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Ormorof

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The BLMafia.


Companies in trying to get good PR shocker, what does the BLM have to do with it? Not like they walked in and said "nice place you got here, wanna keep it that way?"

Edit: and since they can probably deduct this from their P&L the cost of this to them is temporary liquidity, so real cost likely to be paid by tax payers
 

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I'll have to say I completely agree with China.
Islam is a cult, those people have been brainwashed into believing some utter bullshit, they have seen what cults do to countries so they are deculting them.

We capitulate to cults...brainwash our own people into believing people have a right to be in a cult, that its a basic human right.

Fuck that....they are a fucking menace....the single most destructive mental disease in the history of humanity used entirely by the powerful to control and coerce the masses.
Freedom should include a subtext.
Does not include the right to invent a reality which makes you better than others
 

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Companies in trying to get good PR shocker, what does the BLM have to do with it? Not like they walked in and said "nice place you got here, wanna keep it that way?"

Edit: and since they can probably deduct this from their P&L the cost of this to them is temporary liquidity, so real cost likely to be paid by tax payers
Thats exactly what they are doing
 

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Thats exactly what they are doing

really? in what way, enlighten this blind sheep, clearly i have missed the bit where protesters saying "please stop killing us, please stop arresting us for no reason" equals "give us all your money"
 

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Blm are not the protesters, they are highly organised funding and money laundering entities for political power.
Going around every single company with the slightest connection to slavery and shaking them down in exchange for no trouble.
 

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Blm are not the protesters, they are highly organised funding and money laundering entities for political power.
So, you provided a link that says none of that @Job.

Link which supports your assertion or ban, tbpfh.
 

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BTW - Torygraph article says this:
The notion of seizing control of the apportionment of capital, dismantling the frameworks of society and neutralising and undermining law enforcement are not just Marxist, but anarchic....
...and features of all revolutions.

The reason politicians and companies are bending over backwards to identify/appease (pick one) is that they know they're complicit in a corrupt system and the most disadvantaged have had enough and are threatening a peasants revolt..

This, of course, is the revolution you've always wanted - you just can't stand that it's black people leading it to demand equality rather than white supremacists getting back the land of their fantasies.

Of course, all sides of disgruntled groups have got it wrong (from blm, to white supremacists, to lgbgtq+rofflez, to feminazis) and are all too busy fighting each other rather than uniting to fix the one problem that needs dealing with first: the poor against the rich.

Don't fix that and you entrench inequality for all (well, it already is entrenched) - so improving the lives of black people just ignores the plight of the majority.

Divide and rule is working well.
 

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Blm are not the protesters, they are highly organised funding and money laundering entities for political power.
Going around every single company with the slightest connection to slavery and shaking them down in exchange for no trouble.

an opinion piece by a former head of UKIPs media? Who is quoting a go fund me by what seems like a shady setup, no websites, no organisation seemingly behind it (hey you may actually be right about it being a money laundering setup :D )

Anyhoo, we are at a point where a bunch of people ask to not be murdered by state agents, not to be harassed, and maybe, just maybe, it doesnt make sense for large groups (regardless of their skin colour) to live in poverty while politicians from wealthy families make decisions that seem only intended to fatten their own offshore accounts are somehow considered radical gangsters
 

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Yup @Ormorof The real gangsters rule the roost.

If you've enough cash you can make financial inconvenience go away by ensuring more rules work in your favour than against.

You can lose battles as long as you're on top in the ongoing generational war...
 

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Yes its an opinion piece, but the mission statements for BLM are true and its basically a loose collection of the usual suspects.

Next up will be tracing donations to Biden through the usual political money laundering processes.

Hes been struggling to get support and suddenly the money is rolling in as soon as democrats started taking the knee in congress.
 

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BTW - Torygraph article says this:

...and features of all revolutions.

The reason politicians and companies are bending over backwards to identify/appease (pick one) is that they know they're complicit in a corrupt system and the most disadvantaged have had enough and are threatening a peasants revolt..

This, of course, is the revolution you've always wanted - you just can't stand that it's black people leading it to demand equality rather than white supremacists getting back the land of their fantasies.

Of course, all sides of disgruntled groups have got it wrong (from blm, to white supremacists, to lgbgtq+rofflez, to feminazis) and are all too busy fighting each other rather than uniting to fix the one problem that needs dealing with first: the poor against the rich.

Don't fix that and you entrench inequality for all (well, it already is entrenched) - so improving the lives of black people just ignores the plight of the majority.

Divide and rule is working well.
Exactly, its white marxfarchists.
New word
Using black people again to gain power, do you think they will drop them like a turd sandwhich or put them at the head of the table in anyway except token black guy.
 

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Yes its an opinion piece, but the mission statements for BLM are true and its basically a loose collection of the usual suspects.

Next up will be tracing donations to Biden through the usual political money laundering processes.

Hes been struggling to get support and suddenly the money is rolling in as soon as democrats started taking the knee in congress.
Link to proof that BLM is a well-funded political organisation (rather than a grassroots campaigning org attracting donations because people identify with them) with money laundering activities or ban. Rather than simply restating your bullshit.

Does anyone else think this is a reasonable suggestion to solving the Job+free speech conundrum?
 

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Exactly, its white marxfarchists.
New word
Using black people again to gain power, do you think they will drop them like a turd sandwhich or put them at the head of the table in anyway except token black guy.
Link to evidence that white marxists actually control the BLM movement (I get that this would suit your racist narrative - that black people are incapable of self-organising and they need white people to do the thinking for them) or ban tbpfh...
 

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Blm uks mission statement from its 1 million gi fund me page

Black Lives Matter UK (BLMUK) is a coalition of black activists and organisers across the UK. We’ve been organising since 2016 for justice in our communities.


We’re guided by a commitment to dismantle imperialism, capitalism, white-supremacy, patriarchy and the state structures that disproportionately harm black people in Britain and around the world. We build deep relationships across the diaspora and strategise to challenge the rise of the authoritarian right-wing across the world, from Brazil to Britain.


Is that a black equality struggle?

Or a classic white marxist political movement.
I mean...honestly.


And organisers...yeah right.
 

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This would be my take as well. John Bolton is a pretty horrible individual, but is he an honest horrible individual? This is one of the men who helped sell Iraq's alleged WMDs as a pretext for the 2003 invasion, claimed Cuba had an extensive biological weapons programme and the US Intelligence community had to come out and publicly say it wasn't true. He has a long history of using intelligence briefings to push his own narrative and then trying to get the people who wrote the intelligence fired or reassigned if they call him on it. And this is my problem with this book; every word may be true but the man who wrote it can't be trusted. It also seems from reading the publisher's blurb so far, there's not a lot of corroboration of events; maybe the actual book will be different.
 

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BTW - Torygraph article says this:

...and features of all revolutions.

The reason politicians and companies are bending over backwards to identify/appease (pick one) is that they know they're complicit in a corrupt system and the most disadvantaged have had enough and are threatening a peasants revolt..

This, of course, is the revolution you've always wanted - you just can't stand that it's black people leading it to demand equality rather than white supremacists getting back the land of their fantasies.

Of course, all sides of disgruntled groups have got it wrong (from blm, to white supremacists, to lgbgtq+rofflez, to feminazis) and are all too busy fighting each other rather than uniting to fix the one problem that needs dealing with first: the poor against the rich.

Don't fix that and you entrench inequality for all (well, it already is entrenched) - so improving the lives of black people just ignores the plight of the majority.

Divide and rule is working well.

So we should stop being so divisive, and in the same post you divide people into rich and poor?

Somewhere in the distance I can hear Alanis doing scales.
 

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So we should stop being so divisive, and in the same post you divide people into rich and poor?

Somewhere in the distance I can hear Alanis doing scales.

Its genuinely the only division in human affairs that matters. @Scouse is right, America in particular has long focused on, and some would say encouraged, division by race, when in truth poor white people have consistently voted against their best interests because of racial fears that are ultimately meaningless.
 

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Poor white people outside of the coasts have been voting for the Republicans who have rewarded them with tax cuts for the wealthy for decades.
 

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Its genuinely the only division in human affairs that matters. @Scouse is right, America in particular has long focused on, and some would say encouraged, division by race, when in truth poor white people have consistently voted against their best interests because of racial fears that are ultimately meaningless.

Damn those poor white people not voting they way they are told eh?

But let's suppose for a minute you're correct, what is the solution? Every political system ever implemented by man has had a division between the haves and the have nots - in fact the more theoretically egalitarian the system (Socialism, Communism) the worse it gets.
 

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Damn those poor white people not voting they way they are told eh?

But let's suppose for a minute you're correct, what is the solution? Every political system ever implemented by man has had a division between the haves and the have nots - in fact the more theoretically egalitarian the system (Socialism, Communism) the worse it gets.

Don't be a dick.

The "solution" isn't to vote for a tiny group of people who enrich themselves at everyone else's expense while pointing in the other direction going "woo, lets stop those evil Mexicans/Syrians/insert baddie of the month here with a wall" etc. And the solution doesn't mean you automatically jump to Das Kapital; there are plenty of solutions in the middle that don't fuck over the rest of the world to keep a handful in hot and cold running Lamborghinis.
 

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Don't be a dick.

The "solution" isn't to vote for a tiny group of people who enrich themselves at everyone else's expense while pointing in the other direction going "woo, lets stop those evil Mexicans/Syrians/insert baddie of the month here with a wall" etc. And the solution doesn't mean you automatically jump to Das Kapital; there are plenty of solutions in the middle that don't fuck over the rest of the world to keep a handful in hot and cold running Lamborghinis.

Stop patronising poor people for the way they vote then.

And as I said, what are these solutions then?
 

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Stop patronising poor people for the way they vote then.

And as I said, what are these solutions then?

Is it patronising to point out people vote against their economic interests? And they do it a lot? Trump made 10 electoral promises in 2016; put aside four that were basically dog-whistle racism dressed up in National Security (The Wall, Iran deal, Bomb ISIS "and take their oil" and the Muslim travel ban) the other six were economic and trade based issues:

1. ‘Bring manufacturing (jobs) back’. Ah, a promise that makes sense for working class Americans, except, oh wait, those jobs in coal and steel were primarily replaced by automation rather than foreigners and are never going to come back; meanwhile America has created millions of jobs in renewables that had fuck all to do with Trump.

2. Impose tariffs on goods made in China and Mexico. Which raises the price of goods for Americans, not, as Trump claimed, for the Chinese or Mexicans.

3. Renegotiate or withdraw from the North American Free Trade Agreement and Trans-Pacific Partnership. Another one where yeah, maybe working class Americans could see a win, but see point 1, it isn’t going to bring jobs back and does nothing to create jobs in new American industries. And in the end all he did was rebrand NAFTA anyway; nothing substantive changed.

4. ‘Full repeal of Obamacare’ and replace it with a market-based alternative. Vast numbers of poor Americans lose medical coverage and a third of Americans didn’t even realise what they were voting to get rid of.

5. Leave Social Security as is.
Another win for Joe Palooka, except…Oh no he didn’t.

6. Cut taxes Under Trump’s tax reforms, everyone did indeed get a cut but the top 0.1 percent received more tax relief than the bottom 60 percent of taxpayers combined.

So, on the basis that people voted for things that with five minutes of research would have told them they were either not going to help, or make them actively worse off, is it unreasonable to suggest they voted against their economic interests? Nearly 2/3 of US Voters say Trump has not made them better off
 

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They vote Trump because the alternative is even more horrific.
 

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A spokeswoman said: “We have a strong multicultural network across the bank and have recently set up a taskforce led by our BAME [black, Asian and minority ethnic] colleagues which will look at what more we can do as a bank. This includes looking at making contributions to BAME groups.”
 

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