UK citizenship test

[dysfunction]

A good friend of mine had to take it. He's been taxpaying in this country for years - he'll have been paying about £15k to the government coffers every year because he's a high earner.

He's got a couple of kids now. Bought a house in Nottingham about 7 or 8 years ago.


I was ashamed that he had to do this. What kind of fucking country do we live in?

Why be ashamed? It's all part of the process of living here. Other countries do it too.
One where if you are not a citizen and want to be you have to take a test?

Oh and just because he has set down roots and has "integrated" doesn't make any difference. If they want to be a citizen they take a test. Simple.

My friend had to do it too. He quite enjoyed the whole ceremony thing they do.

 

[djpringle]

The test covers residency (indefinite leave to remain or free from immigration control) and citizenship (UK Passport) but you only need to take it once

 

[Mabs]

and i suppose "lets make it fucking stupidly difficult to cut down on handing out residency to everyone and their dog" is beyond the realms of possibility ?

 

[djpringle]

In theory yes but that line of thinking only really applies to fluent English users (ESOL level 3 and above) everyone else who can't do the test due to English ability can do the easy course route.
Anyway, the test is only 1 part of the whole residency piece, still need the financials, co-habitation and having not been naughty.

 

[Scouse]

Why be ashamed? It's all part of the process of living here. Other countries do it too.

No consideration about whether it's right or wrong in your post there Dys. And your reasoning is "others do it so it must be right".

This process is shit, wasteful, insulting and worthless.

Tell me (direct question): After seeing/taking the test as shown - what useful function does it perform?


IMO this is what it is: Some people are, rightly, scared that "foreigners" are taking their jobs away. This is never going to stop - these "foreigners" tend to be humans that are either better than the natives or more willing to do a shit job.

The government doesn't want to do anything about it - immigration is a necessary part of keeping the country going. The inequalities of wealth that are such a temptation for the poor (and the rich) are a natural by-product of capitalism.

So, on the one hand we've a bunch of retards who want something done about these "damn foreigners" and on the other a bunch of autocrats who don't.

So, the autocrats wang a stack of money at some shitty worthless "test" in order to show the retards that they're "doing something". You can tell it's a shitty worthless test simply by looking at it - as we have done here.

Embarrasing waste of money. Shameful obvious idiocy...

 

[dysfunction]

No consideration about whether it's right or wrong in your post there Dys. And your reasoning is "others do it so it must be right".

This process is shit, wasteful, insulting and worthless.

Tell me (direct question): After seeing/taking the test as shown - what useful function does it perform?


IMO this is what it is: Some people are, rightly, scared that "foreigners" are taking their jobs away. This is never going to stop - these "foreigners" tend to be humans that are either better than the natives or more willing to do a shit job.

The government doesn't want to do anything about it - immigration is a necessary part of keeping the country going. The inequalities of wealth that are such a temptation for the poor (and the rich) are a natural by-product of capitalism.

So, on the one hand we've a bunch of retards who want something done about these "damn foreigners" and on the other a bunch of autocrats who don't.

So, the autocrats wang a stack of money at some shitty worthless "test" in order to show the retards that they're "doing something". You can tell it's a shitty worthless test simply by looking at it - as we have done here.

Embarrasing waste of money. Shameful obvious idiocy...

I think the entire process of becoming a UK citizen is right.
And therefore I don't think it is a waste of money, embarrassing or idiocy.

Seeing the test out of context of the whole process gives a skewed view of the process...

How did your friend find the whole process? Did they pass? Are they now happy they are a UK Citizen?
My friend didnt mind doing any of it at all and is now extremely happy to be a UK Citizen

 

[mr.Blacky]

21. Who is the monarch not allowed to marry?

Correct answer: Anyone who is not a Protestant

? I thought the current act of settlement was that the correct answer was anyone who is Roman Catholic?

 

[DaGaffer]

21. Who is the monarch not allowed to marry?

Correct answer: Anyone who is not a Protestant

? I thought the current act of settlement was that the correct answer was anyone who is Roman Catholic?

It is. Can't even get their own stupid questions right.

 

[Mabs]

21. Who is the monarch not allowed to marry?

Correct answer: Anyone who is not a Protestant

? I thought the current act of settlement was that the correct answer was anyone who is Roman Catholic?

lol thats what i thought
went with the under 25 option or whatever is was :/

 

[Olgaline]

damnit...I failed :/

Guess I'll have to stick to being Danglish

 

[Scouse]

How did your friend find the whole process? Did they pass? Are they now happy they are a UK Citizen?
My friend didnt mind doing any of it at all and is now extremely happy to be a UK Citizen

Of course he passed - he's not a bleeding retard - passing was a formality and that in itself says a lot.

He found it a pathetic waste of time which taught him nothing useful at all. He also had to take a day off work - therefore losing a day's pay - to boot.


You failed to answer my direct question, which I'll ask again:

After seeing/taking the test as shown - what useful function does it perform?



(I'd also add what useful function can it perform when it's full of assinine questions and gives you no additional skills)

 

[dysfunction]

Of course he passed - he's not a bleeding retard - passing was a formality and that in itself says a lot.

He found it a pathetic waste of time which taught him nothing useful at all. He also had to take a day off work - therefore losing a day's pay - to boot.

You failed to answer my direct question, which I'll ask again:

After seeing/taking the test as shown - what useful function does it perform?

He didn't have to take the test. It is optional. He could still live and work here but just not be a full citizen. Like I said before it's his choice to do this. You are not forced to so complaining that you have lost a days wages is just rubbish.

I'd say it separates the wheat from the chaff as well as putting some people off from becoming a UK Citizen because they can't be bothered to jump through all the hoops.

Yes some of the questions may seem odd. I'm not disputing that.

The test is not to learn new skills! It's not there to give you an extra advantage to your working life! Some people may learn things. All depends on how long they have lived here for, if English is their first language, how different their culture is to the UK....

You think the whole process is crap. I don't. End of.

 

[Tuthmes]

10 out of a possible 24

Not bad.

 

[old.Tohtori]

Took it again today(without reading any of the correct answers etc), went up to 12/24.

This test is absolutely accurate

 

[Scouse]

He didn't have to take the test. It is optional. He could still live and work here but just not be a full citizen. Like I said before it's his choice to do this. You are not forced to so complaining that you have lost a days wages is just rubbish.

He had to take it or he would have had to leave the country. End of.

I'd say it separates the wheat from the chaff as well as putting some people off from becoming a UK Citizen because they can't be bothered to jump through all the hoops.

To separate wheat from chaff you need a challenge. This test is not a challenge.

Also - why make people jump through pointless hoops? Make them jump through hoops that are worth it, if you must - but don't insist they learn a load of meaningless wank that most of the population of Britain doesn't know anyway.

Hoops? Process? I'm not necessarily against that. But meaningless drivel?

You're arguing for beauracracy for beauracracy's sake...

 

[dysfunction]

He had to take it or he would have had to leave the country. End of.



To separate wheat from chaff you need a challenge. This test is not a challenge.

Also - why make people jump through pointless hoops? Make them jump through hoops that are worth it, if you must - but don't insist they learn a load of meaningless wank that most of the population of Britain doesn't know anyway.

Hoops? Process? I'm not necessarily against that. But meaningless drivel?

You're arguing for beauracracy for beauracracy's sake...

ok.

 

[Mabs]

we dont need to know it , cos we were "lucky" enough to be born here.
if you want to live here, then show you are making an effort to integrate yourself into the country you have chosen by doing a bit of research, is that so hard ?
most of this stuff is pointless, but it shows you have bothered to try. If you dont want to do, feck off and live in zimbabwe or somewhere

 

[old.Tohtori]

we dont need to know it , cos we were "lucky" enough to be born here.
if you want to live here, then show you are making an effort to integrate yourself into the country you have chosen by doing a bit of research, is that so hard ?
most of this stuff is pointless, but it shows you have bothered to try. If you dont want to do, feck off and live in zimbabwe or somewhere

Wouldn't going to one of your pubs, drinking (insert beer depending on region here), rabbling about (insert local footie team here) and shagging one of your female units suffice as cultural integration?

 

[Job]

We don't hate foriegners, it's just Britain seems kinda full as it is, every freakin road is grid locked, people in London seem to live about 10 to a room and they're talking about building on the countryside cos there's not enough houses.
Iv'e driven right across Vikingland all the way to North Cape (very nice, saw the sunset)
and you lot have like a lake each and you're moaning as much as us maybe a bit more because dark skin sticks out a lot more in whiteyland.

 

[Scouse]

ok.

Didn't know you were religious dys! That's what christians do when faced with an argument based on reason - refuse to debate so their beliefs can't be shaken. You believe these are a good thing but aren't willing to discuss their obvious weaknesses as it would undermine your faith in your preconceptions.

Settles the argument in my favour IMO.

 

[Scouse]

Wouldn't going to one of your pubs, drinking (insert beer depending on region here), rabbling about (insert local footie team here) and shagging one of your female units suffice as cultural integration?

Lulz

 

[dysfunction]

Didn't know you were religious dys! That's what christians do when faced with an argument based on reason - refuse to debate so their beliefs can't be shaken. You believe these are a good thing but aren't willing to discuss their obvious weaknesses as it would undermine your faith in your preconceptions.

Settles the argument in my favour IMO.

I just can't be bothered anymore...

 

[Scouse]

I just can't be bothered anymore...

That's just what Turamber said before he put me on ignore

 

[old.Tohtori]

That's just what Turamber said before he put me on ignore

Nooo...you should've gone with "that's what she said"

Though same thing i guess.

 

[Jeros]

How ironic, thousands bustling to get in, and thousands of UK citizens by birth emigrating AWAY.

 

[old.Tohtori]

How ironic, thousands bustling to get in, and thousands of UK citizens by birth emigrating AWAY.

So tempted to make a joke on the color of your text.

Damn coleminers ruining the UK.

 

[Jeros]

So tempted to make a joke on the color of your text.

Damn coleminers ruining the UK.

Maybe if we still had some sort of industry there would be sufficent jobs for people not to look elseware.

 

[throdgrain]

Didn't know you were religious dys! That's what christians do when faced with an argument based on reason - refuse to debate so their beliefs can't be shaken. You believe these are a good thing but aren't willing to discuss their obvious weaknesses as it would undermine your faith in your preconceptions.

Settles the argument in my favour IMO.

Stop going on you MASSIVE woman!!!

 

[DaGaffer]

How ironic, thousands bustling to get in, and thousands of UK citizens by birth emigrating AWAY.

Hardly ironic, that process has been going on for a LONG time.

 

[Scouse]

Stop going on you MASSIVE woman!!!

Hey, I'm out of work at the mo so if I wanna sit around one day being pedantic* I bloody well will






*if pedantism means wanting to debate an issue properly so an end can be reached