Took me 2 years to realize that...

[Hedek]

...Mythic made it so that 80% of the classes are not wanted in today's RvR and they're supposed to have had 64 patches to balance classes...

If you are any of the following, you are allowed to have fun : a buffbotted stealther, a determination tank, a primary healer, a primary speed provider, an end (fatigue) bot, a primary mezzer.

If you are any of the following you may be allowed to have fun : PBT provider, PBAOE caster.

If you don't fit in any of the above description you may as well reroll or /quit DAoC.

Am I the only to have taken so much time to realize that ? Please people, cheer me up and tell me i'm not alone

Hedek,
RR5 Friar (whiner) Excalibur
RR7 Healer (having fun) Ys
RR4 Thane (used-to-be-a-whiner, now retired) Ys
RR5 Zerk (used-to-have-fun, now retired) Ys
RR3 Bonedancer (farming gold) Ys
RR5 Chanter (having fun, will-whine-when-enemies-on-my-server-learn-how-to-play-against-pbaoe-groups) Broceliande

 

[Lessurl]

Took me 2 years to realise that if i stood up i could move about faster.

 

[Ekydus]

It took me 2 years to find out a bastard toon in leather out damages someone in plate.

Holding aggro = NOT FUN.

 

[Coim-]

Originally posted by Ekydus
It took me 2 years to find out a bastard toon in leather out damages someone in plate.

Holding aggro = NOT FUN.

j00 sp33k th3 tr00th!

 

[katzzzz]

Hmm

Hmm i dont think so. I have L50 armsman, scout and friar, if i go with my armsman in any random group i think that the group is much more gimped, than with my uber friar, who many bonuses for group.

If im GL i dont inviting only scout nor infil, cos many of them trying play solo and dont dieing with group. Im trying to have balanced group.

 

[azshara2]

i never get grps, just ask tzee ;x

 

[arrakeen]

Originally posted by Hedek
...Mythic made it so that 80% of the classes are not wanted in today's RvR and they're supposed to have had 64 patches to balance classes...

If you are any of the following, you are allowed to have fun : a buffbotted stealther, a determination tank, a primary healer, a primary speed provider, an end (fatigue) bot, a primary mezzer.

If you are any of the following you may be allowed to have fun : PBT provider, PBAOE caster.

If you don't fit in any of the above description you may as well reroll or /quit DAoC.

Am I the only to have taken so much time to realize that ? Please people, cheer me up and tell me i'm not alone

Hedek,
RR5 Friar (whiner) Excalibur
RR7 Healer (having fun) Ys
RR4 Thane (used-to-be-a-whiner, now retired) Ys
RR5 Zerk (used-to-have-fun, now retired) Ys
RR3 Bonedancer (farming gold) Ys
RR5 Chanter (having fun, will-whine-when-enemies-on-my-server-learn-how-to-play-against-pbaoe-groups) Broceliande

Hmm, im not a Pbaoe caster and neither do i have Pbt, but i do have fun, mabey im not welcome in the perfect tanks groups but who cares.. ( Ill admit its a bit annoying :O

You can easily have fun anyway allso in High end RvR

 

[tildson]

2years ago, Thane was a very nice class.

2years ago, buffbots were very uncommon

2years ago, determination werent ingame

2years ago, DD-casters were overpowered

---------------

But yes, i agree with you that is it this today.

 

[old.Nol]

friar has been my favorite class so far, I have enjoyed playing it more then any other class

 

[Flimgoblin]

Originally posted by Hedek
If you don't fit in any of the above description you may as well reroll or /quit DAoC.

or wait two months for your class to slightly edge out something else and become fotm

 

[Belomar]

Well. I've never had so much fun with my Cabalist as I do now, so I can't say I agree. I do, however, see where you are coming from, but your woes only apply to the l33t tank groups which are currently perceived to be "uber" in this game. You can have lots of fun in other groups still.

 

[Jiggs]

runemasters
wizards
cabalists
necromancers
mentalists
friars
rangers
scouts
hunters
theurgists
reavers
thanes
bonedancers
beserkers
warriors
animist
valewalker
spiritmasters
champions

19 out of 36 NON-ASSASIN( ) classes are not desired for the 'perfect' rvr groups of their realms.

ofc u can still just forget it and have fun, but i think most ppl find the idea of having 'fun' doesnt included being killed repeatedly without even being able to compete.

 

[phule_gubben]

JIGGS

Did u leave out the SB's on purpose or did you just forgot?

or maybe u count stealthergroups as uber? U didn't mention any assassin at all.

:|

 

[Freppe^^]

Originally posted by phule_gubben
JIGGS

Did u leave out the SB's on purpose or did you just forgot?

NONE FUCKIN CARES BOUT SBS, UVE HAD UR TIME, GO FUCK A DUCK PLSS

 

[Jiggs]

erm wtf have assasin got to do with this game?

 

[Belomar]

Originally posted by Jiggs
ofc u can still just forget it and have fun, but i think most ppl find the idea of having 'fun' doesnt included being killed repeatedly without even being able to compete.

Well, that's where you're wrong. Yes, a determination-based melee group is currently the most effective combination of classes there is, but you can still do well with a little luck and good players. Also, you are assuming you always move as a single FG -- personally, I see no reason to try to compete on even terms (number-wise, that is) against the optimized, high-RR groups of enemy realms if you are have a lot of the classes labelled as "unviable" in your group(s).

There will always be idiots like Tilda who can't accept this view (I can't count all the times she has been yelling abuse to us or our allies). However, like you said, no one likes to die repeatedly, so you do what you can to survive.

EDIT: Just last night, I was in a 3-man group consisting of me (Spirit Cabalist), another Spirit Cab (Sculptor), and a Sorcerer (Sollers). We sure had fun taking on twice our numbers (or more), and coming out victorious in many cases.

 

[phule_gubben]

Originally posted by Freppe^^
NONE FUCKIN CARES BOUT SBS, UVE HAD UR TIME, GO FUCK A DUCK PLSS

mature dude. but i guess there will always be some who ain't.

 

[Jiggs]

would be nice if we didnt have to zerg to win belomar..

 

[phule_gubben]

Originally posted by Jiggs
erm wtf have assasin got to do with this game?

they are a part of the game just as all other classes ofc.

 

[Belomar]

Originally posted by Jiggs
would be nice if we didnt have to zerg to win belomar..

But this is an issue that's not specific to Albion. Few Mid or Hib groups consisting mainly of thanes or mentalists will have a chance against your BF tank groups. So yes, it's sad that the unviable classes might have to "zerg" to win, but my point is that you can still have fun.

Oh, and my 3-man group last night was hardly a zerg, btw.

 

[Freppe^^]

Originally posted by phule_gubben
mature dude. but i guess there will always be some who ain't.

should i /cry or smth? seriously, i dont give a shit what u say. but a fact is, sb's has been overpowered to long, n should not ever, at least not for a long time, be brought back to their normal overopwered standard. they should be removed from game imo, aswell as savages. now fo k.

 

[Freppe^^]

Originally posted by phule_gubben
they are a part of the game just as all other classes ofc.

Yes they are, so are thanes, all casters tbh n rest of the gimps. but HAVE THEY GOT ANYTHING THAT COULD DO EM BETTER? - NO.
Why not focus on that first instead of whining bout some shit assasins who the mostly dont give a fuck bout.

 

[Aussie-]

only took me 5mins to realise i rock so much xD

 

[Pin]

2 years ago DAoC was a completely different game to now.
1 year ago DAoC was a completely different game to now.
6 months ago DAoC was still a very different game to now.

In 6 months time DAoC will have changed again and many things that apply now will not apply down the road.

Your current char is a Friar. Great 1v1, great in average groups, doesn't fit in 'perfect' groups. Same as my Reaver, but I have masses of fun with it.

There will always be some classes which are better than others, and if all you want is to play in 'perfect' RvR groups then roll one of those classes. Then roll another in a few months time when things change, and again and again (or just play a primary healer or speed class and stick with it).

 

[saltymcpepper]

it took me 2 years to realise my ns could triple hit

 

[Pin]

Originally posted by saltymcpepper
it took me 2 years to realise my ns could triple hit

you haven't played your ns for 2 years

 

[chrstffr]

Originally posted by phule_gubben
mature dude. but i guess there will always be some who ain't.

I even got a "stfu freppe" bind on irc :x

 

[Danya]

Originally posted by Jiggs
would be nice if we didnt have to zerg to win belomar..

Hush jiggs, you'll ruins Belomar's justification of running 4 fg and steamrolling 1 fg. Which tbh puts him on the same level as people who run perfect groups and steamroll 1fg newbs - in both cases one side has almost no chance of victory. Belomar just thinks it's ok to do it with numbers, but not ok to do it by maxing your character's potential.

 

[Belomar]

Originally posted by Danya
Hush jiggs, you'll ruins Belomar's justification of running 4 fg and steamrolling 1 fg. Which tbh puts him on the same level as people who run perfect groups and steamroll 1fg newbs - in both cases one side has almost no chance of victory. Belomar just thinks it's ok to do it with numbers, but not ok to do it by maxing your character's potential.

Ahh yes. So tell me, when did this happen? And since it obviously inflicted serious mental trauma on you, did you seek professional help? My guild never runs in those numbers except for our weekly keep takes, and the only time we took such a zerg to Emain was when we took Dun Bolg and waited in vain for the Hibs to show up and try to retake it.

Also, you are aware that Hibs for the last months have justified their zerging with the exact same excuse, i.e. that it is the only way to counter savage groups? No? perhaps you should either play Excalibur for a while, or stick to your Prydwen merc and say nothing in the matter at all?

And hmm, "maximizing your character's potential"; in the context of this thread, I take that to mean "rolling a character with maximum potential", right? My guild is in no way a pure RvR guild, we don't force our players to reroll to the newest FotM to optimize our groups, nor do we have a lot of players with the time to do that. Instead, we strive to build our groups to be balanced, but the primary aim is to RvR with our friends and have fun.

So tell me, with all this said and done, how is our SS guild groups different from the 2 FGs of high-RR LA that were making Emain insecure for all of yesterday evening?

Wow, that's a lot of questions.

 

[Alpha Male]

Originally posted by Aussie-
only took me 5mins to realise i rock so much xD

lol