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Leading on from this, thought would be a good discussion
problem being
whats the alternative?
thatcher removed modern apprentaships (the silly whore fcuked this country up more than any other leader GB has),
before the smart people went to university, the rest went into modern apprentaships and were skilled up that way.
Now everyone is expected to go university by the government, as a result the government cant afford to pay the way for the influx of people going to higher education. So they offer low interest loans for students which they can pay back when they get jobs, and now top-up fee's.
My brother doing Aerospace Engineering will come out of Uni with 20k+ debts i shudder to think what doctors and such are leaving with.
People who genuinly arent acedemically minded now are a unskilled workforce from lack of training, so go into unskilled labour, problem being there is very little unskilled labouring available in the UK as a developed country (and most its rescources already been excavated). So they go on the dole, guess whos paying for their doing nothing , not oout of laziness but simply because they dont have the skills/training to get into real jobs (not saying all but there are some people in that boat).
Bring back apprentaships!
On a personal note i failed my a-levels 3x E grades Chemistry, Maths, Psychology, but was damn lucky and got into a apprentaship scheme run by UCL (right place right time), was trained up and now tweak software to work on the UCL computer network. Where theres a will there's a way provided your willing to work for it.
If i was to have followed the University/College path which i would have had to do who knows where i would be, it sure as hell would'nt be as good as where i am now
Discuss
Marc said:Unless you know for sure you are a brainy twat and you wanna be a doctor or lawyer I dont see the point at all in going to uni. Employers these days arent arsed at all about if you have a degree or not, i know for sure most employers in my profession arent. If i was leaving school now id become a scaffolder. The money you can make is fcking obscene and there is always work around.
problem being
whats the alternative?
thatcher removed modern apprentaships (the silly whore fcuked this country up more than any other leader GB has),
before the smart people went to university, the rest went into modern apprentaships and were skilled up that way.
Now everyone is expected to go university by the government, as a result the government cant afford to pay the way for the influx of people going to higher education. So they offer low interest loans for students which they can pay back when they get jobs, and now top-up fee's.
My brother doing Aerospace Engineering will come out of Uni with 20k+ debts i shudder to think what doctors and such are leaving with.
People who genuinly arent acedemically minded now are a unskilled workforce from lack of training, so go into unskilled labour, problem being there is very little unskilled labouring available in the UK as a developed country (and most its rescources already been excavated). So they go on the dole, guess whos paying for their doing nothing , not oout of laziness but simply because they dont have the skills/training to get into real jobs (not saying all but there are some people in that boat).
Bring back apprentaships!
On a personal note i failed my a-levels 3x E grades Chemistry, Maths, Psychology, but was damn lucky and got into a apprentaship scheme run by UCL (right place right time), was trained up and now tweak software to work on the UCL computer network. Where theres a will there's a way provided your willing to work for it.
If i was to have followed the University/College path which i would have had to do who knows where i would be, it sure as hell would'nt be as good as where i am now
Discuss