try to find it but he recently said it could be his. Given the content released I do think that is likely.
 

Wij

I am a FH squatter
FH Subscriber
Joined
Dec 23, 2003
Messages
15,889
I don't and have never stated that but continue making up my views. It's very clear why they mistrust them.

However, defunding the police as a reactionary measure has not gone so well. Which is why some cities have recently added funding trying to contain the increased crime. But carry on ignore the obvious. Defunding without proper plans or replacement services was plain stupid.
Defund the Police was a slogan that bombed in 2020 but republicans won’t let it go. Police departments have variously had increases and decreases in budgets under democrats and republicans but when a democrats reduces the budget it is decried as defending the police, even if the democrat never endorsed the idea. If a Republican does it it is managing waste and delivering value to the taxpayer. If a democrat increases the budget republicans say they defunded the police anyway :)

 

Scouse

Dennis Quaid lover
FH Subscriber
Joined
Dec 22, 2003
Messages
31,586
Good on those corrupt Trumpian republican judges eh?


Democrats and lefties going apeshit and calling the judges anti-science (without any challenge to that view in the Guardian).

The anti-science medical profession has always said it's critical that vaccination programmes should be voluntary. That's aside from having the liberty to decide what you're allowed to do with your own body.

The left is a little bit facist too, isn't it. :(
 

Raven

Happy Shopper Ray Mears
FH Subscriber
Joined
Dec 27, 2003
Messages
41,948
They are still voluntary, but if the carrot isn't working, then you need to get out the stick. With choices come effects.

Fuck anti-vaxers
 

Scouse

Dennis Quaid lover
FH Subscriber
Joined
Dec 22, 2003
Messages
31,586
They are still voluntary, but if the carrot isn't working, then you need to get out the stick. With choices come effects.

Fuck anti-vaxers
I'm not an anti-vaxxer. I'm fully vaccinated and will get my booster. I'm pretty sure the medical professionals who advocate vaccination aren't anti-vax either. And my position is in common with them - that vaccination must be voluntary.
 

Gwadien

Uneducated Northern Cretin
Joined
Jul 15, 2006
Messages
18,580
I'm not an anti-vaxxer. I'm fully vaccinated and will get my booster. I'm pretty sure the medical professionals who advocate vaccination aren't anti-vax either. And my position is in common with them - that vaccination must be voluntary.
Whats making vaccines mandatory got to do with medical experts?

Surely that's more of a legal arena?
 

Wij

I am a FH squatter
FH Subscriber
Joined
Dec 23, 2003
Messages
15,889
Vaccine mandates aren’t new. I see no beef with them in certain areas. It’s just a cultural issue now.
 

Scouse

Dennis Quaid lover
FH Subscriber
Joined
Dec 22, 2003
Messages
31,586
Whats making vaccines mandatory got to do with medical experts?
A doctors work is fundamentally based on the trust his patient has in him. Without that trust you make it much harder and sometimes impossible for them to do the job.

If you force people to get vaccinated you seriously undermine that trust.

The position of the vast majority of medical professionals and their societies and groups is a firm no to mandatory vaccination.

I fully support the experts.
 

Hawkwind

I am a FH squatter
FH Subscriber
Joined
Jul 5, 2004
Messages
7,539
Defund the Police was a slogan that bombed in 2020 but republicans won’t let it go. Police departments have variously had increases and decreases in budgets under democrats and republicans but when a democrats reduces the budget it is decried as defending the police, even if the democrat never endorsed the idea. If a Republican does it it is managing waste and delivering value to the taxpayer. If a democrat increases the budget republicans say they defunded the police anyway :)

Yeah all a GOP conspiracy. Don't read the guardian but here is a link from them with figures rather than an opinion piece from Bloomberg.


Politicians using statistics to showing what they want. Liars using halve truths to present a story and shift blame. Politics is broken and the US is the worst democracy on this planet.

I could quite literally pull up 100s of videos of Democrats calling for Police funding to be cut. Cities like Portland and Chicago are prime examples. Deny all you want but I'm not drinking that coolaid.
 

Gwadien

Uneducated Northern Cretin
Joined
Jul 15, 2006
Messages
18,580
A doctors work is fundamentally based on the trust his patient has in him. Without that trust you make it much harder and sometimes impossible for them to do the job.

If you force people to get vaccinated you seriously undermine that trust.

The position of the vast majority of medical professionals and their societies and groups is a firm no to mandatory vaccination.

I fully support the experts.
I think if the Government mandated vaccinations for people, and people were going to blame anyone for it, it would be the Government, if you were going to blame your doctor for something the Government has done, then you're a even more special than an anti-vaxxer.
 

Scouse

Dennis Quaid lover
FH Subscriber
Joined
Dec 22, 2003
Messages
31,586
I think if the Government mandated vaccinations for people, and people were going to blame anyone for it, it would be the Government, if you were going to blame your doctor for something the Government has done, then you're a even more special than an anti-vaxxer.
People come to see doctors as in league with governments - governments that they (often quite rightly) mistrust.

You might feel differently about it Gwad, but that's the reality and why medical professionals are against it.

I suggest we listen to them.
 

Gwadien

Uneducated Northern Cretin
Joined
Jul 15, 2006
Messages
18,580
People come to see doctors as in league with governments - governments that they (often quite rightly) mistrust.

You might feel differently about it Gwad, but that's the reality and why medical professionals are against it.

I suggest we listen to them.
I absolutely agree that mandatory vaccinations shouldn't be a thing, but I still don't see the relevance of medical professionals weighing in on the debate.
 

Scouse

Dennis Quaid lover
FH Subscriber
Joined
Dec 22, 2003
Messages
31,586
I still don't see the relevance of medical professionals weighing in on the debate.
Wowzers. You don't see the relevance of the concerns of front line medical staff.

Okay.
 

Users who are viewing this thread

Top Bottom