TOA and L33t!sts killed DAOC

[Z^^]

Albion "good FG" random grps are rly low atm... fc not been doing grps lately and same wiht most guilds BF are coming back atm tho...

 

[Pin]

Im one of those clerics zoy is talking about. Why I dont make a grp all comes down to one thing. A thing zoy is also usually looking for is MIND sorc. The other day, at saturday I think, we looked for a mind sorc for 5-6 hrs before we actually logged. That was with zoy/outs grp. Thats the main problem for alb.

Always have 2-3 ToA'd Mind sorcs in my group...

But we tend to not want to group with the GoL randoms

 

[Asha]

damn you mythic
damn you Z (you know it's all your fault!)

 

[Z^^]

damn you mythic
damn you Z (you know it's all your fault!)

Actually Good played same players(or almost) everyday, where like LA.. Lets blame Llaw arian imo!

 

[Raven]

I use 5 artifacts in my temp all up to the level i need them to be (not all are worth getting 10 on) though i actually have about 10 activated. i have a pretty much "perfect" SC temp, resists capped, +20 str 15 dex +180 hits cap, shape shift, high +damage/spd what not, if i play its usually for 5 hour or so sessions at weekends a little longer, i dont however consider myself to be a power gamer, i actually find most of the so called "power gamers" to boring pricks, they may think they are "leet" but infact everyone thinks they are dicks, I imagine they only tolorate each other because thats the only way they can make RP's, the only way they can prove to themselves and thier ilk that they aren't totaly retarded.

I dont need daoc (addiction) but i still find a great deal of it to be fun, the moment it stops being fun i will probably quit. Some people however dont know anything else, log on at lunch time, log off at 3 am day in day out, i pitty them more than anything.

 

[Z^^]

I use 5 artifacts in my temp all up to the level i need them to be (not all are worth getting 10 on) though i actually have about 10 activated. i have a pretty much "perfect" SC temp, resists capped, +20 str 15 dex +180 hits cap, shape shift, high +damage/spd what not, if i play its usually for 5 hour or so sessions at weekends longer, i dont however consider myself to be a power gamer, i actually find most of the so called power gamers to boring pricks, they may think they are "leet" but infact everyone thinks they are dicks, i imagine they only tolorate each other is because thats the only way they can make RP's, the only way they can prove to themselves and thier ilk that they arent totaly retarded.

I dont need daoc (addiction) but i still find a great deal of it to be fun, the moment it stops being fun i will probably quit. Some people however dont know anything else, log on at lunch time, log off at 3 am day in day out, i pitty them more than anything.

what does this have to do with anything?

 

[-Freezingwiz-]

2) Alb exca is very selfish, on exception from some no one will jsut go port to ToA and help a guy out with a artifact. Because he wont get any better on it himself. It's true, dont go denie this with some fancy words!

lies tbh..... some ppl in HB includeing my self have helped with 150-200 artys and prolly more, I'm done with ToA my self (except 1 Silvehorn but it is because I cba to camp it prolly ) anyways, all ppl aren't the same
and yes I still help guildies, friends etc if they need help with artys

 

[Clipse]

yer, Ive had loads of help on arts from HB

 

[Raven]

what does this have to do with anything?

Its my opinion that i still enjoy the game after toa, its my opinion that "leetists" havent ruined the game, all they do is provide amusement for everyone else. try reading the whole thread where people describe how they play/feel about the game instead of the 1st and last post, you may be able to keep up then.

 

[Asha]

Actually Good played same players(or almost) everyday, where like LA.. Lets blame Llaw arian imo!

blaming you is more fun

 

[vintervargen]

Wow, you have cameras in the homes of every Alb all of a sudden!

It's great when someone who really doesn't know what they're talking about just starts to lean on prejudice, isn't it?

right. then i guess its more about IQ of the players, then TOA equipment dont you think? its not that hard for a theurgist to randomly throw away some pets on the enemy.

unless ofc, you are watching TV in the next room.

 

[Diar]

I think I'm a casual player, but mostly am online the powergamer type...still, I have 4 arti's activated, only 3 50's, and no char above rr3l5..

that's only cuz the guild I was in (rejoining again soon yay) had set RvR grps and cuz I couldn't be arsed waiting hours at DL for a RvR grp they didn't pick me for regular GG....oh well tough luck, I only the char for GG anyways, /delete Y-E-S, done, then I have the other 2 50's, 1 is a NS, wich has BoS on lvl8, malice on lvl0, and TD on lvl0, teh s00k in RvR, I can only kill something when grped or if it's just a caster..but if I grp there's all the QQ here about stealth zergs etc, and my last 50 is a anim, I can't RvR with it cuz no1 will invite me in their grps since they only want druids/chanters/1 bard/grapplespammer+BG...and I cba with MLs just because I don't have enough time for them...I still need to lvl my malice, TD, and BoS, and ofc my SoG on my anim (wich is a total bitch) and then I still have to lvl my ranger for NF to be able to get any kind of RPs....oh well, guess it'll soon be time to do /renew account? N-O--W-A-Y..and running NF will be a prob anyways, they said if you can run 2 ToA accounts you can run NF....hell, I can't even run 1 ToA w/o a crapload of lag

 

[Flimgoblin]

right. then i guess its more about IQ of the players, then TOA equipment dont you think? its not that hard for a theurgist to randomly throw away some pets on the enemy.

unless ofc, you are watching TV in the next room.

it's harder when they cast in 3-4s instead of 2, it's harder when you don't have a massive mana pool... it's harder when you don't have MoC (ok so that's RR oriented ) or mezz-turn or spell-turn.

 

[Flimgoblin]

they said if you can run 2 ToA accounts you can run NF....hell, I can't even run 1 ToA w/o a crapload of lag

think it was actually: if you can run 2 toa accounts you can run 2 in NF

 

[Coldbeard]

no chance for the more casual like players , stand yelling "warrior lfg" at mtk for 30 min and when i finally get a grp it gets wiped by one of the leet guilds and their gank squad after 5 min , then another 30-60 min of yelling lfg cuz grp disbanded. No fun :/

( yes QQ )

 

[flex]

Rnp, vacation or smth ? Draylor said he'd be gone for a while and havent

i'll be back mid september after my exams @ uni.

try to give a respec stone to tazz & see if he's willing to leave the easymode body spec

 

[vintervargen]

get a guild

make an own group

go odins

 

[Flimgoblin]

get a guild

make an own group

go odins

mushroom soup!

though odins is a lot less l33t-demanding than the other zones it still has its fair share of RR90 chanters in crocmode.

HW was until very recently completely dead but appears to be picking up.

 

[Harle]

it's harder when you don't have a massive mana pool...

You'd think the size of your mana-pool wont matter, since the pets cost a fixed percentage of your mana-pool. Actually, aving a smaller mana-pool will make them cost less.

 

[Gordonax]

My point is it's nothing to do with those artifacts - a strong, regular guild-group would kick the shit out of a group of random casual gamers whatever.

Yeah, but the difference, Pin, is that post-ToA they can kick the shit out of 2-3fg and not lose a single person. That's not good for the game.

 

[Asty]

Its not the "1337" ppl who have killed rvr.. imo its TOA. Nowadays the gap between random groups and powergamer groups is too big. Random groups dont stand a chance unless they bring huge zerg which will result that noone is really having fun in emain. Those who arent in guilds that do regularly ggs have only the option to be in the random groups or solo.. thats why many have gone inactive from rvr and thus there wont be many new rvr guilds.

Have you also noticed that there isnt even many rvr guild groups going on anymore? In mid BC being pretty much the only one doing ggs everyday, NP quite often too. There isnt many good groups in hib/alb either.

Rvr is slowly dying, and when NF comes it can only be totally shit.

 

[Flimgoblin]

You'd think the size of your mana-pool wont matter, since the pets cost a fixed percentage of your mana-pool. Actually, aving a smaller mana-pool will make them cost less.

%age costs (other than resses) are a %age of an "assumed amount" for your level - they're actually fixed cost per mana - increasing your +%power will let you fire a lot more pets off.

 

[Flimgoblin]

Rvr is slowly dying, and when NF comes it can only be totally shit.

for the l33ts maybe - by the looks of it there's a lot lot more people in RvR post NF....

 

[Gordonax]

get a guild

make an own group

go odins

You missed step 4:

Die to the RR6-7, ML10 gank groups that roam there as well. You'll live longer than emain, but you'll get very few realm points, which means you'll get very few RRs, which means you'll still not be able to compete.

What you mean is:

1. Get a guild.
2. Get 5-6 artifacts
3. Get High ML. Not necessarily ML10, but high enough to get the better abilities.
4. Form regular guild group. Practice practice practice so you play together.
5. Get to RR6+
7. Realise it's now 2007, because you only actually play 3-4 hours per night, 3 nights per week, and doing all that has taken you until then.

By which time, of course, all the gank groups have had two other expansions to take advantage of.

You get the point, I hope?

 

[Asha]

no no no no...

you forgot the first step

1) BUY a high RR account (TOA'ed now a days too)

 

[vintervargen]

You missed step 4:

Die to the RR6-7, ML10 gank groups that roam there as well. You'll live longer than emain, but you'll get very few realm points, which means you'll get very few RRs, which means you'll still not be able to compete.

What you mean is:

1. Get a guild.
2. Get 5-6 artifacts
3. Get High ML. Not necessarily ML10, but high enough to get the better abilities.
4. Form regular guild group. Practice practice practice so you play together.
5. Get to RR6+
7. Realise it's now 2007, because you only actually play 3-4 hours per night, 3 nights per week, and doing all that has taken you until then.

By which time, of course, all the gank groups have had two other expansions to take advantage of.

You get the point, I hope?

stop play the motherfucking game already.

 

[gravedigger]

man so much whine

can this post be moved 2 alb section this isnt rvr related imo

we all had 2 go to same toa crap etc.... learn 2 live with it or play tetris jezus

 

[Jaapi]

stop play the motherfucking game already.

Sucks that Ebay doesn't provide witty comebacks, doesn't it.

 

[Flimgoblin]

man so much whine

can this post be moved 2 alb section this isnt rvr related imo

we all had 2 go to same toa crap etc.... learn 2 live with it or play tetris jezus

1. it's not an alb issue (I'm sure the non-leet mids have the same problems if they hit a hib gank group and same for the hibs meeting mid gank groups...)

2. it's about RvR.

Incidentally I don't think TOA killed daoc - I think it gave us a lot more to do in PvE, some interesting new toys for RvR (which was getting down to the boring old same instawin buttons before - now some of you have new ones ) just it made emain shite for the non-power/power gamer not that it was great before...

I had a blast in HW last night we had a shite setup, only a few artifacts and most of us are low ML - still was fun....

just if you meet a fully taoed out RR10 ML10 artifact-laden group it's not much fun at all

 

[vintervargen]

Sucks that Ebay doesn't provide witty comebacks, doesn't it.

retard.

if you cant get a guild, nor 5-6 artifacts, nor high ML, nor rr6, this game isnt for you.